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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Trail Blazers (-13.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Trail Blazersof Trail Blazers, Bucks
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$66,947

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $66,947 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 121 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x9ae8…c2a8backed Bucks49c23,524$11,425 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,425.4524053.8%129 W · 111 L+12.5wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+11%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xb2a4…cf8abacked Bucks45c12,859$5,765 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,765.0824744.1%109 W · 138 L-10.8wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-10.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8f03…64d6backed Trail Blazers51c12,822$6,539 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,282.831,04651.1%534 W · 512 L-0.7wins0.00per pick51cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x37c1…c53abacked Trail Blazers55c7,282$4,005 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,276.991,91549.3%944 W · 971 L+19.7wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x93ab…9723backed Trail Blazers48c6,670$3,202 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,468.460351.4%310 W · 293 L+16.3wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+2.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xce39…04d6backed Bucks43c4,435$1,920 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,919.8837842.9%162 W · 216 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-1.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x2a2c…9bc1backed Trail Blazers57c3,682$2,099 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,583.2666248.5%321 W · 341 L-0.6wins0.00per pick49cpaid-8.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Trail Blazers55c3,490$1,925 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,564.994,68249.6%2,324 W · 2,358 L+27.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb9b4…75a0backed Trail Blazers52c3,269$1,700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,569.238154.3%44 W · 37 L+3.6wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+9.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Trail Blazers63c2,346$1,470 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$875.628,98847.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L+96.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5628…abbcbacked Trail Blazers52c2,000$1,040 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$96087049.3%429 W · 441 L+1.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf6de…95e8backed Trail Blazers56c2,000$1,120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$88023047%108 W · 122 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-3.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Bucks50c1,744$869 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$869.034,78150.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L+20.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb552…94a8backed Bucks52c1,443$750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$750.362,07853.6%1,113 W · 965 L+44.6wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Bucks49c1,323$648 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$648.415,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5e30…acbfbacked Trail Blazers56c1,244$697 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$547.482,75350.7%1,396 W · 1,357 L+47.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7760…21f0backed Trail Blazers51c1,200$612 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58846145.6%210 W · 251 L-6.7wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xa697…59d5backed Trail Blazers50c971.2$484 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$487.541,90148.7%925 W · 976 L+6.5wins0.00per pick48cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xce26…8e06backed Trail Blazers67c817$547 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$269.6191050.9%463 W · 447 L+11.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1e52…91d6backed Bucks15c745.38$112 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$111.8126638.7%103 W · 163 L-9.9wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-20.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x21f3…35e3backed Bucks50c686.25$340 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$340.292,50748.6%1,219 W · 1,288 L+19.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa070…1af3backed Bucks52c610$317 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$317.23745.9%17 W · 20 L-2.0wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-11.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa578…6702backed Trail Blazers52c580.25$302 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$278.521,15049.5%569 W · 581 L-12.7wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbd04…a64abacked Bucks52c576.92$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30018748.1%90 W · 97 L-5.2wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Trail Blazers52c540.64$282 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$258.294,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xef20…8f64backed Bucks44c526.81$231 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$231.42944.4%4 W · 5 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xacae…6798backed Bucks47c498.96$235 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$234.5111241.1%46 W · 66 L-5.2wins-0.05per pick46cpaid-7.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2302…d6d2backed Trail Blazers57c489.13$278 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$211.271,28650.8%653 W · 633 L+11.2wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2cec…5326backed Bucks49c460.68$226 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$226.3868645.5%312 W · 374 L-22.9wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-7.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2373…a1f3backed Trail Blazers55c458.05$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$208.0556447.9%270 W · 294 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-5.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2f2b…0f9abacked Bucks51c439$224 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$223.8971449.3%352 W · 362 L+2.0wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc3d8…c0f2backed Trail Blazers49c399.99$196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2047346.6%34 W · 39 L-2.0wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-8.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x01c7…e995backed Bucks50c389.45$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$194.853,90247.8%1,864 W · 2,038 L-17.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xb409…03e9backed Trail Blazers63c327.4$206 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$121.143345.5%15 W · 18 L-1.7wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-15.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc51a…a0d9backed Trail Blazers50c312.99$156 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$156.527455.5%152 W · 122 L+15.2wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+9.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x5d24…9c89backed Bucks52c298$155 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$154.9618744.4%83 W · 104 L-10.3wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-13.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xec56…dd09backed Bucks43c291.17$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$125.228348.8%138 W · 145 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb74f…030abacked Bucks52c279.5$145 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1455540%22 W · 33 L-4.0wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-14.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x8c50…2de6backed Bucks52c271$141 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$140.9216845.2%76 W · 92 L-7.0wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-10.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x068c…582ebacked Bucks52c246.15$128 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12814445.8%66 W · 78 L-5.4wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-8.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x94c4…2a41backed Trail Blazers50c229.26$115 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$113.7622953.3%122 W · 107 L+5.4wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdae4…f1fcbacked Trail Blazers50c200.46$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$100.4619054.7%104 W · 86 L+7.6wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+6.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x743a…ddcdbacked Bucks47c200$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$946043.3%26 W · 34 L-2.9wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-10.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x52c6…564dbacked Trail Blazers50c198.04$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98.044254.8%23 W · 19 L+2.2wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+6.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xb996…038cbacked Bucks52c198$103 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.9613148.9%64 W · 67 L-3.2wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-5.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x300d…978fbacked Trail Blazers50c180.73$91 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90.0810752.3%56 W · 51 L+2.7wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+3.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf1ad…6979backed Trail Blazers50c180.38$91 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$89.5557650%288 W · 288 L+1.3wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9b89…99e2backed Trail Blazers52c178.67$93 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$85.7650948.5%247 W · 262 L+2.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc291…5d74backed Bucks46c173.11$79 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$79.011,63341.2%672 W · 961 L+26.3wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xca40…83f6backed Trail Blazers53c162.42$86 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$76.3412945.7%59 W · 70 L-2.2wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-10.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xb390…642bbacked Trail Blazers53c151.85$81 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$70.851,66150.3%836 W · 825 L-14.9wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf4d9…c125backed Bucks52c125$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6520247.5%96 W · 106 L-5.9wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-7.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xec38…ca10backed Bucks52c125$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6511050.9%56 W · 54 L+2.8wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x40d2…312fbacked Bucks51c124.9$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63.728852.1%150 W · 138 L+1.3wins0.00per pick52cpaid+2.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa6df…588cbacked Bucks51c124.84$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63.6722351.6%115 W · 108 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+7.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xedf7…8f79backed Bucks43c116.28$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$501,39348.3%673 W · 720 L+19.4wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x0056…a7f7backed Bucks49c109.32$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54.1160945.8%279 W · 330 L-17.2wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa9a3…f319backed Bucks52c105.77$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$552128.6%6 W · 15 L-4.2wins-0.20per pick49cpaid-55.1%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x03eb…47b0backed Trail Blazers50c95.23$48 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47.4319851%101 W · 97 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2b46…684dbacked Bucks40c94.75$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37.91,64547.5%782 W · 863 L+40.9wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+1.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x3d9d…7d9ebacked Trail Blazers50c94$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47.4710348.5%50 W · 53 L+3.6wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+3.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf18a…e4e5backed Bucks39c93.26$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36.383,55146.8%1,663 W · 1,888 L+1.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid-6.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9fbd…3d15backed Bucks43c93.01$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.9976247.1%359 W · 403 L+2.4wins0.00per pick47cpaid+1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1f16…b5b9backed Trail Blazers49c91.83$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46.839938.4%38 W · 61 L-8.4wins-0.08per pick47cpaid-21.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x37c1…8de1backed Bucks44c90.91$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4027138.7%105 W · 166 L+0.6wins0.00per pick39cpaid+4.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbf4f…63f3backed Trail Blazers50c79.2$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.622746.3%105 W · 122 L-7.5wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-8.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xafaf…1635backed Trail Blazers62c78.86$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.71,03647.6%493 W · 543 L+6.7wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2185…b40cbacked Bucks52c77$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40.0415650.6%79 W · 77 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0f8e…3082backed Trail Blazers57c77$44 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33.112,20846.6%1,030 W · 1,178 L+42.7wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+2.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0d21…08d3backed Trail Blazers50c67.74$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33.7225143%108 W · 143 L-13.6wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-12.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x383d…87eabacked Trail Blazers50c60.49$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30.4947852.9%253 W · 225 L+13.6wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+3.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4d8e…3d55backed Bucks51c58.41$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.8612541.6%52 W · 73 L-9.3wins-0.07per pick49cpaid-17.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x3492…983fbacked Trail Blazers50c57$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.511058.2%64 W · 46 L+5.5wins+0.05per pick53cpaid+7.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x95fc…10f6backed Trail Blazers53c55.62$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.145742.1%24 W · 33 L-3.0wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-14.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x9510…16dfbacked Trail Blazers49c52.47$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.5230453.3%162 W · 142 L+8.6wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0310…4745backed Bucks52c52$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.045147.1%24 W · 27 L-2.2wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-8.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4e4a…4ce0backed Bucks52c52$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.048348.2%40 W · 43 L-2.1wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-6.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x990a…a9cebacked Bucks51c49.05$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.029346.2%43 W · 50 L-3.3wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-8.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0e4a…fcd8backed Trail Blazers58c43.89$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.5525049.6%124 W · 126 L-4.4wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9077…5050backed Trail Blazers50c42.84$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.26633.3%2 W · 4 L-0.8wins-0.13per pick46cpaid-32.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x0fde…0258backed Bucks44c42$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.4849247.2%232 W · 260 L+1.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x891d…b19fbacked Trail Blazers49c42$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.428251.2%42 W · 40 L+1.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+0.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa0c5…4291backed Trail Blazers52c42$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20.2296956.3%546 W · 423 L+26.0wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+5.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8632…4696backed Bucks49c40.05$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.6255347.9%265 W · 288 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xaa10…065abacked Bucks52c40$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20.83354.5%18 W · 15 L+1.2wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfdc6…b20dbacked Bucks44c40$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17.645251.1%231 W · 221 L+1.6wins0.00per pick51cpaid+1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x36aa…a683backed Trail Blazers51c39.38$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.3840548.6%197 W · 208 L+0.6wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6d49…e00abacked Trail Blazers56c39.28$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17.281,53242.5%651 W · 881 L-17.3wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-12.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1d94…9100backed Trail Blazers51c38.86$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.053,12044.7%1,394 W · 1,726 L-7.6wins0.00per pick45cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xefde…6505backed Bucks50c36.21$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.111,56247.4%741 W · 821 L-6.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2a67…ef6bbacked Trail Blazers50c35$17 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17.5526756.2%150 W · 117 L+12.6wins+0.05per pick51cpaid+7.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x91ff…edfdbacked Trail Blazers52c33.78$18 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.2116948.5%82 W · 87 L-6.9wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-9.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x0bad…1d19backed Bucks52c33.3$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17.18650%3 W · 3 L+0.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+13%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Trail Blazers57c33$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.193,59150.1%1,798 W · 1,793 L+21.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x60e4…f926backed Trail Blazers50c32.89$16 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.573458.8%20 W · 14 L+1.8wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+10.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3abf…b143backed Trail Blazers62c32.37$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12.3987744.7%392 W · 485 L-1.7wins0.00per pick45cpaid-13.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7ea5…de7bbacked Bucks50c32.16$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.082,34648.7%1,142 W · 1,204 L-14.3wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8afa…28f0backed Bucks44c31$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.6440750.6%206 W · 201 L+10.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+5.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x9add…d1d5backed Bucks52c30.77$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16650%3 W · 3 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-4.8%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x7baa…03b7backed Trail Blazers57c30.44$17 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13.0933159.2%196 W · 135 L+10.5wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+4.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 18 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.