Europa Conference League · resolved market
Will Lille win on 2025-10-02?
https://tailmypicks.com/m/0x5dc7f51000787b5e32baf2cfac5a3a73417e4e872ce9b6dc1c24799042ec70f2
Rebuilt .
What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- Yesof Yes, No
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- Europa Conference Leagueevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $358,935
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $366,411
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $358,935 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 83 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Europa Conference League is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in Europa Conference League | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0x7bde…8c91backed No | 52c | 266,237$138,355 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$138,354.68 | 4 | 25%1 W · 3 L | -1.1wins | -0.27per pick | 52cpaid | -52.8%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x204f…5e14backed Yes | 46c | 149,254$69,059 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$80,194.85 | 3,726 | 47%1,750 W · 1,976 L | +20.0wins | +0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -8.8%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xea64…f2a2backed Yes | 48c | 59,393$28,508 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$30,884.71 | 37 | 48.6%18 W · 19 L | -1.6wins | -0.04per pick | 53cpaid | -10.6%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xdf2e…ddecbacked Yes | 19c | 30,741$5,840 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$24,901.03 | 122 | 69.7%85 W · 37 L | +14.5wins | +0.12per pick | 58cpaid | +24.7%equal weight | 61+0.10 edge/pick |
| 0x3993…cdedbacked Yes | 48c | 28,951$13,957 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$14,994.14 | 22 | 45.5%10 W · 12 L | -1.0wins | -0.04per pick | 50cpaid | -8.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xc996…bb65backed Yes | 48c | 25,575$12,195 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13,380 | 87 | 55.2%48 W · 39 L | +7.3wins | +0.08per pick | 47cpaid | +18.1%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x4d67…7a40backed No | 80c | 8,000$6,400 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$6,400 | 1 | 0%0 W · 1 L | -0.8wins | -0.80per pick | 80cpaid | -100%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x0a7e…fce4backed Yes | 17c | 3,000$510 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$2,489.99 | 140 | 42.1%59 W · 81 L | +3.3wins | +0.02per pick | 40cpaid | +10.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x6b7c…5f83backed No | 52c | 2,494$1,291 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,291.13 | 122 | 47.5%58 W · 64 L | -0.5wins | 0.00per pick | 48cpaid | -17.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x2005…75eabacked No | 37c | 2,187$817 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$816.9 | 2,990 | 42.5%1,270 W · 1,720 L | +9.4wins | 0.00per pick | 42cpaid | -11.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x90ba…63f3backed Yes | 19c | 2,049$389 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,659.99 | 260 | 22.3%58 W · 202 L | +3.8wins | +0.01per pick | 21cpaid | +9.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xd589…27c2backed Yes | 48c | 2,000$960 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,040 | 22 | 45.5%10 W · 12 L | -0.2wins | -0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -1.4%equal weight | 490.00 edge/pick |
| 0xf699…07e1backed Yes | 29c | 1,000$290 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$710 | 121 | 66.9%81 W · 40 L | +17.2wins | +0.14per pick | 53cpaid | +29.8%equal weight | 63+0.12 edge/pick |
| 0xb701…7cf6backed Yes | 20c | 1,000$200 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$800 | 42 | 35.7%15 W · 27 L | +1.8wins | +0.04per pick | 31cpaid | +9.1%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xc291…bbcbbacked No | 40c | 973.08$388 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$388.25 | 3 | 33.3%1 W · 2 L | -0.5wins | -0.17per pick | 50cpaid | -49.5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x85c7…1db7backed Yes | 40c | 937$375 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$562.2 | 1 | 100%1 W · 0 L | +0.6wins | +0.60per pick | 40cpaid | +150%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x7c15…73b3backed Yes | 23c | 862.5$200 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$662.5 | 4 | 75%3 W · 1 L | +1.0wins | +0.24per pick | 51cpaid | +93%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x71cd…912dbacked Yes | 4c | 837.39$33 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$803.89 | 55 | 27.3%15 W · 40 L | +4.4wins | +0.08per pick | 19cpaid | +224.8%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xb263…6275backed No | 55c | 608.88$336 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$336 | 6 | 33.3%2 W · 4 L | -1.0wins | -0.16per pick | 50cpaid | +8.1%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x683a…3b03backed Yes | 50c | 569.66$285 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$284.83 | 4 | 50%2 W · 2 L | 0.0wins | +0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -9.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x5adf…a5e7backed Yes | 18c | 512.78$91 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$422.1 | 27 | 40.7%11 W · 16 L | +2.7wins | +0.10per pick | 31cpaid | +45.7%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x663b…6a3ebacked Yes | 48c | 468.83$225 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$243.79 | 4 | 100%4 W · 0 L | +2.0wins | +0.50per pick | 50cpaid | +99.8%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xbbe8…0fedbacked No | 43c | 456.28$198 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$198.3 | 200 | 42%84 W · 116 L | -6.1wins | -0.03per pick | 45cpaid | -17.4%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xad18…0b4fbacked No | 49c | 430.32$212 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$212.19 | 62 | 41.9%26 W · 36 L | -0.3wins | -0.01per pick | 42cpaid | -6.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x6d01…0ab1backed Yes | 20c | 300$60 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$240 | 103 | 32%33 W · 70 L | -5.8wins | -0.06per pick | 38cpaid | -17.3%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x74f1…16a8backed No | 19c | 282.88$54 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$53.75 | 16 | 18.8%3 W · 13 L | -0.4wins | -0.03per pick | 21cpaid | -40.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x2129…4222backed Yes | 32c | 271.82$86 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$185.34 | 245 | 57.6%141 W · 104 L | +11.1wins | +0.05per pick | 53cpaid | +9.7%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xfe78…db98backed No | 57c | 264.91$151 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$151 | 13 | 69.2%9 W · 4 L | +2.9wins | +0.22per pick | 47cpaid | +48.8%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x43cb…4bccbacked Yes | 54c | 248.15$134 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$114.15 | 32 | 37.5%12 W · 20 L | -1.8wins | -0.06per pick | 43cpaid | -16.2%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xc7f7…2abfbacked Yes | 17c | 225.64$39 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$186.16 | 197 | 36%71 W · 126 L | +9.3wins | +0.05per pick | 31cpaid | +16.9%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xd035…f165backed No | 13c | 216.55$29 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$28.63 | 23 | 43.5%10 W · 13 L | +2.1wins | +0.09per pick | 34cpaid | -9.3%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xfeb4…0c34backed Yes | 77c | 200$154 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$46 | 26 | 46.2%12 W · 14 L | -0.1wins | -0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -9.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x45d1…7017backed No | 79c | 200$158 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$158 | 69 | 42%29 W · 40 L | -3.4wins | -0.05per pick | 47cpaid | -7%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x844b…c765backed Yes | 76c | 172.82$132 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$41.02 | 1 | 100%1 W · 0 L | +0.2wins | +0.24per pick | 76cpaid | +31.1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xad4f…b0bcbacked Yes | 60c | 166.67$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$66.67 | 2 | 100%2 W · 0 L | +0.8wins | +0.40per pick | 60cpaid | +65.3%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xa66e…3430backed Yes | 19c | 157.89$30 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$127.89 | 6 | 66.7%4 W · 2 L | +1.3wins | +0.21per pick | 45cpaid | +84%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xc9d1…2b9ebacked No | 60c | 149.15$89 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$89.49 | 23 | 47.8%11 W · 12 L | -0.1wins | -0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -4.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xcc81…0ababacked Yes | 19c | 131.58$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$106.58 | 75 | 21.3%16 W · 59 L | -3.6wins | -0.05per pick | 26cpaid | -9.8%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x641b…6116backed Yes | 43c | 128.95$55 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$73.5 | 12 | 58.3%7 W · 5 L | +1.6wins | +0.13per pick | 45cpaid | +22.2%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x5543…4195backed Yes | 19c | 110.53$21 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$89.53 | 7 | 28.6%2 W · 5 L | 0.0wins | 0.00per pick | 29cpaid | +34.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x5a61…2accbacked Yes | 48c | 110.38$53 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$57.4 | 12 | 66.7%8 W · 4 L | +3.3wins | +0.28per pick | 39cpaid | +50.9%equal weight | 60+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x4cb5…8b87backed Yes | 19c | 105.26$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$85.26 | 6 | 50%3 W · 3 L | +1.1wins | +0.19per pick | 31cpaid | +61.9%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xb125…69ebbacked No | 10c | 103$10 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.3 | 26 | 26.9%7 W · 19 L | +2.2wins | +0.09per pick | 18cpaid | -33%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xdcfe…44b5backed Yes | 48c | 102.01$49 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$52.96 | 45 | 51.1%23 W · 22 L | +0.3wins | +0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -13.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x9fd7…2a14backed No | 80c | 100$80 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$80 | 2 | 50%1 W · 1 L | -0.6wins | -0.30per pick | 80cpaid | -36.7%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x346e…1eb7backed Yes | 19c | 100$19 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$81 | 19 | 57.9%11 W · 8 L | +2.1wins | +0.11per pick | 47cpaid | +26.6%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x8dcf…146ebacked No | 49c | 100$49 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$49 | 6 | 16.7%1 W · 5 L | -1.1wins | -0.19per pick | 36cpaid | -76.5%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x0754…4955backed No | 57c | 87.72$50 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$50 | 5 | 20%1 W · 4 L | -1.1wins | -0.21per pick | 41cpaid | -31%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xd306…f9e9backed No | 80c | 76$61 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$60.8 | 2 | 0%0 W · 2 L | -1.5wins | -0.73per pick | 73cpaid | -100%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x4644…a2b6backed Yes | 45c | 75.56$34 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$41.56 | 2 | 50%1 W · 1 L | +0.2wins | +0.08per pick | 42cpaid | +11.1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x2f1a…7c47backed No | 60c | 66.67$40 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$40 | 84 | 53.6%45 W · 39 L | +0.4wins | +0.01per pick | 53cpaid | +1.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xf102…1348backed Yes | 18c | 56$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$45.92 | 379 | 26.1%99 W · 280 L | -8.1wins | -0.02per pick | 28cpaid | -4.8%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xacd8…b9f6backed Yes | 20c | 50$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$40 | 17 | 70.6%12 W · 5 L | +4.4wins | +0.26per pick | 45cpaid | +70.1%equal weight | 62+0.10 edge/pick |
| 0xdbf6…513abacked No | 80c | 50$40 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$40 | 52 | 53.8%28 W · 24 L | -0.7wins | -0.01per pick | 55cpaid | -5.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xbabc…26ebbacked Yes | 48c | 50$24 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$26 | 1 | 100%1 W · 0 L | +0.5wins | +0.52per pick | 48cpaid | +108.3%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xa9be…27bcbacked Yes | 20c | 50$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$40 | 4 | 75%3 W · 1 L | +1.5wins | +0.38per pick | 37cpaid | +120.2%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x74d7…6beabacked No | 45c | 49.99$22 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$22.5 | 44 | 18.2%8 W · 36 L | -1.0wins | -0.02per pick | 20cpaid | -32.1%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xebdf…1fcbbacked Yes | 45c | 44.35$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$24.35 | 5 | 60%3 W · 2 L | +0.2wins | +0.04per pick | 56cpaid | +20.5%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0ef4…4e4ebacked Yes | 32c | 43$14 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$29.15 | 13 | 46.2%6 W · 7 L | -0.4wins | -0.03per pick | 49cpaid | -11.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x7826…20b1backed No | 48c | 41.67$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 6 | 33.3%2 W · 4 L | -0.4wins | -0.06per pick | 40cpaid | -28.3%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x06a9…1a49backed Yes | 50c | 40$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$20 | 143 | 52.4%75 W · 68 L | +8.8wins | +0.06per pick | 46cpaid | +9.7%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xd410…3a1bbacked No | 45c | 40$18 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$17.9 | 98 | 52%51 W · 47 L | -0.1wins | 0.00per pick | 52cpaid | -3.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x4be5…c002backed Yes | 60c | 36.82$22 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$14.73 | 1 | 100%1 W · 0 L | +0.4wins | +0.40per pick | 60cpaid | +66.7%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x0c35…c311backed No | 55c | 36.36$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 3 | 33.3%1 W · 2 L | -0.7wins | -0.22per pick | 56cpaid | -24.2%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x347a…83e3backed No | 55c | 34.55$19 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$19 | 51 | 35.3%18 W · 33 L | -3.9wins | -0.08per pick | 43cpaid | -26.2%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x3486…49eebacked No | 60c | 33.33$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 274 | 37.2%102 W · 172 L | -1.2wins | 0.00per pick | 38cpaid | -6.6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xd307…f2b5backed Yes | 77c | 33$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7.59 | 2 | 100%2 W · 0 L | +0.5wins | +0.25per pick | 75cpaid | +33.4%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xe2e5…c3d4backed Yes | 62c | 32.26$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.26 | 6 | 66.7%4 W · 2 L | +0.2wins | +0.04per pick | 63cpaid | +3.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe37e…0009backed No | 62c | 32.26$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 15 | 66.7%10 W · 5 L | +0.9wins | +0.06per pick | 61cpaid | +8.9%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x797f…d4e0backed No | 64c | 31.37$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 3 | 33.3%1 W · 2 L | -1.2wins | -0.41per pick | 75cpaid | -58.3%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x7cba…c616backed No | 75c | 30$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$22.6 | 11 | 72.7%8 W · 3 L | +0.6wins | +0.05per pick | 68cpaid | +5.5%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x2942…5c1bbacked No | 80c | 25$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 15 | 60%9 W · 6 L | 0.0wins | 0.00per pick | 60cpaid | +3.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x8b10…befdbacked Yes | 80c | 25$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5 | 1 | 100%1 W · 0 L | +0.2wins | +0.20per pick | 80cpaid | +25%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x7879…751ebacked No | 80c | 23.75$19 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$19 | 3 | 66.7%2 W · 1 L | -0.2wins | -0.08per pick | 75cpaid | -6.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0cf3…2b57backed No | 52c | 23.08$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12 | 16 | 56.3%9 W · 7 L | +2.3wins | +0.15per pick | 42cpaid | +32.4%equal weight | 56+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x8c57…eb35backed Yes | 64c | 20$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7.2 | 5 | 60%3 W · 2 L | -0.1wins | -0.01per pick | 61cpaid | -0.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xf898…e720backed Yes | 65c | 20$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7.1 | 31 | 61.3%19 W · 12 L | +0.3wins | +0.01per pick | 60cpaid | -8.7%equal weight | 510.00 edge/pick |
| 0x9e52…5535backed Yes | 56c | 20$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8.9 | 10 | 60%6 W · 4 L | +0.8wins | +0.08per pick | 52cpaid | +3.1%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xbf0a…875bbacked Yes | 63c | 20$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7.4 | 4 | 75%3 W · 1 L | +0.6wins | +0.15per pick | 60cpaid | +21.6%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xc72b…3756backed No | 70c | 20$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14 | 12 | 75%9 W · 3 L | +0.7wins | +0.05per pick | 70cpaid | +2.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x33ae…ffa9backed No | 80c | 16.25$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13 | 4 | 75%3 W · 1 L | +0.4wins | +0.09per pick | 66cpaid | +23%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x25d0…a114backed No | 80c | 15$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12 | 3 | 66.7%2 W · 1 L | +0.1wins | +0.02per pick | 64cpaid | +18.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x4aef…9337backed No | 79c | 13.9$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.98 | 80 | 45%36 W · 44 L | +0.9wins | +0.01per pick | 44cpaid | -8.4%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Europa Conference League and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Will Lille win on 2025-10-02?this page
- Will AS Roma vs. Lille end in a draw?No won
- Will AS Roma win on 2025-10-02?No won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.