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Valorant · resolved market

Valorant: Eternal Fire vs Fnatic - Map 1 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Eternal Fireof Eternal Fire, Fnatic
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Valorantevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$242,041
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$249,411

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $242,041 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 109 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Valorant is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Valorant
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf070…ac55backed Fnatic36c37,574$13,582 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,581.5524145.2%109 W · 132 L-11.3wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-10%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Eternal Fire69c12,824$8,893 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,930.581,35839%530 W · 828 L-57.9wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-17%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed Eternal Fire56c10,000$5,646 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,353.4853159.1%314 W · 217 L+41.6wins+0.08per pick51cpaid+7.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Eternal Fire61c8,901$5,447 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,453.5340945.7%187 W · 222 L-6.5wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-19.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Eternal Fire56c5,748$3,209 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,539.0265559.4%389 W · 266 L+50.5wins+0.08per pick52cpaid+6.7%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Eternal Fire54c5,475$2,983 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,492.7568458.3%399 W · 285 L+56.5wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+6.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed Eternal Fire52c3,607$1,875 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,732.1881134.9%283 W · 528 L-60.9wins-0.08per pick42cpaid-34.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed Fnatic43c3,352$1,431 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,431.041,27632.1%409 W · 867 L-67.5wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-28.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xff34…694bbacked Eternal Fire62c2,660$1,649 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,010.4978562.8%493 W · 292 L+56.2wins+0.07per pick56cpaid+7.6%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x0e1b…ecafbacked Fnatic47c2,347$1,096 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,096.3668949.5%341 W · 348 L+15.4wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-7.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed Eternal Fire59c2,129$1,259 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$869.7356357.9%326 W · 237 L+36.3wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+1.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked Fnatic41c2,045$848 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$848.3694361.2%577 W · 366 L+58.2wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Fnatic54c1,704$923 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$922.7122346.6%104 W · 119 L-3.6wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed Eternal Fire60c1,238$743 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$494.8693049.4%459 W · 471 L-0.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x60ec…f7b0backed Eternal Fire48c1,219$588 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$631.4856551.2%289 W · 276 L+6.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6bea…5d50backed Eternal Fire54c1,107$595 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$512.4513449.3%66 W · 68 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-10.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd0ac…7deebacked Eternal Fire54c1,038$559 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$478.881662.5%10 W · 6 L+2.2wins+0.14per pick49cpaid+17.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x64d4…f056backed Fnatic38c1,026$389 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$388.723836.1%86 W · 152 L-7.9wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-23.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked Eternal Fire59c865.51$511 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$354.2253355.3%295 W · 238 L+24.0wins+0.05per pick51cpaid-2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x4873…15babacked Eternal Fire58c689.83$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$289.83955.6%5 W · 4 L+0.1wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+6.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7462…3ac3backed Eternal Fire51c588.24$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$288.246456.3%36 W · 28 L+2.8wins+0.04per pick52cpaid0%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x86df…d902backed Eternal Fire55c576.51$319 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$257.413355.6%74 W · 59 L+7.4wins+0.06per pick50cpaid0%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xf490…63afbacked Fnatic31c500$155 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$154.86636.4%24 W · 42 L-2.4wins-0.04per pick40cpaid-13.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbf33…0353backed Fnatic30c497.22$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15033346.5%155 W · 178 L-10.9wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-12.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc064…6fa8backed Eternal Fire58c469.35$272 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$197.5714454.2%78 W · 66 L-0.1wins0.00per pick54cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x37c1…8de1backed Fnatic36c417.64$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15017853.9%96 W · 82 L+8.9wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+14.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9c4b…8a81backed Fnatic56c413.09$232 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$232.0162156.4%350 W · 271 L+13.0wins+0.02per pick54cpaid-0.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x584f…54b9backed Fnatic68c393$267 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$267.247156.3%40 W · 31 L-2.2wins-0.03per pick59cpaid-2.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5929…4684backed Fnatic39c351.11$136 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$136.381,49046.6%695 W · 795 L-16.1wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-12%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9b16…9f80backed Fnatic45c350$158 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$157.518460.9%112 W · 72 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick60cpaid-1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcc30…c8a5backed Fnatic42c283.1$118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$118.4517332.4%56 W · 117 L-11.2wins-0.06per pick39cpaid-16%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xbb8e…08c1backed Eternal Fire61c279$170 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$109.299846%459 W · 539 L-27.0wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-13.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x67af…61eebacked Fnatic44c276.98$122 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$121.7196245.1%434 W · 528 L-18.9wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-14.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6e54…511ebacked Eternal Fire51c274.55$140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$134.5313741.6%57 W · 80 L-4.2wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-9.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb758…4699backed Fnatic54c270$146 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$145.88852.3%46 W · 42 L+3.1wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+2.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x40e3…5627backed Fnatic51c263.38$134 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$134.3619656.6%111 W · 85 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5b45…362bbacked Eternal Fire39c245.5$96 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$149.767433.8%25 W · 49 L-7.1wins-0.10per pick43cpaid-30.4%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xca7c…e994backed Eternal Fire35c238.51$83 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$155.0363447.9%304 W · 330 L-13.0wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-2.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4967…340bbacked Fnatic53c235.6$124 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$124.467064.3%45 W · 25 L+4.0wins+0.06per pick59cpaid+10.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x505f…645ebacked Fnatic41c211.34$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87.6538548.6%187 W · 198 L+8.0wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-2.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc4fe…601fbacked Fnatic56c206.15$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.3884838.2%324 W · 524 L-50.5wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-24.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed Eternal Fire61c206.03$126 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$80.2351749.5%256 W · 261 L-2.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8b81…613dbacked Eternal Fire71c195$138 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.334542.2%19 W · 26 L-8.2wins-0.18per pick60cpaid-32.7%equal weight37-0.12 edge/pick
0xf1ee…519cbacked Eternal Fire79c190$151 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.21,24749.6%619 W · 628 L-2.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid-7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6505…1feebacked Fnatic40c188.19$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$768654.7%47 W · 39 L+3.8wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+11.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe7b8…31e6backed Eternal Fire40c178.1$71 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$106.8336145.7%165 W · 196 L+22.8wins+0.06per pick39cpaid+14.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xe35b…b542backed Fnatic46c169.4$77 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$77.14966.7%6 W · 3 L+0.6wins+0.06per pick60cpaid+5.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7a41…20bdbacked Eternal Fire60c168$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6812250%61 W · 61 L+7.5wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+21.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xda77…683fbacked Fnatic41c157.3$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64.8390733.1%300 W · 607 L-89.7wins-0.10per pick43cpaid-40.4%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x5f56…348abacked Fnatic43c157.11$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.2724032.1%77 W · 163 L-18.7wins-0.08per pick40cpaid-34.4%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x16ac…e30dbacked Fnatic73c150$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$109.5333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.9wins-0.31per pick64cpaid-48.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa750…0d0fbacked Fnatic46c150$69 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.86747.8%32 W · 35 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-8.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3fcc…9f91backed Fnatic28c145.31$41 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40.9460022.7%136 W · 464 L-26.3wins-0.04per pick27cpaid-36.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf71e…917bbacked Eternal Fire71c141.13$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41.136867.6%46 W · 22 L+3.6wins+0.05per pick62cpaid+11%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xddb6…b9b3backed Eternal Fire68c138$94 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.9674642.8%319 W · 427 L-27.7wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-18.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked Fnatic47c129.66$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.451,60845.2%727 W · 881 L-24.0wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-22.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xd10d…e1e5backed Fnatic68c125.75$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8520%0 W · 2 L-1.0wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xbcda…5e95backed Eternal Fire58c120.14$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.4611457%65 W · 49 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x160a…43d3backed Eternal Fire51c114.84$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.27742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.5wins-0.08per pick51cpaid-18.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7100…c12abacked Eternal Fire72c111.11$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31.114235.7%15 W · 27 L-4.4wins-0.11per pick46cpaid-37.7%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x9562…fbd4backed Fnatic65c110$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.54452.3%23 W · 21 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf3e6…8532backed Fnatic65c107.69$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$703234.4%11 W · 21 L-4.9wins-0.15per pick50cpaid-30.6%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x0b8d…4b6fbacked Fnatic60c100$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$607265.3%47 W · 25 L+6.8wins+0.09per pick56cpaid+12.8%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xb4bf…60f8backed Eternal Fire32c100$32 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$686952.2%36 W · 33 L+1.4wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+7.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x629d…756cbacked Eternal Fire69c95$66 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.1877744%342 W · 435 L-21.3wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-19%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x212b…0ba5backed Eternal Fire55c93.03$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41.578748.3%42 W · 45 L-5.4wins-0.06per pick55cpaid-13.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked Fnatic47c89.76$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41.931,30943.8%573 W · 736 L-44.5wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-19.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5179…4eecbacked Eternal Fire78c82.69$64 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.417642.6%75 W · 101 L-7.1wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-7.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x0844…bf81backed Eternal Fire58c81.52$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$34.5227956.6%158 W · 121 L+9.1wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+7.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x07df…9f0cbacked Eternal Fire50c80.89$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40.534146.3%19 W · 22 L-0.8wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-8.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x775d…6bebbacked Fnatic61c80.72$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.9270043.7%306 W · 394 L-13.7wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-15.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5dc8…e209backed Eternal Fire59c80.18$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33.138251.2%42 W · 40 L-3.5wins-0.04per pick56cpaid-4.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xb91c…ed66backed Fnatic54c73.62$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.6924140.2%97 W · 144 L-5.0wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-3.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xade6…c465backed Eternal Fire62c68.8$42 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.3165347.3%309 W · 344 L-18.2wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-15.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x5210…bd53backed Eternal Fire32c65.15$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.366650.8%338 W · 328 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-2.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6bc1…3f1cbacked Eternal Fire39c65$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.9520051.5%103 W · 97 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-0.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd991…0133backed Fnatic64c62.38$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4011559.1%68 W · 47 L-3.6wins-0.03per pick62cpaid-7.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb14c…7355backed Fnatic45c55.89$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$256735.8%24 W · 43 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-16.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5b55…cbc6backed Eternal Fire50c52.7$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.434257.1%24 W · 18 L+3.0wins+0.07per pick50cpaid+11%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xeeb6…052dbacked Eternal Fire48c52.44$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27.441656.3%9 W · 7 L+0.5wins+0.03per pick53cpaid-3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2c78…aad1backed Fnatic57c52.41$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.937156.3%40 W · 31 L-1.8wins-0.03per pick59cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe8e0…7eecbacked Fnatic48c52$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.0757151%291 W · 280 L+16.2wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-4.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x664a…fc5fbacked Eternal Fire56c50.02$28 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.8450944.6%227 W · 282 L-9.8wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-18.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4fb1…b109backed Eternal Fire48c50$24 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2618254.4%99 W · 83 L+22.3wins+0.12per pick42cpaid+27.9%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0xf4f8…5bf1backed Eternal Fire59c47$28 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.2766438.1%253 W · 411 L-31.8wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-21.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe598…e597backed Fnatic49c45.67$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.373852.6%20 W · 18 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-5.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x520a…ade0backed Fnatic56c44.82$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25862.5%5 W · 3 L+0.7wins+0.08per pick54cpaid+45.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5b62…d87fbacked Eternal Fire38c41.76$16 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.8926450%132 W · 132 L-0.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8d43…3f6cbacked Fnatic73c41.1$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$309965.7%65 W · 34 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick67cpaid-1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf1f2…8c8dbacked Fnatic39c39.87$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.4238950.6%197 W · 192 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-8.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5183…d4dabacked Fnatic68c39.85$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.1560%3 W · 2 L-0.3wins-0.06per pick66cpaid+9.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x93b6…5d73backed Fnatic43c39.53$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$171833.3%6 W · 12 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick34cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0ab6…4880backed Fnatic52c38.46$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2020547.8%98 W · 107 L+5.7wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+1.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xde55…1d2abacked Eternal Fire76c37.03$28 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8.945466.7%36 W · 18 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick65cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcb6b…604ebacked Eternal Fire61c36$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.0433947.8%162 W · 177 L+10.8wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+11.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5c80…e19bbacked Eternal Fire58c32.3$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13.553066.7%20 W · 10 L+3.3wins+0.11per pick56cpaid+25.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x6cdf…58e1backed Eternal Fire56c30.51$17 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13.497753.2%41 W · 36 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick54cpaid+0.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe6cd…e027backed Fnatic40c30$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.927847.1%131 W · 147 L+0.7wins0.00per pick47cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1ed1…fd2abacked Eternal Fire40c30$12 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.1222440.2%90 W · 134 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-2.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa658…f93ebacked Eternal Fire72c27.78$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7.7827360.1%164 W · 109 L-10.7wins-0.04per pick64cpaid-5.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Valorant and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 7 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.