TailMyPicks

Check any Polymarket wallet’s real record.

Lol · resolved market

Game Handicap: GEN (-1.5) vs KT Rolster (+1.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
KT Rolsterof Gen.G, KT Rolster
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$211,519
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$256,477

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $211,519 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 156 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x7c38…1218backed Gen.G58c101,033$58,215 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58,214.6621448.1%103 W · 111 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-6.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9750…263dbacked KT Rolster45c42,361$18,944 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23,416.791942.1%8 W · 11 L-0.8wins-0.04per pick46cpaid+0.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1341…0853backed KT Rolster40c37,803$14,992 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22,810.751,82745.6%834 W · 993 L+26.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xb784…61d0backed KT Rolster42c20,416$8,575 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,841.4421137.4%79 W · 132 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick38cpaid+9.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe3aa…1485backed KT Rolster41c10,543$4,323 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,220.3611645.7%53 W · 63 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+12.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7234…1d85backed Gen.G61c7,670$4,645 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,645.2414637.7%55 W · 91 L-5.0wins-0.03per pick41cpaid+10.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x92d8…0924backed KT Rolster42c6,000$2,520 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,479.9823439.7%93 W · 141 L-6.2wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-5.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8e8c…65ddbacked KT Rolster36c2,881$1,037 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,843.7770456.4%397 W · 307 L+39.3wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+11.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xb9ab…f282backed KT Rolster36c2,752$991 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,761.521,02952.3%538 W · 491 L+27.2wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+6.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe4da…1772backed Gen.G60c2,500$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50057945.9%266 W · 313 L-13.2wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1380…673ebacked Gen.G55c2,433$1,338 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,337.88742.9%3 W · 4 L+1.0wins+0.14per pick29cpaid+103.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa941…ec2ebacked Gen.G64c2,411$1,543 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,543.0351160.3%308 W · 203 L-7.7wins-0.02per pick62cpaid-1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x7a0f…1305backed Gen.G62c2,331$1,437 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,437.341,46961.4%902 W · 567 L-20.4wins-0.01per pick63cpaid-2.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x791e…9bdabacked Gen.G63c2,321$1,467 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,466.8832345.5%147 W · 176 L+12.1wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+13.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3f12…3e35backed Gen.G64c1,978$1,266 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,266.1337641.8%157 W · 219 L-18.8wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-13.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x5f30…3aeebacked KT Rolster45c1,845$822 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,022.8114949%73 W · 76 L-13.6wins-0.09per pick58cpaid-18%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x84d7…298fbacked KT Rolster40c1,545$618 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$927.1614338.5%55 W · 88 L+4.7wins+0.03per pick35cpaid-7.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5a3c…38d3backed KT Rolster37c1,532$569 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$963.2856432.1%181 W · 383 L-2.3wins0.00per pick32cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9b97…6084backed Gen.G56c1,304$726 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$726.331,26542.8%541 W · 724 L-15.8wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-15.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5e0e…bf45backed Gen.G61c1,200$732 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7324238.1%16 W · 26 L-3.7wins-0.09per pick47cpaid-19.6%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xf1ad…6979backed KT Rolster42c1,197$502 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$695.5486144.1%380 W · 481 L-10.6wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-4.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xda32…04a1backed Gen.G59c1,170$691 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$690.5842148.2%203 W · 218 L-8.9wins-0.02per pick50cpaid+36.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0659…d74dbacked Gen.G53c1,059$560 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$560.0578549.9%392 W · 393 L+12.7wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed Gen.G2c963.65$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.82,54039.7%1,009 W · 1,531 L-79.3wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-18.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x183f…85e3backed KT Rolster40c893.99$358 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$536.391,09153.8%587 W · 504 L+38.0wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+5.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked KT Rolster44c850.85$377 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$473.952,40642.6%1,026 W · 1,380 L+21.5wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-5.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x00ce…3f01backed Gen.G58c807.19$468 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$467.8924750.6%125 W · 122 L+4.5wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xec59…bb35backed Gen.G59c795.19$469 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$469.168336.1%30 W · 53 L-1.8wins-0.02per pick38cpaid-18.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x53ab…65aabacked Gen.G62c776.61$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$479.531,61148.4%780 W · 831 L+24.7wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+2.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa578…6702backed KT Rolster39c750.27$289 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$461.1841749.2%205 W · 212 L+6.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+5.1%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xc1ae…f001backed Gen.G53c680.96$361 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$360.9110521%22 W · 83 L-10.5wins-0.10per pick31cpaid-2.4%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x4818…fde0backed Gen.G59c639.01$377 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$377.0276953.4%411 W · 358 L+13.9wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+1.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xee0b…e9f4backed KT Rolster39c578.04$225 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$352.6366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.16per pick50cpaid+32.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xeffd…5a86backed Gen.G54c559.45$302 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$301.6544047.5%209 W · 231 L+11.7wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2aa5…ff32backed Gen.G63c500$315 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3151,23249.4%609 W · 623 L+13.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed KT Rolster38c500$190 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3102,36731.9%756 W · 1,611 L+41.4wins+0.02per pick30cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5316…1d07backed Gen.G59c499.99$295 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29529240.1%117 W · 175 L-5.8wins-0.02per pick42cpaid+0.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9eab…7e13backed KT Rolster42c482.6$203 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$279.9116045.6%73 W · 87 L-8.9wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-14%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xcc30…c8a5backed Gen.G63c466.5$293 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$293.3281333%268 W · 545 L-43.4wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-14.6%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xaccd…7402backed Gen.G58c439.98$255 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$255.195740.4%23 W · 34 L-3.9wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-20.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xb8be…444ebacked Gen.G58c429.94$249 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$249.363839.5%15 W · 23 L+1.2wins+0.03per pick36cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8a2c…5172backed KT Rolster45c429.78$193 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$236.3843640.6%177 W · 259 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick40cpaid+4.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x675f…aa0bbacked KT Rolster45c425.3$194 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$231.7922747.6%108 W · 119 L+10.6wins+0.05per pick43cpaid+8.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xc438…e537backed Gen.G62c420.2$261 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$260.5220%0 W · 2 L-1.3wins-0.64per pick64cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xc5ff…abd0backed Gen.G55c400$218 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21852344.9%235 W · 288 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x93f4…ea90backed Gen.G57c390$224 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2241,11748.8%545 W · 572 L+40.2wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+10%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8e3f…6941backed KT Rolster42c347.68$146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$201.5239447.2%186 W · 208 L+5.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xda3a…381fbacked Gen.G59c343.74$202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201.611,50250.3%756 W · 746 L+71.2wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xbc65…96c8backed Gen.G58c337.01$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$195.4721939.3%86 W · 133 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick38cpaid+5.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x51d9…cb1abacked Gen.G59c335.54$198 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$197.9748243.2%208 W · 274 L-13.8wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-7.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0cef…9d08backed KT Rolster41c310.83$126 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$184.461861.1%11 W · 7 L0.0wins0.00per pick61cpaid+2.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0c69…2b8dbacked KT Rolster42c306.76$129 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$177.6434945.6%159 W · 190 L-0.9wins0.00per pick46cpaid-4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0599…3c6abacked Gen.G61c300$183 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18382260.9%501 W · 321 L+0.6wins0.00per pick61cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd93b…cd48backed KT Rolster37c295.94$109 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$186.4532939.8%131 W · 198 L-3.8wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3ee1…f616backed Gen.G55c294.58$163 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$163.197342.5%31 W · 42 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-5.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1311…d450backed KT Rolster35c289.16$101 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$187.9531838.1%121 W · 197 L-15.0wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-16.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x3865…fcbebacked KT Rolster46c287.67$133 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$154.9538950.9%198 W · 191 L+3.2wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7eda…4bb7backed KT Rolster41c279.83$115 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$165.148852%254 W · 234 L-2.4wins0.00per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x1831…9b66backed KT Rolster40c269.92$108 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$161.951100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.60per pick40cpaid+150%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7a57…968cbacked KT Rolster39c259.61$101 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$158.3656341%231 W · 332 L-3.5wins-0.01per pick42cpaid0%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6814…d83abacked KT Rolster40c249.27$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$149.562429.2%7 W · 17 L-2.3wins-0.10per pick39cpaid-26.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xb03c…b352backed KT Rolster39c247.15$96 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$150.814168.3%28 W · 13 L+6.6wins+0.16per pick52cpaid+32.1%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0xd055…28d0backed Gen.G61c243.52$149 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$148.5412840.6%52 W · 76 L-0.1wins0.00per pick41cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3abf…b143backed KT Rolster47c238.82$112 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$126.8644843.8%196 W · 252 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-2.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Gen.G55c236.97$129 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$129.371,22448.3%591 W · 633 L+26.5wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2e5b…2b2dbacked KT Rolster42c229.81$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$133.2926155.9%146 W · 115 L+8.5wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+10.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xde19…3a14backed Gen.G53c222.88$118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$117.9613852.2%72 W · 66 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-7.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdcc0…6872backed Gen.G60c220$132 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1327944.3%35 W · 44 L-2.5wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-3.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x284a…017ebacked Gen.G59c219.35$129 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$129.42944.4%4 W · 5 L-1.5wins-0.16per pick61cpaid-29.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x847e…3c43backed Gen.G64c213.06$137 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13724656.1%138 W · 108 L-3.7wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x8ddc…9c0fbacked KT Rolster39c210.46$82 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$128.3821944.3%97 W · 122 L-2.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-8.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe7c1…3e0bbacked KT Rolster41c200$82 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11863646.9%298 W · 338 L-19.0wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-11.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc8d9…df36backed KT Rolster37c192.44$71 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$121.243554.3%19 W · 16 L+4.6wins+0.13per pick41cpaid+30.5%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0xc2b6…d7cebacked KT Rolster45c178.24$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98.083751.4%19 W · 18 L+2.3wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+13%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x3ac8…45c4backed Gen.G57c170.91$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.4251044.9%229 W · 281 L+11.9wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5b2b…d4d3backed Gen.G58c168.2$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.4310240.2%41 W · 61 L-3.6wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-14.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0e1b…ecafbacked KT Rolster48c165.72$79 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$86.5282044%361 W · 459 L+0.9wins0.00per pick44cpaid-6.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6e8d…3a3dbacked Gen.G59c165.32$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.5449346.5%229 W · 264 L-6.7wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7cba…3ec4backed Gen.G59c163.99$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.571,54543.7%675 W · 870 L-18.6wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-3.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf21d…2e9abacked Gen.G62c163.94$102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101.9239154.2%212 W · 179 L+23.3wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+8.3%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xd226…38b4backed KT Rolster42c150$63 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.465644.6%25 W · 31 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+20.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x974f…cd80backed Gen.G58c135.1$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$78.3615148.3%73 W · 78 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x24a5…5d07backed KT Rolster39c125.24$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$76.4757.1%4 W · 3 L+0.3wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+8.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcd00…7a45backed Gen.G59c123.99$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.1632952.9%174 W · 155 L+0.3wins0.00per pick53cpaid+3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5668…eababacked KT Rolster45c118.19$53 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$656740.3%27 W · 40 L+0.1wins0.00per pick40cpaid-17.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x967e…2fb6backed Gen.G49c117.72$58 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.1120%0 W · 2 L-0.9wins-0.45per pick45cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe49d…c3dbbacked Gen.G64c112.8$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72.1963547.9%304 W · 331 L-16.7wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-6.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xae35…5dd3backed KT Rolster46c110.82$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$60.3215731.8%50 W · 107 L-15.1wins-0.10per pick41cpaid-29.7%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x727e…42adbacked Gen.G65c102.8$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.8240%0 W · 4 L-2.6wins-0.66per pick66cpaid-100%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xe136…6d09backed Gen.G55c101.33$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55.7319738.6%76 W · 121 L-3.9wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-3.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa5dc…ec43backed Gen.G60c100$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6059647.7%284 W · 312 L-10.6wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf671…3dd7backed KT Rolster49c98.92$48 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.4543348.7%211 W · 222 L+6.3wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-0.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xff16…804ebacked KT Rolster39c98.81$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$60.2713849.3%68 W · 70 L+4.3wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2c9e…fbfdbacked Gen.G57c97.42$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55.5325640.6%104 W · 152 L-10.2wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-8.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8688…a520backed Gen.G57c97.42$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55.5316251.9%84 W · 78 L+2.9wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x616f…e14cbacked KT Rolster40c96.4$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.8411851.7%61 W · 57 L-8.6wins-0.07per pick59cpaid-11.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x30ab…f338backed KT Rolster45c92.6$42 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.0723443.2%101 W · 133 L-4.7wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-10%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x596a…7a0fbacked Gen.G59c87.79$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.791,24134.7%431 W · 810 L-2.0wins0.00per pick35cpaid-5.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf5b0…38c4backed KT Rolster46c84.96$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45.759643.8%42 W · 54 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa0c5…4291backed KT Rolster38c83.17$32 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.628559.6%170 W · 115 L+11.0wins+0.04per pick56cpaid+7.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 7 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.