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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: Team Yandex vs Natus Vincere - Game 4 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Natus Vincereof Team Yandex, Natus Vincere
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$198,919
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$228,994

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $198,919 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 146 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf9b5…09eebacked Natus Vincere54c46,693$25,059 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21,634.1855157%314 W · 237 L+17.4wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb555…0c4bbacked Natus Vincere52c9,343$4,841 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,501.710342.7%44 W · 59 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x334e…26f1backed Team Yandex51c7,963$4,032 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,031.87540%2 W · 3 L-0.9wins-0.17per pick57cpaid-33.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8523…1c9fbacked Team Yandex39c7,910$3,077 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,076.5110236.3%37 W · 65 L-10.7wins-0.10per pick47cpaid-36.7%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x2590…e38ebacked Team Yandex3c6,800$174 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$173.891414.3%2 W · 12 L+0.9wins+0.06per pick8cpaid-13.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Natus Vincere50c5,711$2,868 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,842.591,57743.9%692 W · 885 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5c28…59ffbacked Team Yandex1c3,500$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4020%0 W · 2 L0.0wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdcfe…44b5backed Team Yandex54c3,475$1,887 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,886.6132854.9%180 W · 148 L+11.8wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+2.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x500f…94bfbacked Team Yandex60c3,359$2,003 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,002.8213558.5%79 W · 56 L+4.3wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+4.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd161…4cc1backed Team Yandex35c3,260$1,133 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,133.2680443.9%353 W · 451 L-1.7wins0.00per pick44cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0979…fc8abacked Team Yandex1c3,189$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.391827.8%5 W · 13 L+1.6wins+0.09per pick19cpaid+63.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x0dcf…c556backed Team Yandex47c3,096$1,455 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,455.1233746.3%156 W · 181 L-4.2wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-4.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x66fb…9f72backed Team Yandex57c2,654$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50054556.5%308 W · 237 L+10.4wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x154d…a748backed Team Yandex1c2,500$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3020%0 W · 2 L0.0wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcf68…6b13backed Team Yandex1c2,300$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2620%0 W · 2 L-0.1wins-0.03per pick3cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x491d…f42bbacked Team Yandex65c2,271$1,486 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,486.2739660.1%238 W · 158 L+8.5wins+0.02per pick58cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2765…7ee4backed Natus Vincere40c2,182$880 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,301.9955751.7%288 W · 269 L+16.7wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x033e…1bb9backed Team Yandex54c1,991$1,065 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,065.4356848.8%277 W · 291 L-1.1wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xda12…38d6backed Team Yandex62c1,700$1,058 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,057.995060%30 W · 20 L+0.9wins+0.02per pick58cpaid0%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2586…f071backed Natus Vincere60c1,605$958 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$646.8134468.9%237 W · 107 L+26.3wins+0.08per pick61cpaid+2.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xcb7f…c092backed Team Yandex2c1,600$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$381020%2 W · 8 L+0.6wins+0.06per pick14cpaid+21.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1768…e91fbacked Team Yandex71c1,476$1,051 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,050.551060%6 W · 4 L-1.2wins-0.12per pick72cpaid-18.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xaacf…5f84backed Natus Vincere73c1,302$950 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$351.7459250.5%299 W · 293 L-20.7wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-10%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xcc81…5df2backed Team Yandex62c1,300$812 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8129557.9%55 W · 40 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf828…00a5backed Natus Vincere20c1,283$257 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,025.265042%21 W · 29 L-1.7wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-17.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbdda…2408backed Team Yandex1c1,200$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1460%0 W · 6 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6fbb…39dabacked Team Yandex68c1,193$812 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$811.564346.5%20 W · 23 L+1.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+1.9%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x74ef…1ac6backed Team Yandex42c1,190$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50047660.7%289 W · 187 L-0.2wins0.00per pick61cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb328…4df1backed Team Yandex56c1,075$598 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$598.021450%7 W · 7 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid-7.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6f3e…50debacked Team Yandex42c1,068$449 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$448.651735.3%6 W · 11 L-1.9wins-0.11per pick46cpaid-24.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf6f9…bff5backed Natus Vincere44c1,064$466 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$598.4720949.3%103 W · 106 L+8.4wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-4.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1bcb…b05abacked Team Yandex40c1,047$416 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$416.4338049.2%187 W · 193 L+13.1wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+168.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x82da…da33backed Team Yandex42c952.38$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40010743%46 W · 61 L-6.9wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-16.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xa257…ea6ebacked Natus Vincere34c866.97$297 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$570.241361.5%8 W · 5 L+2.4wins+0.18per pick43cpaid+31.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xacf6…41fcbacked Team Yandex35c862.14$302 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$302.360646.9%284 W · 322 L+10.5wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+4.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb475…2ed2backed Natus Vincere26c842.58$218 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$625.061050%5 W · 5 L+2.2wins+0.22per pick28cpaid+68.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x60b4…6313backed Natus Vincere69c786.96$543 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$243.9616160.2%97 W · 64 L-8.5wins-0.05per pick66cpaid-7.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf243…5fb4backed Natus Vincere43c697.29$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$396.874949%24 W · 25 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-16.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x4605…5299backed Natus Vincere68c643.95$438 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$206.298833%29 W · 59 L-4.8wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-25.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6d96…d524backed Team Yandex47c638.89$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30026957.6%155 W · 114 L+3.7wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x00a1…5062backed Natus Vincere58c609.09$356 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$252.9621346.5%99 W · 114 L-8.1wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-10.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xcf0a…320abacked Natus Vincere37c607.4$226 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$381.4392056.4%519 W · 401 L+78.3wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+3.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xca1f…ed28backed Team Yandex46c579.99$266 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$265.660552.6%318 W · 287 L+15.0wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-0.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2133…7903backed Natus Vincere49c561$275 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$286.1134443.9%151 W · 193 L-0.5wins0.00per pick44cpaid-10.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Natus Vincere44c475.19$210 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$265.361,27245%572 W · 700 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-17.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7032…0a8bbacked Natus Vincere53c434.99$228 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$206.5255251.6%285 W · 267 L+10.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6fd3…d057backed Team Yandex35c424.84$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1507642.1%32 W · 44 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-16.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed Natus Vincere48c419.95$201 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$218.9596557.4%554 W · 411 L+49.5wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+7.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x2ccc…6b82backed Team Yandex43c407.23$176 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$176.023941%16 W · 23 L-5.7wins-0.15per pick56cpaid-34.4%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x081e…f76ebacked Team Yandex67c364.55$244 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$244.2533850.9%172 W · 166 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa474…32cbbacked Natus Vincere42c357.14$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$207.1453844.4%239 W · 299 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8a38…fee0backed Team Yandex30c333.33$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10060349.9%301 W · 302 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x3c67…e40ebacked Team Yandex32c311.76$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1006434.4%22 W · 42 L-3.1wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-25.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x8052…1124backed Team Yandex54c300$162 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16217146.8%80 W · 91 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xce1f…7392backed Team Yandex30c300$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9067853.5%363 W · 315 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x59e8…b8f7backed Team Yandex77c294.11$226 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2263461.8%21 W · 13 L-2.8wins-0.08per pick70cpaid-14.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe375…dadfbacked Natus Vincere52c288.68$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$138.6812948.1%62 W · 67 L-9.3wins-0.07per pick55cpaid-13.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x9d97…f2bebacked Natus Vincere36c275$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1764854.2%26 W · 22 L+2.9wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+7.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x0d8d…9fb0backed Team Yandex41c250$103 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1038622.1%19 W · 67 L-4.2wins-0.05per pick27cpaid-41.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xd3da…c91fbacked Natus Vincere48c234.02$112 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$121.697259.7%43 W · 29 L+4.8wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+14.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x17ca…87d1backed Natus Vincere43c232.56$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$132.5619552.8%103 W · 92 L-15.2wins-0.08per pick61cpaid-15%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xa533…acacbacked Natus Vincere44c227.27$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$127.276855.9%38 W · 30 L+2.4wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa27c…ab67backed Team Yandex55c210.31$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.6779959.4%475 W · 324 L+4.1wins+0.01per pick59cpaid-2.1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x0267…dc5abacked Natus Vincere27c200$54 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1461070%7 W · 3 L+4.5wins+0.45per pick25cpaid+163.2%equal weight64+0.13 edge/pick
0x8b5c…a4fcbacked Natus Vincere27c200$54 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$146955.6%5 W · 4 L+2.5wins+0.28per pick28cpaid+97.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xc4b2…4ab2backed Team Yandex53c199.99$105 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$105.328244%124 W · 158 L-5.1wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9d98…b8ffbacked Natus Vincere63c199.98$126 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$73.991172.7%8 W · 3 L+2.1wins+0.19per pick54cpaid+43.5%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xdcd6…84cdbacked Team Yandex31c194.09$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.9530%0 W · 3 L-0.5wins-0.18per pick18cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa6eb…bc82backed Natus Vincere20c182.56$37 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$146.05714.3%1 W · 6 L+0.5wins+0.07per pick7cpaid-28.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x209f…0eb4backed Natus Vincere65c154.08$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.933348.5%16 W · 17 L-0.8wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x5cab…a8cfbacked Team Yandex56c140.51$79 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$79.0435370%247 W · 106 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick69cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe42b…7ea9backed Natus Vincere36c137.75$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$88.1646535.1%163 W · 302 L+22.9wins+0.05per pick30cpaid+18.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x33f3…d80abacked Natus Vincere17c133.9$23 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$110.51911.1%1 W · 8 L+0.6wins+0.07per pick5cpaid-36.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x51a7…612bbacked Natus Vincere39c130.31$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$79.49520%1 W · 4 L-0.8wins-0.15per pick35cpaid-48.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x923b…73adbacked Team Yandex33c127.82$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42.1810%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.33per pick33cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3abf…b143backed Natus Vincere18c126.87$23 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$103.8133645.5%153 W · 183 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc49b…70c0backed Team Yandex32c123.73$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.563032.5%205 W · 425 L+1.4wins0.00per pick32cpaid-22.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x380c…951cbacked Natus Vincere75c120$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30.14973.5%36 W · 13 L+1.6wins+0.03per pick70cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7399…aa06backed Team Yandex46c120$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55.2955.6%5 W · 4 L+1.3wins+0.15per pick41cpaid+30.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x70da…68dbbacked Natus Vincere58c118.73$69 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.642157.1%12 W · 9 L+0.9wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+0.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x86e0…c394backed Team Yandex57c111.74$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63.5880742.6%344 W · 463 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3b63…4acdbacked Team Yandex56c107.7$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.3116248.8%79 W · 83 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9942…5c84backed Natus Vincere47c106.72$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.4226453%140 W · 124 L+0.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid-2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7d80…07d4backed Team Yandex48c104.17$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5030%0 W · 3 L-1.6wins-0.54per pick54cpaid-100%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x4d44…49e6backed Natus Vincere49c101.63$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.8372154%389 W · 332 L-8.8wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x40ba…7ea5backed Team Yandex54c100$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54.2153757.7%310 W · 227 L+11.8wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1532…1dadbacked Team Yandex45c99.99$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4522654.4%123 W · 103 L+0.1wins0.00per pick54cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0b99…8bddbacked Natus Vincere33c92.42$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$62.2977458.5%453 W · 321 L+75.1wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+12.4%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x3fb9…a8b3backed Natus Vincere55c85.45$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$38.4559556.6%337 W · 258 L+12.5wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+2.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x66ed…d321backed Natus Vincere47c85.11$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45.1134045.9%156 W · 184 L-8.6wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-10%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xc52f…0981backed Team Yandex42c83.33$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35850%4 W · 4 L-0.2wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-12.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x79cb…331ebacked Team Yandex20c80$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.99561.8%1 W · 55 L-2.1wins-0.04per pick6cpaid-77%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0702…e5eabacked Natus Vincere44c79.14$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.6340745.5%185 W · 222 L-1.9wins0.00per pick46cpaid-4.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf035…0924backed Natus Vincere46c78.59$36 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.4412449.2%61 W · 63 L-2.8wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfd5c…6d2abacked Natus Vincere29c73$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.555044%22 W · 28 L+1.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-6.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa750…0d0fbacked Natus Vincere65c70$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.537754.9%207 W · 170 L+20.9wins+0.06per pick49cpaid+9.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xf8f3…12a9backed Natus Vincere42c68.56$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.8311739.3%46 W · 71 L-6.6wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-11.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x3a97…66f5backed Natus Vincere44c67.09$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37.579959.6%59 W · 40 L+6.7wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+12.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xbda6…6ae0backed Natus Vincere56c66$37 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.7336051.9%187 W · 173 L+6.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x65e0…e51dbacked Natus Vincere33c64.94$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.5119443.3%84 W · 110 L-9.2wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-15.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.