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NFL · resolved market

Seahawks vs. Steelers

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Seahawksof Seahawks, Steelers
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NFLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,311,718
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,264,063

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,311,718 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 252 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NFL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NFL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x1f9b…3d2cbacked Seahawks37c767,040$282,636 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$484,404.1862.5%5 W · 3 L+0.6wins+0.07per pick55cpaid+7.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdf2e…ddecbacked Steelers62c223,353$139,491 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$139,491.1522548.4%109 W · 116 L+5.2wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5139…a8dbbacked Steelers65c217,857$140,755 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$140,755.1244652.9%236 W · 210 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick52cpaid+1.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9ec2…69fdbacked Steelers58c71,000$41,330 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41,329.9911755.6%65 W · 52 L-2.2wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-5.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x245b…00c5backed Steelers62c60,000$37,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37,2005850%29 W · 29 L+2.7wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+14.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xae81…aafbbacked Steelers63c59,667$37,589 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37,589.110%0 W · 1 L-0.6wins-0.63per pick63cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe38e…c29dbacked Seahawks35c50,000$17,700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32,299.9810566.7%70 W · 35 L+12.6wins+0.12per pick55cpaid+19.3%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x090a…01b4backed Seahawks36c40,070$14,425 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25,644.816836.9%62 W · 106 L-5.3wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-4.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd38b…5029backed Steelers64c40,000$25,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25,60019553.8%105 W · 90 L+16.1wins+0.08per pick46cpaid+23.7%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x5375…aeeabacked Steelers52c38,594$20,124 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20,123.947738.6%184 W · 293 L-6.8wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-12.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x1117…3532backed Steelers64c34,000$21,760 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21,76031240.7%127 W · 185 L-22.0wins-0.07per pick48cpaid-16.5%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x2fe6…ab9dbacked Steelers1c29,254$298 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$297.6120634.5%71 W · 135 L-0.2wins0.00per pick35cpaid-24.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Steelers63c28,092$17,585 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17,584.553348.4%258 W · 275 L+1.7wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xebc0…fa41backed Steelers64c27,813$17,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17,80010462.5%65 W · 39 L+9.5wins+0.09per pick53cpaid+45.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xc2ae…2a5fbacked Steelers63c25,000$15,750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15,7503745.9%17 W · 20 L-1.9wins-0.05per pick51cpaid+3.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xafba…e61bbacked Steelers64c21,464$13,737 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,736.7517454.6%95 W · 79 L+8.9wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+12.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x781c…db68backed Steelers9c21,341$1,966 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,966.168446.1%315 W · 369 L+16.9wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-6.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xa49b…4c40backed Steelers63c20,000$12,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,60010333%34 W · 69 L-2.3wins-0.02per pick35cpaid-18.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8fba…d08abacked Seahawks38c18,218$6,923 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,295.413036.7%11 W · 19 L-0.2wins-0.01per pick37cpaid+5.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa5e3…4d7ebacked Steelers63c18,000$11,340 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,3406339.7%25 W · 38 L-5.9wins-0.09per pick49cpaid-26.3%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xb786…b18dbacked Steelers62c17,334$10,737 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,737.0431848.1%153 W · 165 L+5.8wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Seahawks46c16,892$7,849 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,042.3460049.3%296 W · 304 L+21.0wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+3.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x2d0f…4faabacked Seahawks35c16,435$5,810 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,625.1914351%73 W · 70 L+8.4wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+4.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x843d…e617backed Steelers64c15,000$9,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,600862.5%5 W · 3 L+0.7wins+0.09per pick54cpaid+6.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbde5…9c38backed Seahawks38c14,780$5,564 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,215.7230743.6%134 W · 173 L-1.2wins0.00per pick44cpaid-5.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x481b…74c1backed Seahawks53c14,151$7,440 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,711.4919551.3%100 W · 95 L+5.0wins+0.03per pick49cpaid-6.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Steelers62c14,018$8,689 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,688.8527348.7%133 W · 140 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-7.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xea64…f2a2backed Steelers63c11,352$7,190 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,189.6324551%125 W · 120 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc8b4…f05dbacked Steelers62c10,313$6,394 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,393.8211146.8%52 W · 59 L-2.6wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-6.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Seahawks35c10,000$3,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,50083147.8%397 W · 434 L+13.7wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa983…46a3backed Steelers77c9,256$7,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,1001764.7%11 W · 6 L+0.7wins+0.04per pick60cpaid+9.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xae76…dce5backed Steelers62c8,120$5,061 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,06127339.2%107 W · 166 L-13.1wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-14.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x578d…fbb3backed Seahawks36c7,761$2,801 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,960.361758.8%10 W · 7 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick56cpaid-6.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5137…1556backed Seahawks36c7,134$2,590 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,543.1283447.1%393 W · 441 L+9.0wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x31c5…ede4backed Steelers61c6,681$4,076 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,075.6816545.5%75 W · 90 L+4.2wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+12.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xefc9…b337backed Seahawks40c6,442$2,577 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,865.139754.6%53 W · 44 L+9.1wins+0.09per pick45cpaid+13%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xd267…9dc6backed Seahawks39c6,119$2,386 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,732.595837.9%22 W · 36 L+1.7wins+0.03per pick35cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xed0e…b305backed Seahawks21c5,006$1,052 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,954.228921.3%19 W · 70 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick22cpaid-32.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5f9e…46b5backed Seahawks36c5,000$1,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,200650%3 W · 3 L+0.5wins+0.08per pick42cpaid-4.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x445e…9be0backed Seahawks37c5,000$1,870 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,129.9826650.8%135 W · 131 L+1.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-4.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x067f…e041backed Seahawks39c5,000$1,960 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,039.9618435.9%66 W · 118 L-4.2wins-0.02per pick38cpaid+1.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Seahawks40c4,980$1,981 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,999.3230043.7%131 W · 169 L-4.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-15.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb13d…2e90backed Steelers63c4,693$2,936 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,936.2731854.7%174 W · 144 L+16.8wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+12.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x28b1…5a3fbacked Steelers62c4,041$2,514 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,514.419359.1%55 W · 38 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick58cpaid-0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb27f…8908backed Seahawks39c4,000$1,560 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,439.965851.7%30 W · 28 L+4.7wins+0.08per pick44cpaid+5.5%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x328e…dc42backed Steelers63c3,590$2,258 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,258.494436.4%16 W · 28 L-2.9wins-0.07per pick43cpaid-28.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xdbb9…ed8dbacked Seahawks36c3,567$1,267 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,300.381,06551.3%546 W · 519 L+25.3wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xde04…fa37backed Seahawks50c3,509$1,769 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,740.0964747.3%306 W · 341 L+42.5wins+0.07per pick41cpaid+56.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x6239…c24fbacked Seahawks39c3,406$1,325 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,080.3732050.9%163 W · 157 L+7.1wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+5.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1bbc…f458backed Steelers63c3,294$2,075 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,074.598648.8%42 W · 44 L-2.2wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-11.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa315…cabbbacked Steelers64c2,803$1,794 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,793.8628447.5%135 W · 149 L-5.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4a1e…86d3backed Seahawks39c2,643$1,031 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,612.3213450%67 W · 67 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5806…ecf7backed Seahawks40c2,501$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,500.62450%2 W · 2 L+0.3wins+0.08per pick42cpaid+16.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4dbe…af34backed Steelers64c2,500$1,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,6008959.6%53 W · 36 L+7.4wins+0.08per pick51cpaid+20.6%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x4cb5…8b87backed Steelers19c2,360$460 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4602951.7%15 W · 14 L+2.4wins+0.08per pick44cpaid+6.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x2129…4222backed Seahawks45c2,058$927 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,130.661148.6%297 W · 314 L+10.7wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-0.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe83c…5e8fbacked Steelers63c2,000$1,260 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,26039754.4%216 W · 181 L+26.0wins+0.07per pick48cpaid+13.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x96df…4caabacked Seahawks23c2,000$460 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,5404443.2%19 W · 25 L-0.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid-2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa408…e305backed Steelers47c1,907$897 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$896.896550.8%33 W · 32 L+3.7wins+0.06per pick45cpaid-7.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xd6f4…0566backed Seahawks44c1,784$777 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,007.5516254.9%89 W · 73 L+4.9wins+0.03per pick52cpaid-2.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7308…c177backed Steelers63c1,674$1,054 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,053.761850%9 W · 9 L+0.3wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+4.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe8ff…c93bbacked Steelers62c1,613$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0001346.2%6 W · 7 L-1.2wins-0.10per pick56cpaid-11.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xf9fe…366bbacked Steelers65c1,500$975 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97536246.7%169 W · 193 L-7.7wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-8.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9aaf…114dbacked Steelers65c1,500$975 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9751127.3%3 W · 8 L-2.2wins-0.20per pick47cpaid-51.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x33bc…37dcbacked Seahawks36c1,500$540 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$96041540.2%167 W · 248 L-7.8wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-19.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5c57…5b16backed Seahawks38c1,500$570 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$929.9919543.6%85 W · 110 L-3.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-8.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc996…bb65backed Steelers77c1,403$1,080 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,080.3141947.3%198 W · 221 L+1.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-2.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xff3d…d276backed Steelers2c1,216$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22250%1 W · 1 L+0.3wins+0.13per pick37cpaid-30.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x371a…34b0backed Steelers2c1,140$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.44311.6%7 W · 424 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick3cpaid-82.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7430…3af2backed Steelers64c1,012$648 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$647.684645.7%21 W · 25 L-3.5wins-0.08per pick53cpaid-12.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x2b51…e165backed Steelers62c1,000$620 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$62030446.7%142 W · 162 L-6.2wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-10.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb45d…a406backed Steelers48c1,000$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48012138.8%47 W · 74 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-5.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Seahawks50c963.51$486 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$477.4831056.8%176 W · 134 L+16.1wins+0.05per pick52cpaid-0.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x1f8d…6790backed Steelers62c937.72$580 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5808247.6%39 W · 43 L-6.6wins-0.08per pick56cpaid-18.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x29c0…efaabacked Seahawks36c854.81$311 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$543.3624054.6%131 W · 109 L+3.5wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc57b…0a2bbacked Steelers60c833.33$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5006536.9%24 W · 41 L-2.2wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-17.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xabdd…f499backed Seahawks21c750$158 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$592.5728.6%2 W · 5 L-0.2wins-0.02per pick31cpaid+30.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6b7c…5f83backed Steelers51c720.84$365 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$365.427644.2%122 W · 154 L-7.6wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-13%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1037…413fbacked Steelers63c681.43$429 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$429.122846.4%13 W · 15 L-1.4wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-15.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2b92…046ebacked Seahawks29c680$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4806936.2%25 W · 44 L-5.4wins-0.08per pick44cpaid-23.5%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xcb40…a284backed Seahawks47c659.17$311 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$348.0914443.8%63 W · 81 L+3.9wins+0.03per pick41cpaid+3.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x8511…4a6bbacked Steelers62c655$406 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$406.16752.2%35 W · 32 L+3.3wins+0.05per pick47cpaid+5.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x46f5…a1d8backed Steelers57c611.19$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3505442.6%23 W · 31 L-2.8wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-17.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xfc87…dd68backed Steelers64c584.99$374 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$374.393429.4%10 W · 24 L-3.2wins-0.09per pick39cpaid-34.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xe68a…5e25backed Steelers63c578$364 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$364.1412954.3%70 W · 59 L+1.6wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa9d3…9d4bbacked Steelers63c556$351 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$351.1620555.6%114 W · 91 L+15.7wins+0.08per pick48cpaid+17.1%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x823d…8091backed Seahawks40c545$218 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3275137.3%19 W · 32 L-1.5wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-17.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x76c8…ba09backed Steelers58c528.45$309 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$308.632433.3%8 W · 16 L-1.7wins-0.07per pick41cpaid-34.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x1fcf…48e1backed Seahawks28c500$140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3601100%1 W · 0 L+0.7wins+0.72per pick28cpaid+257.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb6c5…7becbacked Steelers63c500$316 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$315.71723.5%4 W · 13 L-2.2wins-0.13per pick36cpaid-53.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x9c4d…168cbacked Steelers62c500$310 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31012250%61 W · 61 L+8.5wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+19.8%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xd561…9423backed Steelers61c499.98$305 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$304.9910467.3%70 W · 34 L+9.5wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+7.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x3d64…01fabacked Seahawks39c495.06$193 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$301.9910629.2%31 W · 75 L-4.5wins-0.04per pick34cpaid-11.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe88e…a7d4backed Steelers65c463.08$301 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3018349.4%41 W · 42 L-5.0wins-0.06per pick55cpaid-20.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x4e25…d7a7backed Seahawks20c450$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36013430.6%41 W · 93 L-12.1wins-0.09per pick40cpaid-39%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0xa3c3…3242backed Steelers67c444.72$298 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$298.4112151.2%62 W · 59 L+3.9wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+7.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd428…6368backed Steelers62c370$229 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$229.41747.1%8 W · 9 L-2.3wins-0.14per pick61cpaid-17.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xcc80…2fdbbacked Steelers60c359.97$217 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$217.316058.3%35 W · 25 L+3.9wins+0.07per pick52cpaid+7.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xf641…7b6fbacked Seahawks49c355$174 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$181.054165.9%27 W · 14 L+1.5wins+0.04per pick62cpaid+1.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x5482…b6eebacked Steelers4c333.95$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.681128%9 W · 103 L+4.1wins+0.04per pick4cpaid+413.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NFL and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 6 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.