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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: REKONIX vs Vici Gaming - Game 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Vici Gamingof REKONIX, Vici Gaming
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$305,493
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$325,430

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $305,493 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 240 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xe16d…5e30backed Vici Gaming58c51,431$29,648 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21,783.421,21057.1%691 W · 519 L+44.5wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+4.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x04f6…f24abacked REKONIX29c17,939$5,147 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,147.1250347.1%237 W · 266 L+14.9wins+0.03per pick44cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd06c…cdafbacked REKONIX30c9,238$2,738 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,738.141,17943.1%508 W · 671 L+41.0wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+1.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x5a05…12a2backed REKONIX14c8,568$1,233 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,233.247450.8%241 W · 233 L+16.7wins+0.04per pick47cpaid-1.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x2039…2e5fbacked Vici Gaming75c6,812$5,091 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,721.63652.8%19 W · 17 L+1.7wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+4.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7d8a…f907backed REKONIX31c6,068$1,881 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,881.0814136.9%52 W · 89 L-13.3wins-0.09per pick46cpaid-27.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xc949…fa93backed Vici Gaming68c6,000$4,080 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,9208242.7%35 W · 47 L-8.2wins-0.10per pick53cpaid-22.6%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed Vici Gaming61c5,497$3,331 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,166.2996357.3%552 W · 411 L+48.2wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+6.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed REKONIX32c5,000$1,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,60089440.3%360 W · 534 L+1.3wins0.00per pick40cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x82d2…beeabacked REKONIX57c5,000$2,850 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,849.9916746.1%77 W · 90 L-4.2wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2146…d41bbacked REKONIX24c4,927$1,191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,190.9189341.5%371 W · 522 L+23.0wins+0.03per pick39cpaid-1.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5952…8a5ebacked REKONIX31c4,736$1,468 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,468.169643.8%42 W · 54 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-4.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed Vici Gaming63c4,322$2,715 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,607.191,03647.2%489 W · 547 L+15.3wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-9.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xe872…819abacked Vici Gaming74c4,047$2,994 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,052.7622340.4%90 W · 133 L-8.7wins-0.04per pick44cpaid-14.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xbfe9…5f53backed REKONIX31c4,000$1,240 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,2401369.2%9 W · 4 L+2.4wins+0.18per pick51cpaid+19.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked REKONIX39c3,750$1,445 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,445.3180056%448 W · 352 L+23.0wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x67bb…b6efbacked Vici Gaming79c3,709$2,931 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$777.4828159.8%168 W · 113 L+6.6wins+0.02per pick57cpaid+1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Vici Gaming63c3,423$2,161 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,262.821,15547.8%552 W · 603 L+29.5wins+0.03per pick45cpaid-8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc0f1…8680backed REKONIX35c3,380$1,186 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,185.8528044.3%124 W · 156 L+3.2wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-4.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x540d…c8f9backed REKONIX41c3,301$1,356 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,355.6338855.2%214 W · 174 L+29.8wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+7.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x5a46…8112backed REKONIX46c3,261$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,5002347.8%11 W · 12 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-10.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x782f…b46abacked REKONIX31c2,960$918 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$917.65750.9%29 W · 28 L+3.5wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+5.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x57b4…b46bbacked REKONIX31c2,958$917 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$916.8724246.7%113 W · 129 L-4.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x19ae…395cbacked Vici Gaming32c2,819$900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,918.9831936.7%117 W · 202 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-5.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb1b8…9d1fbacked REKONIX1c2,498$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.9816725.7%43 W · 124 L+4.8wins+0.03per pick23cpaid-23.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc156…f76cbacked REKONIX32c2,488$785 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$785.4816547.9%79 W · 86 L+4.8wins+0.03per pick45cpaid-4.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4a57…7b0abacked REKONIX37c2,237$821 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$820.558657%49 W · 37 L+5.7wins+0.07per pick50cpaid+11.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x505f…645ebacked REKONIX32c2,194$703 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$702.761,27045.1%573 W · 697 L-10.9wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-14.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc592…1ccebacked REKONIX41c2,150$877 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$877.239042.2%38 W · 52 L-2.7wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-16.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x219a…f65bbacked REKONIX21c2,053$439 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$438.563435.3%12 W · 22 L-0.6wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-24.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x048f…9992backed REKONIX1c2,000$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$202110.5%1 W · 210 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-99.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x53e9…5ef8backed REKONIX23c2,000$460 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46018143.6%79 W · 102 L+7.1wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+5.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Vici Gaming58c1,913$1,109 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$803.141,82145%820 W · 1,001 L+33.5wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2deb…2b13backed REKONIX19c1,613$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30011551.3%59 W · 56 L+0.1wins0.00per pick51cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdbaf…f5d1backed REKONIX60c1,576$945 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$945.1435637.1%132 W · 224 L-9.6wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-5.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked Vici Gaming54c1,509$817 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$691.931,06657%608 W · 458 L+52.7wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+1.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x249f…fed3backed REKONIX21c1,408$292 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$292.0962650.5%316 W · 310 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0e50…2609backed REKONIX33c1,406$468 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$468.2917757.6%102 W · 75 L+6.7wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+5.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x31a4…7afcbacked REKONIX24c1,350$324 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32494442.3%399 W · 545 L-20.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7eef…44a0backed Vici Gaming73c1,315$958 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$356.857160.6%43 W · 28 L+1.6wins+0.02per pick58cpaid+5.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1365…c82abacked REKONIX42c1,245$518 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$517.9861256%343 W · 269 L+13.6wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+4.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfe3f…0fcfbacked Vici Gaming73c1,210$883 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$326.786659.6%516 W · 350 L-8.6wins-0.01per pick61cpaid-2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9055…756abacked Vici Gaming78c1,161$906 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$255.4111960.5%72 W · 47 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick60cpaid-0.1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x2924…0f31backed REKONIX25c1,095$271 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$271.4647046.6%219 W · 251 L+1.9wins0.00per pick46cpaid-12.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc75a…1ab2backed REKONIX3c1,010$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.240014.8%59 W · 341 L+11.2wins+0.03per pick12cpaid-1.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5502…d440backed Vici Gaming79c999.99$790 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21045457.5%261 W · 193 L+39.5wins+0.09per pick49cpaid+14%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x9679…9315backed REKONIX20c915$183 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18316058.8%94 W · 66 L+9.6wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x958c…a328backed Vici Gaming50c914$457 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45728347%133 W · 150 L+10.9wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+9.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xa623…a4febacked Vici Gaming65c892.59$577 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$315.950749.7%252 W · 255 L+15.3wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-0.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x80ba…2e78backed REKONIX30c839.98$252 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$251.9988539.7%351 W · 534 L+7.7wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0273…f081backed REKONIX24c822.99$198 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$197.5215539.4%61 W · 94 L+0.2wins0.00per pick39cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed REKONIX35c800$280 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28049455.1%272 W · 222 L+6.0wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x08b8…e7dabacked Vici Gaming70c795.32$557 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$238.630854.9%169 W · 139 L+10.9wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xc6f1…5729backed Vici Gaming78c777.47$606 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$171.272564%16 W · 9 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick65cpaid0%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb877…4601backed REKONIX38c768.17$294 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$294.2541055.1%226 W · 184 L+39.6wins+0.10per pick45cpaid+19.2%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x34ec…2711backed REKONIX31c760.45$239 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23910039%39 W · 61 L-3.9wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-15.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x86b1…c094backed REKONIX4c750$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3065625.6%168 W · 488 L+14.7wins+0.02per pick23cpaid-1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x13e5…1ea5backed REKONIX42c743.98$309 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$309.29650%48 W · 48 L-3.9wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-11.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xfb8f…4a0bbacked REKONIX31c740$229 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$229.45444.4%24 W · 30 L-1.0wins-0.02per pick46cpaid+1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc714…d152backed Vici Gaming61c726.13$444 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$281.8821158.3%123 W · 88 L+8.4wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+4.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x83a0…eabbbacked REKONIX31c700$217 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2177728.6%22 W · 55 L-2.1wins-0.03per pick31cpaid-23.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x070f…ed83backed REKONIX34c700$238 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$237.9526247.7%125 W · 137 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5592…aedebacked REKONIX46c653.33$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3001533.3%5 W · 10 L-2.6wins-0.18per pick51cpaid-27.8%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x9bb7…7028backed REKONIX15c647.5$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1006839.7%27 W · 41 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-9.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3a48…e3a8backed Vici Gaming62c637.18$392 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$244.7825266.3%167 W · 85 L+20.5wins+0.08per pick58cpaid+15.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x450e…4fddbacked REKONIX42c622.58$261 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$260.7311758.1%68 W · 49 L+4.8wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+8.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xb36f…53d0backed REKONIX31c622.39$193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$192.9420949.8%104 W · 105 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9d8a…5201backed REKONIX31c599.99$186 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18622727.3%62 W · 165 L-9.7wins-0.04per pick32cpaid-17.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x0c7b…6e9dbacked Vici Gaming50c593.63$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29425246.8%118 W · 134 L-2.8wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-5.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x30da…a11dbacked REKONIX35c576.43$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2006031.7%19 W · 41 L-3.8wins-0.06per pick38cpaid-35%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xc214…105dbacked REKONIX44c570.75$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25048843.6%213 W · 275 L-11.8wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-12%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Vici Gaming59c569.64$338 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$231.812,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x6e54…511ebacked Vici Gaming68c568.24$386 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$181.8427345.8%125 W · 148 L-5.2wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-6.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0c67…d062backed REKONIX35c567.72$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2001,13742.3%481 W · 656 L-27.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xcd65…5726backed REKONIX44c562.5$247 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$246.9711753%62 W · 55 L-0.3wins0.00per pick53cpaid-2.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x87e6…9c8abacked Vici Gaming80c557.96$444 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$113.9612253.3%65 W · 57 L+3.8wins+0.03per pick50cpaid-4.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0e1b…ecafbacked REKONIX36c545.98$194 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$194.4496645.1%436 W · 530 L-7.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-13.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked REKONIX35c543.14$193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$192.631,44348.7%703 W · 740 L+29.5wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-14.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x930b…0223backed REKONIX37c540.54$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20023459%138 W · 96 L+0.6wins0.00per pick59cpaid+2.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5a0d…40cabacked Vici Gaming77c523.7$402 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$121.75976.3%45 W · 14 L+4.8wins+0.08per pick68cpaid+10.9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x8935…7daabacked REKONIX36c502.63$181 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$180.821,15147.8%550 W · 601 L-12.0wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-12%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8a38…fee0backed Vici Gaming69c500.94$346 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$155.2960349.9%301 W · 302 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x596a…7a0fbacked REKONIX32c500.11$161 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$160.6870236.6%257 W · 445 L+4.8wins+0.01per pick36cpaid0%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdf27…026fbacked REKONIX31c500$155 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15565863.1%415 W · 243 L+17.5wins+0.03per pick60cpaid+4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xcc36…d35dbacked REKONIX33c500$165 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1654645.7%21 W · 25 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick47cpaid+2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0758…9532backed REKONIX48c499.99$240 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24018437.5%69 W · 115 L-3.4wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1b9a…a06bbacked REKONIX7c499.99$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3537811.1%42 W · 336 L+0.8wins0.00per pick11cpaid-21.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1f79…434abacked Vici Gaming27c499.99$134 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$365.8849644.6%221 W · 275 L+13.5wins+0.03per pick42cpaid-6.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xcf0a…320abacked REKONIX43c492.61$213 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$213.3391756.5%518 W · 399 L+79.2wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+3.3%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xfb87…a45dbacked REKONIX56c483.06$270 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$270.074544.4%20 W · 25 L-2.0wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-10.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed REKONIX28c473.84$132 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$131.5292846.2%429 W · 499 L-16.6wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-15.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0b99…8bddbacked Vici Gaming57c469.42$267 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$202.1977258.5%452 W · 320 L+74.8wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+12.5%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xf0da…749bbacked Vici Gaming73c469.22$344 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$124.812420.8%5 W · 19 L-2.7wins-0.11per pick32cpaid-67.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x5006…48cabacked REKONIX33c451.89$149 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$149.124050%20 W · 20 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-12.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1b59…0ba0backed REKONIX47c447.08$209 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$209.4727637.3%103 W · 173 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-4.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb6b3…9441backed REKONIX31c444$138 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$137.646639.4%26 W · 40 L-0.2wins0.00per pick40cpaid-7.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf031…5a31backed Vici Gaming70c432.46$303 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$129.74333.3%1 W · 2 L-1.0wins-0.35per pick68cpaid-52.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xba06…8024backed Vici Gaming70c425.88$296 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$129.515950.3%80 W · 79 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf201…527ebacked REKONIX40c409.28$164 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$163.7132549.8%162 W · 163 L+23.9wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+7.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xbfeb…763ebacked REKONIX23c409$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$94.511535.7%41 W · 74 L-6.7wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-24.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.