Lol · resolved market
LoL: LYON vs Shopify Rebellion (BO3) - LCS Regular Season
https://tailmypicks.com/m/0x4bf5efaeba52acf26918bf69a2cecc550b152451970ea29f640529f218799054
Rebuilt .
What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- LYONof LYON, Shopify Rebellion
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $168,419
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $191,109
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $168,419 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 76 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in Lol | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0xd218…b5c9backed Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 16,184$1,762 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,761.84 | 1,067 | 23.5%251 W · 816 L | -76.8wins | -0.07per pick | 31cpaid | -49.5%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x4337…8882backed Shopify Rebellion | 14c | 14,110$2,008 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$2,008.22 | 1,098 | 34.8%382 W · 716 L | -17.1wins | -0.02per pick | 36cpaid | -10.7%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x507e…beaebacked Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 12,876$1,416 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,416.33 | 2,406 | 42.6%1,026 W · 1,380 L | +21.5wins | +0.01per pick | 42cpaid | -5.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x5aa9…febebacked Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 10,000$1,100 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,100 | 1,158 | 42.6%493 W · 665 L | -23.9wins | -0.02per pick | 45cpaid | -20.2%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xd100…853dbacked Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 5,680$625 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$624.76 | 40 | 40%16 W · 24 L | -0.8wins | -0.02per pick | 42cpaid | -22.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x52b7…0aa1backed Shopify Rebellion | 6c | 5,000$300 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$299.99 | 1,474 | 29%427 W · 1,047 L | +25.0wins | +0.02per pick | 27cpaid | +4.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x2a8c…fd3dbacked Shopify Rebellion | 12c | 4,351$511 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$511.48 | 760 | 30.3%230 W · 530 L | -20.1wins | -0.03per pick | 33cpaid | -14.8%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xfd14…2267backed Shopify Rebellion | 10c | 3,670$377 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$377.2 | 2,367 | 31.9%756 W · 1,611 L | +41.4wins | +0.02per pick | 30cpaid | +3.5%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x8725…eb10backed Shopify Rebellion | 14c | 3,482$478 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$477.71 | 2,240 | 37.3%836 W · 1,404 L | -31.8wins | -0.01per pick | 39cpaid | -9.9%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x6e01…2c8abacked Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 3,185$478 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$477.78 | 148 | 40.5%60 W · 88 L | -5.0wins | -0.03per pick | 44cpaid | -4.7%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x2b42…62afbacked Shopify Rebellion | 6c | 3,137$188 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$188.22 | 345 | 36.5%126 W · 219 L | -1.8wins | -0.01per pick | 37cpaid | -3.8%equal weight | 490.00 edge/pick |
| 0x3f97…4059backed Shopify Rebellion | 8c | 3,090$246 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$246.16 | 1,158 | 49.2%570 W · 588 L | -16.6wins | -0.01per pick | 51cpaid | +0.7%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xb8cb…8f46backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 2,944$471 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$471 | 484 | 40.5%196 W · 288 L | -5.8wins | -0.01per pick | 42cpaid | -8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xf02f…1ed8backed Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 2,763$304 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$303.94 | 329 | 41%135 W · 194 L | -4.6wins | -0.01per pick | 42cpaid | -8.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 2,506$276 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$275.7 | 2,364 | 40.7%963 W · 1,401 L | -57.2wins | -0.02per pick | 43cpaid | -11.1%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x5d34…7c8cbacked Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 2,373$356 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$355.88 | 304 | 21.7%66 W · 238 L | -4.7wins | -0.02per pick | 23cpaid | -14.1%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xdbdd…a5debacked Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 1,872$206 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$205.93 | 2,836 | 41.4%1,175 W · 1,661 L | -12.9wins | 0.00per pick | 42cpaid | -4.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x03f4…7e44backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 1,400$224 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$224 | 963 | 50.2%483 W · 480 L | +1.9wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | +0.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xbfee…ed1fbacked Shopify Rebellion | 13c | 1,345$170 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$169.54 | 158 | 21.5%34 W · 124 L | -6.9wins | -0.04per pick | 26cpaid | -34.1%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x9797…c193backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 1,318$211 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$210.93 | 43 | 46.5%20 W · 23 L | +0.2wins | +0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -1.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x26d6…caccbacked Shopify Rebellion | 12c | 1,060$128 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$128.03 | 500 | 41.6%208 W · 292 L | -15.5wins | -0.03per pick | 45cpaid | -33.6%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x58e3…c540backed Shopify Rebellion | 21c | 1,019$209 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$209.2 | 151 | 46.4%70 W · 81 L | +8.0wins | +0.05per pick | 41cpaid | -0.1%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xc4db…7e0cbacked Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 975.08$156 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$155.76 | 1,368 | 37.7%516 W · 852 L | -6.8wins | 0.00per pick | 38cpaid | -4%equal weight | 490.00 edge/pick |
| 0xec98…afcdbacked Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 949.02$143 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$142.64 | 1,603 | 42.4%679 W · 924 L | -18.1wins | -0.01per pick | 43cpaid | -14.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x21ca…3748backed Shopify Rebellion | 12c | 874.68$104 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$104.19 | 65 | 56.9%37 W · 28 L | +1.9wins | +0.03per pick | 54cpaid | +14.6%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xdd80…5ef4backed Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 860.55$95 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$94.66 | 83 | 60.2%50 W · 33 L | +9.6wins | +0.12per pick | 49cpaid | +55.2%equal weight | 60+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x6f67…102cbacked Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 734.37$117 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$117.5 | 181 | 21%38 W · 143 L | -9.4wins | -0.05per pick | 26cpaid | -21.7%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x2d39…6053backed Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 711.75$107 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$106.76 | 859 | 42.7%367 W · 492 L | -14.5wins | -0.02per pick | 44cpaid | -15.3%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x3471…f17ebacked Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 711.75$107 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$106.76 | 1,008 | 42.5%428 W · 580 L | -24.6wins | -0.02per pick | 45cpaid | -19.8%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x812a…73edbacked Shopify Rebellion | 12c | 684.52$82 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$81.51 | 584 | 20.2%118 W · 466 L | -58.1wins | -0.10per pick | 30cpaid | -43%equal weight | 39-0.10 edge/pick |
| 0xc866…8c6dbacked Shopify Rebellion | 17c | 683.03$118 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$117.9 | 330 | 42.4%140 W · 190 L | -9.9wins | -0.03per pick | 45cpaid | -20.9%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x081a…66d0backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 650$104 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$104 | 87 | 43.7%38 W · 49 L | +0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 43cpaid | -7.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x629d…756cbacked Shopify Rebellion | 13c | 607.68$81 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$81.23 | 1,091 | 47.4%517 W · 574 L | -2.1wins | 0.00per pick | 48cpaid | -14.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x5887…994ebacked Shopify Rebellion | 17c | 559.82$94 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$94.07 | 162 | 40.7%66 W · 96 L | -6.8wins | -0.04per pick | 45cpaid | -26.1%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xa8f7…65bebacked Shopify Rebellion | 17c | 556.54$95 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$94.71 | 2 | 50%1 W · 1 L | +0.1wins | +0.05per pick | 45cpaid | -32.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xd96a…d8cebacked Shopify Rebellion | 14c | 553.12$77 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$77.44 | 75 | 12%9 W · 66 L | -7.0wins | -0.09per pick | 21cpaid | -54.8%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x4713…4d21backed Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 518.26$79 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$79 | 3,159 | 33.8%1,068 W · 2,091 L | -152.6wins | -0.05per pick | 39cpaid | -34.5%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x7809…64ccbacked Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 500$75 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$75 | 174 | 31%54 W · 120 L | -0.5wins | 0.00per pick | 31cpaid | +15.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xb777…3ff9backed Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 463$69 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$69.45 | 67 | 46.3%31 W · 36 L | -1.6wins | -0.02per pick | 49cpaid | -5.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x5f22…0fb4backed Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 430.27$47 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$47.33 | 118 | 59.3%70 W · 48 L | +11.0wins | +0.09per pick | 50cpaid | +39.7%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x4ffd…7821backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 428.81$70 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$70.06 | 780 | 43.1%336 W · 444 L | -22.3wins | -0.03per pick | 46cpaid | -25.4%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb6ec…069ebacked Shopify Rebellion | 8c | 428.57$36 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$36.39 | 21 | 23.8%5 W · 16 L | -3.7wins | -0.18per pick | 42cpaid | -57.9%equal weight | 41-0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x0b45…ac9fbacked Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 402.88$66 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$65.82 | 422 | 50%211 W · 211 L | +2.9wins | +0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -9.6%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xc602…7fc1backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 395$63 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$63.2 | 197 | 44.2%87 W · 110 L | -4.8wins | -0.02per pick | 47cpaid | -10.5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xafba…a754backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 302.69$48 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$48.43 | 353 | 23.2%82 W · 271 L | +6.2wins | +0.02per pick | 21cpaid | +7.6%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xa74a…4893backed Shopify Rebellion | 6c | 284.48$18 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$17.78 | 441 | 29.5%130 W · 311 L | -45.9wins | -0.10per pick | 40cpaid | -48%equal weight | 39-0.10 edge/pick |
| 0x3aba…debfbacked Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 272.78$29 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$28.79 | 64 | 25%16 W · 48 L | +1.1wins | +0.02per pick | 23cpaid | -11.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xadfb…c2efbacked Shopify Rebellion | 17c | 261$44 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$44.37 | 401 | 45.4%182 W · 219 L | -12.5wins | -0.03per pick | 49cpaid | -9.9%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xd3e7…bf64backed Shopify Rebellion | 6c | 250$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15 | 1,182 | 44.8%530 W · 652 L | +11.6wins | +0.01per pick | 44cpaid | -1.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x98a5…d074backed Shopify Rebellion | 17c | 238.85$41 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$41.14 | 230 | 32.2%74 W · 156 L | +9.8wins | +0.04per pick | 28cpaid | -12.7%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x7edb…7993backed Shopify Rebellion | 5c | 216.59$10 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.22 | 464 | 36.4%169 W · 295 L | -24.1wins | -0.05per pick | 42cpaid | -39.9%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x661d…4dc6backed LYON | 78c | 200$155 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$45 | 1,025 | 39.6%406 W · 619 L | -20.4wins | -0.02per pick | 42cpaid | -19.5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xe4a1…3a92backed Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 172.11$19 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$18.93 | 8 | 25%2 W · 6 L | -2.2wins | -0.27per pick | 52cpaid | -64.9%equal weight | 43-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xce41…c2c2backed Shopify Rebellion | 9c | 164.56$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14.19 | 30 | 43.3%13 W · 17 L | -0.3wins | -0.01per pick | 44cpaid | -20.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x596a…7a0fbacked Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 156.59$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$23.49 | 1,241 | 34.7%431 W · 810 L | -2.0wins | 0.00per pick | 35cpaid | -5.6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x8bb7…9185backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 153$24 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$24.48 | 4 | 75%3 W · 1 L | +1.2wins | +0.29per pick | 46cpaid | +46.6%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x5d05…f729backed Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 151.09$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$22.66 | 312 | 42.6%133 W · 179 L | -6.0wins | -0.02per pick | 45cpaid | -16.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xa2fa…97debacked Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 145$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$23.2 | 8 | 50%4 W · 4 L | +0.9wins | +0.12per pick | 38cpaid | +25.8%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x07e3…37b1backed Shopify Rebellion | 17c | 139.73$24 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$23.75 | 24 | 33.3%8 W · 16 L | -1.7wins | -0.07per pick | 41cpaid | -35.1%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xb50c…2f91backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 135$22 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$21.6 | 8 | 37.5%3 W · 5 L | -0.5wins | -0.07per pick | 44cpaid | -37.1%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xb4d2…ce99backed Shopify Rebellion | 18c | 132.51$24 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$23.85 | 2,237 | 33.3%745 W · 1,492 L | -71.3wins | -0.03per pick | 36cpaid | -21.3%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb01d…46f0backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 118.7$19 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$18.99 | 78 | 33.3%26 W · 52 L | +2.2wins | +0.03per pick | 31cpaid | +13.7%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x5252…a7cdbacked Shopify Rebellion | 13c | 117.62$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15.18 | 644 | 35.4%228 W · 416 L | -28.0wins | -0.04per pick | 40cpaid | -22.1%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x5df5…c44cbacked Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 108.93$17 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$16.64 | 348 | 34.2%119 W · 229 L | -39.9wins | -0.11per pick | 46cpaid | -42.2%equal weight | 38-0.11 edge/pick |
| 0x43d7…1c75backed Shopify Rebellion | 14c | 104.32$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14.69 | 249 | 41.4%103 W · 146 L | +3.5wins | +0.01per pick | 40cpaid | +4.6%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x6dc0…699abacked Shopify Rebellion | 11c | 104.12$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11.39 | 563 | 17.2%97 W · 466 L | -16.4wins | -0.03per pick | 20cpaid | -17.2%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xe2cc…893cbacked LYON | 80c | 97.53$78 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.51 | 344 | 42.2%145 W · 199 L | -17.5wins | -0.05per pick | 47cpaid | -21.7%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x2ecb…7645backed LYON | 80c | 79.55$64 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.91 | 1,730 | 29.5%510 W · 1,220 L | -123.2wins | -0.07per pick | 37cpaid | -39.1%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x19bd…ae36backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 72.95$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11.67 | 17 | 23.5%4 W · 13 L | -3.6wins | -0.21per pick | 45cpaid | -59.9%equal weight | 41-0.08 edge/pick |
| 0xe8de…ed08backed Shopify Rebellion | 20c | 71.4$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14.28 | 122 | 20.5%25 W · 97 L | -1.1wins | -0.01per pick | 21cpaid | +2.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x741d…e409backed Shopify Rebellion | 15c | 67.05$10 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.12 | 1 | 0%0 W · 1 L | -0.2wins | -0.15per pick | 15cpaid | -100%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x2294…4cd3backed Shopify Rebellion | 16c | 65.52$10 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.48 | 48 | 43.8%21 W · 27 L | -1.8wins | -0.04per pick | 48cpaid | -13.4%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x14a5…f2cbbacked Shopify Rebellion | 20c | 50$10 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10 | 10 | 0%0 W · 10 L | -3.6wins | -0.36per pick | 36cpaid | -100%equal weight | 38-0.10 edge/pick |
| 0xbe87…2065backed LYON | 80c | 29.19$23 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5.84 | 47 | 70.2%33 W · 14 L | -1.8wins | -0.04per pick | 74cpaid | -4.3%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xdd77…ef21backed LYON | 80c | 25$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5 | 153 | 70.6%108 W · 45 L | +10.0wins | +0.07per pick | 64cpaid | +8.8%equal weight | 56+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xa9f5…937fbacked LYON | 77c | 24$18 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5.64 | 2,707 | 35.9%972 W · 1,735 L | -152.3wins | -0.06per pick | 42cpaid | -31.9%equal weight | 44-0.06 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- LoL: LYON vs Shopify Rebellion (BO3) - LCS Regular Seasonthis page
- Game Handicap: LY (-1.5) vs Shopify Rebellion (+1.5)LYON won
- Games Total: O/U 2.5Under won
- LoL: LYON vs Shopify Rebellion - Game 1 WinnerLYON won
- LoL: LYON vs Shopify Rebellion - Game 2 WinnerLYON won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.