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NHL · resolved market

Blue Jackets vs. Senators

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Blue Jacketsof Blue Jackets, Senators
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NHLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$233,322
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$237,298

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $233,322 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 216 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NHL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NHL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xd0b4…fed6backed Senators67c73,202$49,046 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49,045.6115953.5%85 W · 74 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick54cpaid+1.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x16b2…a881backed Blue Jackets33c37,485$12,370 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25,114.8488151.2%451 W · 430 L+10.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xff7a…4c4cbacked Senators66c28,743$18,957 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18,957.174247.6%20 W · 22 L-1.0wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-4.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x52b4…34a8backed Blue Jackets34c14,364$4,848 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,515.6422150.2%111 W · 110 L+8.4wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+11.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd696…8a49backed Blue Jackets33c12,457$4,149 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,307.9351452.3%269 W · 245 L+17.1wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+7.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xb875…68a8backed Blue Jackets33c7,524$2,483 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,041.0824654.5%134 W · 112 L+9.2wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+9.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9731…9b35backed Senators66c7,175$4,741 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,741.0893953.6%503 W · 436 L+29.6wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Blue Jackets47c7,069$3,333 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,736.291,30152.6%684 W · 617 L+23.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Senators66c7,000$4,620 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,619.9989547%421 W · 474 L-18.0wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1117…3532backed Blue Jackets33c5,000$1,650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,35056649.5%280 W · 286 L-7.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x226b…cad6backed Blue Jackets34c5,000$1,700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,3008134.6%28 W · 53 L-5.6wins-0.07per pick42cpaid-4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x8bd8…f306backed Blue Jackets33c5,000$1,650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,35031654.7%173 W · 143 L+14.7wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+9.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9c4d…168cbacked Blue Jackets34c5,000$1,720 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,2801,08745.1%490 W · 597 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc8b4…f05dbacked Senators67c4,842$3,220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,219.9919555.4%108 W · 87 L+9.2wins+0.05per pick51cpaid+8.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Blue Jackets34c4,840$1,656 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,184.171,94849.4%962 W · 986 L+24.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Senators27c4,790$1,298 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,297.6889636.9%331 W · 565 L-30.9wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-26.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x33f6…e0debacked Blue Jackets34c4,715$1,606 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,109.141668.8%11 W · 5 L+3.1wins+0.19per pick49cpaid+40.8%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0xfb68…a240backed Senators68c4,599$3,111 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,110.8850049.6%248 W · 252 L+16.4wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfbf3…b218backed Blue Jackets65c4,428$2,869 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,558.7811745.3%53 W · 64 L-0.2wins0.00per pick45cpaid+5.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0eb3…f766backed Blue Jackets34c4,412$1,482 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,929.5654047.6%257 W · 283 L-15.9wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-5.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7b2c…af48backed Blue Jackets35c4,305$1,516 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,789.0931851.9%165 W · 153 L+4.9wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x360d…5e0fbacked Senators50c3,972$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,000.184032.5%13 W · 27 L-8.5wins-0.21per pick54cpaid-39.6%equal weight36-0.13 edge/pick
0xd1a8…1b66backed Blue Jackets33c3,750$1,238 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,512.512250%61 W · 61 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Blue Jackets70c3,156$2,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$956.051,34554.8%737 W · 608 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xedf0…1e2abacked Blue Jackets35c3,099$1,085 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,014.3514940.9%61 W · 88 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x56c2…17bfbacked Blue Jackets33c3,000$990 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,01025447.2%120 W · 134 L-1.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid-4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x96ca…5a71backed Blue Jackets35c2,857$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,857.1455446.4%257 W · 297 L-0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbb0d…187bbacked Blue Jackets34c2,800$952 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,848944.4%4 W · 5 L-0.4wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-5.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Blue Jackets44c2,709$1,198 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,510.492,11242.9%907 W · 1,205 L-10.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid-9.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x66c9…2e68backed Blue Jackets77c2,587$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$586.694778.7%37 W · 10 L+3.7wins+0.08per pick71cpaid+10.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x371a…34b0backed Senators1c2,444$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.447450.7%5 W · 740 L-13.2wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-94.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc660…bd28backed Senators65c2,343$1,523 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,522.6848549.7%241 W · 244 L+3.7wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x57a8…6933backed Blue Jackets33c2,205$728 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,477.3538844.6%173 W · 215 L-17.1wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xd4da…3175backed Blue Jackets34c2,089$710 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,378.9628251.8%146 W · 136 L+8.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1867…92cabacked Senators67c1,917$1,284 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,284.2912245.9%56 W · 66 L-6.2wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-13.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x96bc…7fb4backed Blue Jackets33c1,900$627 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,27324845.2%112 W · 136 L+9.5wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+9.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Blue Jackets47c1,862$875 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$987.3538738%147 W · 240 L-13.9wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-28.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x0a7e…fce4backed Blue Jackets33c1,856$618 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,238.1951044.5%227 W · 283 L+7.0wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc922…2618backed Senators67c1,700$1,139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,1397750.6%39 W · 38 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-2.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Blue Jackets73c1,668$1,217 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$451.81,67954.4%914 W · 765 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3e04…564dbacked Blue Jackets35c1,574$551 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,023.151,89152.4%991 W · 900 L+36.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x164f…deb3backed Senators67c1,500$1,005 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00525446.5%118 W · 136 L-12.6wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-10.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf2c2…4de7backed Senators65c1,500$975 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97538046.6%177 W · 203 L+3.2wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+6.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd868…c947backed Senators67c1,450$972 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$971.5425%1 W · 3 L-1.2wins-0.29per pick54cpaid-51.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8f80…291ebacked Senators67c1,350$905 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$904.530%0 W · 3 L-1.6wins-0.55per pick55cpaid-100%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x019e…af1dbacked Senators66c1,333$880 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$879.785154.9%28 W · 23 L-0.2wins0.00per pick55cpaid-2.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x23c8…f293backed Blue Jackets57c1,200$686 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$514.197162%44 W · 27 L+4.4wins+0.06per pick56cpaid+14.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x42b5…b5b6backed Senators63c1,134$712 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$711.781,37749.1%676 W · 701 L+39.2wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xba26…23c9backed Senators67c1,100$733 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$732.711,14350.8%581 W · 562 L+11.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5bc4…f44fbacked Senators66c1,100$729 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$728.9968449.9%341 W · 343 L-3.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Senators65c1,097$713 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$713.0579350.1%397 W · 396 L-11.5wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-3.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xf641…7b6fbacked Blue Jackets55c1,046$574 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$471.6652172.6%378 W · 143 L+36.7wins+0.07per pick66cpaid+9.9%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xf5d4…a077backed Blue Jackets34c1,039$353 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$685.7425045.2%113 W · 137 L+13.2wins+0.05per pick40cpaid+13.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x5d59…639dbacked Blue Jackets39c1,010$394 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$616.11100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.61per pick39cpaid+156.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x977a…f2cabacked Senators1c1,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101,1632.3%27 W · 1,136 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick3cpaid-87.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6ea8…ddc0backed Senators67c1,000$670 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6706341.3%26 W · 37 L-6.8wins-0.11per pick52cpaid-21.9%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xbd09…a188backed Blue Jackets34c1,000$340 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66061748.5%299 W · 318 L+0.4wins0.00per pick48cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x87f6…f078backed Blue Jackets33c900$297 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$603580%4 W · 1 L+1.8wins+0.37per pick43cpaid+96.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x4c25…c3bebacked Senators67c900$603 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60324945.4%113 W · 136 L-16.4wins-0.07per pick52cpaid-11.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x0e87…2171backed Blue Jackets77c893.47$684 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$209.9615360.8%93 W · 60 L+5.8wins+0.04per pick57cpaid+2.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9841…61c8backed Blue Jackets34c889$302 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$586.74475%3 W · 1 L+0.8wins+0.21per pick54cpaid+63.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x29c0…efaabacked Senators64c871.38$561 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$560.721,63650.4%825 W · 811 L-20.9wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc760…a21abacked Blue Jackets37c830$307 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$522.91361.5%8 W · 5 L+1.7wins+0.13per pick49cpaid+44.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xd6f4…0566backed Blue Jackets41c821.96$337 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$485.0495049.1%466 W · 484 L+12.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa609…a3d9backed Senators65c800.33$523 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$523.376750.7%34 W · 33 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6eb0…a15cbacked Senators6c800$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4560%0 W · 6 L-0.4wins-0.07per pick7cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x57ba…2481backed Blue Jackets34c799.9$275 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$524.9313554.1%73 W · 62 L+5.8wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+10.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x89f3…dfffbacked Senators41c784.89$323 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$323.1129926.4%79 W · 220 L-20.5wins-0.07per pick33cpaid-35.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x84f7…ade1backed Blue Jackets33c748$247 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$501.161,02448.4%496 W · 528 L+1.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-2.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4d3a…64b7backed Senators67c708.96$475 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47512041.7%50 W · 70 L-10.9wins-0.09per pick51cpaid-18.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xc4a6…6d23backed Blue Jackets35c688.71$241 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$447.6628853.1%153 W · 135 L+14.6wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+11.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x7c33…30d9backed Senators64c623.4$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$399.82366.7%2 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.06per pick73cpaid-13.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x28c7…4f69backed Blue Jackets34c618$210 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$407.88450%2 W · 2 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick51cpaid+18.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Senators8c605.34$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.4362951.2%322 W · 307 L+18.5wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe4fc…8af7backed Blue Jackets33c599.98$198 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$401.9960249.5%298 W · 304 L-5.5wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x19f8…98f9backed Senators67c598.55$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40041757.3%239 W · 178 L-2.8wins-0.01per pick58cpaid-0.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x57b9…e9b4backed Blue Jackets34c588.24$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$388.2419353.9%104 W · 89 L+6.4wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+6.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3f5e…ddaabacked Blue Jackets35c571.7$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$371.620643.2%89 W · 117 L-0.9wins0.00per pick44cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9a6e…35b4backed Senators66c500$331 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33135245.2%159 W · 193 L-19.2wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-9.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xbad2…5296backed Blue Jackets34c500$170 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33089249.9%445 W · 447 L+10.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4fc1…ec92backed Senators65c499.98$325 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$324.9954349.5%269 W · 274 L+2.4wins0.00per pick49cpaid+2.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x954e…927fbacked Senators67c447.76$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30013946.8%65 W · 74 L-6.8wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-9.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xffd0…93fcbacked Senators67c447.76$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30012445.2%56 W · 68 L-8.3wins-0.07per pick52cpaid-13.8%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x3920…23e7backed Blue Jackets34c441.18$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$291.1839649.5%196 W · 200 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5487…a014backed Senators66c438$289 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$289.0884953.8%457 W · 392 L+20.9wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x4a1a…4f77backed Blue Jackets35c406.09$142 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$263.9638645.1%174 W · 212 L+2.6wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8861…e19fbacked Blue Jackets36c388.89$140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$248.8917753.1%94 W · 83 L+6.7wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+11.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xa04b…6698backed Blue Jackets34c357$121 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$235.62366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.17per pick50cpaid+72.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x45ef…2244backed Blue Jackets34c328$112 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$216.48333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.16per pick49cpaid-2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa5dd…94cdbacked Blue Jackets34c326$111 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$215.16475%3 W · 1 L+0.9wins+0.24per pick52cpaid+72.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe756…e006backed Blue Jackets34c310$105 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$204.6944.4%4 W · 5 L+1.1wins+0.12per pick32cpaid+101.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd397…5052backed Blue Jackets66c303.05$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$103.046061.7%37 W · 23 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6479…5e64backed Blue Jackets34c300$102 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19820651%105 W · 101 L+3.6wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+5.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xce6d…28b5backed Senators66c299.98$198 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$197.9974951.8%388 W · 361 L+18.8wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x15e3…009fbacked Senators66c299.98$198 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$197.9938857.2%222 W · 166 L+8.8wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+4.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1193…bbc7backed Senators65c284.62$185 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1852147.6%10 W · 11 L-1.7wins-0.08per pick56cpaid-12.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x1dc8…4c1dbacked Senators64c280$179 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$179.212941.9%54 W · 75 L-2.2wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-2.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Blue Jackets47c279.01$131 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$147.8799638.2%380 W · 616 L-10.3wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-12.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Senators47c275.34$128 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$128.331,35452.6%712 W · 642 L+46.2wins+0.03per pick49cpaid-8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe36a…d049backed Blue Jackets34c264.71$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$174.719550.5%48 W · 47 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+7.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NHL and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.