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NHL · resolved market

Kraken vs. Canucks

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Krakenof Kraken, Canucks
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NHLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$694,509
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$734,656

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $694,509 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 442 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NHL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NHL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x16b2…a881backed Canucks56c103,510$58,139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58,139.3988151.2%451 W · 430 L+10.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x98f7…b3e4backed Kraken43c56,737$24,617 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32,119.0510753.3%57 W · 50 L+7.6wins+0.07per pick46cpaid+17.3%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Kraken54c47,696$25,544 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22,151.911,34554.8%737 W · 608 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xaa07…2125backed Kraken41c40,145$16,330 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23,815.11,07049.9%534 W · 536 L+22.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Kraken44c34,809$15,146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,663.241,43450.8%728 W · 706 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0aa3…64e9backed Canucks59c30,494$17,992 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17,991.732343.5%10 W · 13 L-0.4wins-0.02per pick45cpaid+52.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9c16…09cbbacked Canucks58c20,000$11,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,6008354.2%45 W · 38 L+5.2wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+14.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x6b9c…57b3backed Kraken50c14,191$7,059 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,132.42450%2 W · 2 L-0.2wins-0.04per pick54cpaid0%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7d5c…0182backed Kraken42c14,116$5,929 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,187.3428353%150 W · 133 L+16.6wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+14.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x3e04…564dbacked Canucks57c12,586$7,131 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,130.911,89152.4%991 W · 900 L+36.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xead0…f3babacked Canucks56c12,500$7,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,00032946.8%154 W · 175 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9f13…e0fdbacked Canucks58c10,207$5,920 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,920.2547951.4%246 W · 233 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-2.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4738…df78backed Canucks60c10,000$6,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,0005735.1%20 W · 37 L-13.5wins-0.24per pick59cpaid-40.6%equal weight32-0.17 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Canucks57c10,000$5,650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,649.9789547%421 W · 474 L-18.0wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9731…9b35backed Canucks57c9,996$5,648 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,648.2193953.6%503 W · 436 L+29.6wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7234…1d85backed Kraken70c9,867$6,907 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,960.148650%43 W · 43 L-1.9wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-4.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x17e0…80aebacked Kraken58c8,606$4,997 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,608.7132744%144 W · 183 L+3.1wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-11.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Canucks56c7,829$4,384 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,384.2479350.1%397 W · 396 L-11.5wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-3.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Canucks39c7,708$3,010 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,009.5238738%147 W · 240 L-13.9wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-28.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5836…4d03backed Kraken42c7,143$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,142.868247.6%39 W · 43 L+4.6wins+0.06per pick42cpaid+11.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x3c7e…a65fbacked Kraken44c6,871$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,871.0460337.5%226 W · 377 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-8.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Kraken41c6,350$2,623 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,726.661,94849.4%962 W · 986 L+24.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x83ab…3d56backed Canucks58c6,000$3,480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,4804949%24 W · 25 L+0.2wins0.00per pick49cpaid+5.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x76ed…fa48backed Kraken61c5,054$3,090 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,9646065%39 W · 21 L+7.8wins+0.13per pick52cpaid+99.5%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x9c4d…168cbacked Kraken43c5,000$2,171 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,828.951,08745.1%490 W · 597 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4488…e319backed Kraken44c5,000$2,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,80027243.4%118 W · 154 L-16.8wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-11.2%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x447e…9710backed Canucks56c5,000$2,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,799.99955.6%5 W · 4 L+0.3wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+8.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x03e8…1697backed Kraken41c4,857$1,991 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,865.6867051%342 W · 328 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3d7d…ec26backed Canucks39c4,674$1,821 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,820.69633.3%2 W · 4 L-0.6wins-0.09per pick43cpaid-9.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Canucks34c4,580$1,568 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,568.289636.9%331 W · 565 L-30.9wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-26.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Canucks57c4,493$2,573 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,573.461,67954.4%914 W · 765 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x07c8…2696backed Canucks57c4,351$2,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,5007844.9%35 W · 43 L-1.6wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-7.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8c0b…7aa5backed Kraken51c4,315$2,202 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,113.68252.4%43 W · 39 L+6.2wins+0.08per pick45cpaid+12.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xbd09…a188backed Kraken40c4,000$1,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,40061748.5%299 W · 318 L+0.4wins0.00per pick48cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1d3a…7b63backed Canucks58c4,000$2,320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,319.9986649.9%432 W · 434 L+1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x01b4…372ebacked Canucks4c3,808$160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$159.922174.1%9 W · 208 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick3cpaid+36.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf699…07e1backed Canucks58c3,776$2,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,199.6385464.2%548 W · 306 L+64.5wins+0.08per pick57cpaid+18.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xe36b…efdfbacked Kraken6c3,750$225 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,5251100%1 W · 0 L+0.9wins+0.94per pick6cpaid+1,566.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xdff3…70e4backed Canucks59c3,675$2,168 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,168.25666.7%4 W · 2 L+0.6wins+0.09per pick57cpaid+14.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x98a3…d61ebacked Kraken47c3,645$1,715 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,930.24746.8%22 W · 25 L-1.9wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-7.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x360d…5e0fbacked Kraken52c3,609$1,874 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,735.234032.5%13 W · 27 L-8.5wins-0.21per pick54cpaid-39.6%equal weight36-0.13 edge/pick
0x3eb6…2abbbacked Canucks4c3,600$142 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1421076.5%7 W · 100 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick6cpaid-6.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xaddc…ed0dbacked Canucks60c3,500$2,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,10030%0 W · 3 L-1.3wins-0.43per pick43cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe948…ff23backed Canucks58c3,448$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,00029651.7%153 W · 143 L+3.4wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd269…8055backed Kraken44c3,409$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,909.0928152%146 W · 135 L+2.7wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf9fe…366bbacked Canucks57c3,000$1,710 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,71025552.5%134 W · 121 L-0.7wins0.00per pick53cpaid-3.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x56c2…17bfbacked Canucks59c3,000$1,770 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,77025447.2%120 W · 134 L-1.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid-4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe0db…f44ebacked Canucks56c3,000$1,680 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,68039752.1%207 W · 190 L+2.6wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x490e…73adbacked Kraken47c2,992$1,396 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,596.051662.5%10 W · 6 L+1.2wins+0.08per pick55cpaid+2.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Kraken56c2,696$1,499 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,197.511,35452.6%712 W · 642 L+46.2wins+0.03per pick49cpaid-8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xa315…cabbbacked Canucks62c2,675$1,645 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,645.2532251.9%167 W · 155 L+4.4wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+4.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xed2c…9597backed Canucks57c2,567$1,463 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,463.1833345.6%152 W · 181 L+0.7wins0.00per pick45cpaid-2.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x14f3…0c3dbacked Canucks59c2,520$1,487 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,486.814848%71 W · 77 L-0.7wins0.00per pick48cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfbb3…d38ebacked Kraken70c2,500$1,750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7506958%40 W · 29 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick57cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd04d…d0e5backed Canucks57c2,500$1,423 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,422.7397651.6%504 W · 472 L-3.9wins0.00per pick52cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Kraken51c2,485$1,260 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,224.821,38447.1%652 W · 732 L+25.6wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1b9e…0262backed Canucks62c2,416$1,498 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,497.922138.1%8 W · 13 L-3.2wins-0.15per pick54cpaid-31.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Kraken52c2,415$1,256 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,159.572,66451.6%1,375 W · 1,289 L+58.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x65cd…1e0bbacked Kraken47c2,330$1,095 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,234.64650%3 W · 3 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-7.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x371a…34b0backed Canucks1c2,222$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.227450.7%5 W · 740 L-13.2wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-94.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x70db…05c8backed Canucks43c2,162$933 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$932.92837.5%3 W · 5 L-0.7wins-0.09per pick46cpaid-22.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Canucks56c2,066$1,157 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,157.191,55551.4%800 W · 755 L+12.2wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb875…68a8backed Canucks59c2,041$1,204 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,204.1824654.5%134 W · 112 L+9.2wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+9.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf91e…7e0bbacked Canucks54c2,026$1,090 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,089.874047.5%19 W · 21 L-2.8wins-0.07per pick54cpaid-14.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6f8d…4537backed Canucks61c2,000$1,220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,220450%2 W · 2 L-0.7wins-0.19per pick69cpaid-25.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x24da…9561backed Kraken43c2,000$860 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,1402740.7%11 W · 16 L-1.3wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-11.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8c58…e330backed Kraken69c1,953$1,347 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$606.0542254.3%229 W · 193 L+18.3wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+5.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x5a09…3c83backed Canucks72c1,945$1,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,4001258.3%7 W · 5 L-0.2wins-0.02per pick60cpaid-1.2%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x092d…d44cbacked Kraken50c1,820$908 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$912.212470.8%17 W · 7 L+2.1wins+0.09per pick62cpaid+17.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xbd38…7d16backed Canucks61c1,807$1,102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,102.2710%0 W · 1 L-0.6wins-0.61per pick61cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5bc4…f44fbacked Kraken43c1,800$774 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,02668449.9%341 W · 343 L-3.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc08d…c13bbacked Kraken39c1,795$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,094.95333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.3wins-0.10per pick44cpaid-14.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa9d1…4660backed Canucks9c1,687$152 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$152.2429412.9%38 W · 256 L+5.3wins+0.02per pick11cpaid+45.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd50c…76c3backed Kraken71c1,560$1,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$460.133360.6%20 W · 13 L+1.6wins+0.05per pick56cpaid+3.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6884…6ccfbacked Canucks51c1,515$777 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7776262.9%39 W · 23 L+7.2wins+0.12per pick51cpaid+26.9%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x5c57…5b16backed Canucks57c1,500$863 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$862.51,47548.3%712 W · 763 L+2.7wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc4a6…6d23backed Kraken44c1,493$657 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$835.9328853.1%153 W · 135 L+14.6wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+11.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x13a1…d9bcbacked Kraken58c1,428$825 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$603.0557157.8%330 W · 241 L+12.7wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+1.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0a77…9d74backed Canucks55c1,381$760 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$759.5452050%260 W · 260 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x58c8…0300backed Canucks40c1,362$540 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$540.1460141.9%252 W · 349 L-8.5wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-18.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x07fc…7ac6backed Canucks57c1,322$754 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$753.671353.8%7 W · 6 L+0.5wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+13.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Canucks30c1,308$395 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$394.561,40647%661 W · 745 L+58.6wins+0.04per pick43cpaid-0.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xcbbc…b5d0backed Canucks10c1,300$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$127214.8%1 W · 20 L-1.3wins-0.06per pick11cpaid-86.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Canucks46c1,296$590 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$590.0699638.2%380 W · 616 L-10.3wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-12.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Canucks50c1,262$633 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$632.891,30152.6%684 W · 617 L+23.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xee7e…61bbbacked Kraken43c1,256$534 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$721.6941248.3%199 W · 213 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-2.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0d29…6da9backed Kraken76c1,248$946 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$301.71258.3%7 W · 5 L-1.1wins-0.09per pick67cpaid-13.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3fbd…c4e4backed Canucks62c1,233$764 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$764.4613850.7%70 W · 68 L+5.4wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+3.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1467…4372backed Kraken44c1,125$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$624.9432151.7%166 W · 155 L-1.5wins0.00per pick52cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x934f…f3b8backed Kraken71c1,124$796 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$327.941100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.29per pick71cpaid+41.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3107…63b9backed Canucks56c1,040$582 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$581.81258.3%7 W · 5 L+1.1wins+0.09per pick50cpaid+26.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x977a…f2cabacked Canucks1c1,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101,1632.3%27 W · 1,136 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick3cpaid-87.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x80cf…427dbacked Canucks59c1,000$590 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5902759.3%16 W · 11 L-0.1wins0.00per pick60cpaid+4.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9285…749ebacked Kraken49c1,000$490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5102556%14 W · 11 L+2.0wins+0.08per pick48cpaid+26.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x65d4…4e71backed Canucks52c984.56$513 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$513.311553.3%8 W · 7 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick55cpaid-9.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Canucks31c974.29$303 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$302.952,11242.9%907 W · 1,205 L-10.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid-9.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x4ef3…93a1backed Canucks62c967.27$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60020%0 W · 2 L-1.2wins-0.61per pick61cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xa00f…8e56backed Canucks38c961.75$366 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$366.2549045.3%222 W · 268 L-1.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5e30…acbfbacked Canucks55c954.99$525 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$525.2483149.5%411 W · 420 L-9.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcc30…c8a5backed Canucks52c923.08$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4802657.7%15 W · 11 L+4.4wins+0.17per pick41cpaid+66%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NHL and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.