NBA · resolved market
Spread: Thunder (-16.5)
https://tailmypicks.com/m/0x712ee0aa5cb7ac19c1de1ca6b1488b8406adb1ffe4fae9215635748cbb76f35e
Rebuilt .
What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- Thunderof Thunder, 76ers
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- Polymarket published no figure
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $236,151
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $236,151 — TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 74 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in NBA | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0xc807…c12bbacked 76ers | 52c | 52,728$27,418 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$27,418.48 | 205 | 45.9%94 W · 111 L | -12.8wins | -0.06per pick | 52cpaid | -12%equal weight | 44-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xa8e0…ad50backed Thunder | 48c | 50,002$24,001 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$26,001 | 431 | 48.7%210 W · 221 L | -5.4wins | -0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xabb8…bba3backed 76ers | 52c | 38,462$20,000 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$19,999.98 | 172 | 51.7%89 W · 83 L | +2.7wins | +0.02per pick | 50cpaid | +5.4%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x8f03…64d6backed 76ers | 51c | 30,188$15,516 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15,515.61 | 1,046 | 51.1%534 W · 512 L | -0.7wins | 0.00per pick | 51cpaid | -0.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x2a2c…9bc1backed Thunder | 48c | 26,729$12,830 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13,899.05 | 662 | 48.5%321 W · 341 L | -0.6wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | -8.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xead0…f3babacked Thunder | 48c | 10,000$4,800 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5,200 | 1,124 | 48.6%546 W · 578 L | +13.9wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | +3.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xf19d…276fbacked Thunder | 49c | 9,747$4,776 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$4,971.19 | 231 | 47.6%110 W · 121 L | -2.0wins | -0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -1.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x2302…d6d2backed Thunder | 49c | 5,102$2,500 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$2,602.04 | 1,286 | 50.8%653 W · 633 L | +11.2wins | +0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -1.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0a77…9d74backed Thunder | 48c | 4,166$2,000 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$2,166.32 | 1,139 | 48.3%550 W · 589 L | +3.5wins | 0.00per pick | 48cpaid | +0.8%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x204f…5e14backed Thunder | 48c | 3,738$1,791 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,947.39 | 8,988 | 47.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L | +96.4wins | +0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -5.4%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x6a32…0086backed Thunder | 49c | 2,500$1,225 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,275 | 1,332 | 51.2%682 W · 650 L | +7.9wins | +0.01per pick | 51cpaid | +1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xd04d…bfc2backed Thunder | 49c | 1,838$901 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$937.38 | 2,435 | 49.8%1,212 W · 1,223 L | +30.3wins | +0.01per pick | 49cpaid | +2.6%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xd9c0…4583backed 76ers | 52c | 1,400$728 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$728 | 138 | 57.2%79 W · 59 L | +1.7wins | +0.01per pick | 56cpaid | +4.6%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x37c1…c53abacked Thunder | 50c | 1,378$682 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$696.04 | 1,915 | 49.3%944 W · 971 L | +19.7wins | +0.01per pick | 48cpaid | +0.5%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xefce…4e4abacked Thunder | 48c | 1,354$650 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$704.16 | 649 | 44.7%290 W · 359 L | -9.5wins | -0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -2%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x7b2c…af48backed Thunder | 48c | 1,100$528 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$572 | 1,475 | 51.3%756 W · 719 L | +35.2wins | +0.02per pick | 49cpaid | +5.6%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xe9f5…3e7abacked Thunder | 49c | 1,068$523 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$544.68 | 377 | 55.2%208 W · 169 L | +23.5wins | +0.06per pick | 49cpaid | +60.6%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xebba…383cbacked Thunder | 48c | 1,042$500 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$541.66 | 240 | 50.8%122 W · 118 L | +0.3wins | 0.00per pick | 51cpaid | +1.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xdbdd…a5debacked Thunder | 70c | 1,035$723 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$311.72 | 3,341 | 53.4%1,785 W · 1,556 L | +108.9wins | +0.03per pick | 50cpaid | +1.3%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x10d4…69ebbacked Thunder | 49c | 1,000$490 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$510 | 629 | 48.6%306 W · 323 L | +4.2wins | +0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -2.6%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x8929…733ebacked 76ers | 29c | 958.18$278 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$277.81 | 161 | 39.8%64 W · 97 L | -1.4wins | -0.01per pick | 41cpaid | -10.3%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x889c…e375backed 76ers | 53c | 943.4$500 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$500 | 509 | 54.8%279 W · 230 L | +14.8wins | +0.03per pick | 52cpaid | +5.1%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xafaf…1635backed 76ers | 38c | 576.29$221 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$220.55 | 1,036 | 47.6%493 W · 543 L | +6.7wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -4%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xd6a3…9489backed Thunder | 52c | 505.34$261 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$244.1 | 4,878 | 48%2,341 W · 2,537 L | +61.9wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x4880…5626backed Thunder | 49c | 436.29$214 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$222.51 | 186 | 48.9%91 W · 95 L | -5.4wins | -0.03per pick | 52cpaid | -8.7%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x917e…eed9backed Thunder | 48c | 367.91$176 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$191.99 | 210 | 49.5%104 W · 106 L | +2.4wins | +0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -0.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xd106…c79cbacked Thunder | 48c | 297.1$143 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$154.19 | 4,781 | 50.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L | +20.7wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | +0.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x32ed…f960backed Thunder | 65c | 234.03$152 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$82.06 | 2,949 | 51.5%1,519 W · 1,430 L | +119.4wins | +0.04per pick | 47cpaid | +3.7%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x4a86…d3e0backed Thunder | 48c | 218.61$105 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$113.68 | 3,285 | 49.1%1,613 W · 1,672 L | +5.3wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | -0.5%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x02a9…642dbacked Thunder | 50c | 196$98 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$98 | 181 | 43.1%78 W · 103 L | -12.3wins | -0.07per pick | 50cpaid | -12.5%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x5157…942bbacked 76ers | 52c | 194.17$101 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$100.97 | 71 | 45.1%32 W · 39 L | -3.5wins | -0.05per pick | 50cpaid | -10.3%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x72a1…1950backed 76ers | 53c | 188.68$100 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$100 | 381 | 52.8%201 W · 180 L | +18.2wins | +0.05per pick | 48cpaid | +5.9%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xd815…1cdebacked Thunder | 55c | 181.3$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$81.3 | 84 | 56%47 W · 37 L | +2.9wins | +0.03per pick | 53cpaid | +8.6%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xbe02…5fb3backed Thunder | 49c | 179.43$88 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$91.51 | 423 | 52.5%222 W · 201 L | +5.4wins | +0.01per pick | 51cpaid | -1.6%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xf18a…e4e5backed Thunder | 62c | 132.74$83 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$50.08 | 3,551 | 46.8%1,663 W · 1,888 L | +1.9wins | 0.00per pick | 47cpaid | -6.6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x187b…8848backed 76ers | 53c | 132.08$70 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$70 | 722 | 50.6%365 W · 357 L | -17.6wins | -0.02per pick | 53cpaid | -3.7%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x01c7…e995backed 76ers | 51c | 127.6$65 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$64.54 | 3,902 | 47.8%1,864 W · 2,038 L | -17.9wins | 0.00per pick | 48cpaid | -1.1%equal weight | 490.00 edge/pick |
| 0xe401…7b88backed 76ers | 47c | 123.16$58 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$58.21 | 5,844 | 46.7%2,728 W · 3,116 L | +32.7wins | +0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -3.1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xb3cf…0ebdbacked Thunder | 64c | 117.23$75 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$42.7 | 1,271 | 38.3%487 W · 784 L | -13.4wins | -0.01per pick | 39cpaid | -4.5%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x20ad…a7c6backed 76ers | 41c | 102.86$42 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$42.1 | 514 | 38.7%199 W · 315 L | -29.6wins | -0.06per pick | 44cpaid | -18.8%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x471f…5187backed Thunder | 49c | 102.04$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$52.04 | 14 | 57.1%8 W · 6 L | +1.4wins | +0.10per pick | 47cpaid | +17.8%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xbaea…4bbfbacked 76ers | 52c | 100$52 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$52 | 405 | 41%166 W · 239 L | +0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 41cpaid | -5.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x584c…0da9backed Thunder | 49c | 97$48 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$48.99 | 118 | 47.5%56 W · 62 L | -5.9wins | -0.05per pick | 52cpaid | -11.1%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x0e4a…fcd8backed Thunder | 49c | 92.06$45 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$46.95 | 250 | 49.6%124 W · 126 L | -4.4wins | -0.02per pick | 51cpaid | -6.6%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x6fb5…2112backed Thunder | 67c | 74.86$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$24.86 | 84 | 61.9%52 W · 32 L | +5.2wins | +0.06per pick | 56cpaid | +11.7%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xccf1…25a0backed Thunder | 54c | 67.38$37 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$30.72 | 1,522 | 49.6%755 W · 767 L | +27.6wins | +0.02per pick | 48cpaid | +6%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xa106…5abbbacked 76ers | 53c | 66.11$35 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$34.99 | 156 | 49.4%77 W · 79 L | -4.0wins | -0.03per pick | 52cpaid | -5.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x9b89…99e2backed Thunder | 48c | 63.37$30 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$32.95 | 509 | 48.5%247 W · 262 L | +2.3wins | 0.00per pick | 48cpaid | -1.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x2942…a018backed 76ers | 54c | 62.96$34 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$34 | 231 | 43.3%100 W · 131 L | -13.5wins | -0.06per pick | 49cpaid | -16.4%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x3a25…bb6bbacked Thunder | 47c | 62.72$30 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$33.07 | 340 | 47.1%160 W · 180 L | -10.3wins | -0.03per pick | 50cpaid | -8.9%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xc036…30d4backed Thunder | 49c | 61.22$30 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$31.22 | 519 | 46.8%243 W · 276 L | -6.5wins | -0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -6.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x51ce…44c1backed Thunder | 49c | 60$29 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$30.6 | 114 | 51.8%59 W · 55 L | +2.1wins | +0.02per pick | 50cpaid | +2.7%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x1813…4dfebacked Thunder | 48c | 59.88$29 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$31.14 | 399 | 43.1%172 W · 227 L | -17.1wins | -0.04per pick | 47cpaid | -15.3%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x775d…42eebacked 76ers | 52c | 56.6$29 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$29.43 | 4 | 0%0 W · 4 L | -1.4wins | -0.35per pick | 35cpaid | -100%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x13e5…1ea5backed Thunder | 72c | 54.98$40 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.33 | 200 | 49%98 W · 102 L | -2.7wins | -0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -11.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xc58a…b8f8backed Thunder | 49c | 52.37$26 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$26.71 | 215 | 50.2%108 W · 107 L | -0.4wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | -2.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x0e72…54f0backed Thunder | 48c | 52.08$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$27.08 | 104 | 62.5%65 W · 39 L | +11.6wins | +0.11per pick | 51cpaid | +27.3%equal weight | 60+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x04b4…8d0bbacked Thunder | 47c | 50.43$24 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$26.48 | 572 | 50%286 W · 286 L | -0.3wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | -2.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xb1ce…ed4ebacked Thunder | 49c | 50$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$25.5 | 14 | 50%7 W · 7 L | +0.6wins | +0.04per pick | 46cpaid | +0.6%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xa07d…a037backed 76ers | 48c | 45$22 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$21.51 | 1,283 | 23.4%300 W · 983 L | -178.2wins | -0.14per pick | 37cpaid | -40.2%equal weight | 35-0.14 edge/pick |
| 0x066f…b576backed Thunder | 49c | 38$19 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.38 | 1,634 | 48.1%786 W · 848 L | +5.9wins | 0.00per pick | 48cpaid | +0.6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x2e3d…b56cbacked 76ers | 53c | 37.74$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 373 | 44.2%165 W · 208 L | -19.1wins | -0.05per pick | 49cpaid | -8.6%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x5f39…d603backed Thunder | 49c | 37.08$18 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.08 | 917 | 46.9%430 W · 487 L | -19.9wins | -0.02per pick | 49cpaid | -6.3%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x73a2…3b68backed Thunder | 72c | 36.55$26 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.21 | 390 | 55.6%217 W · 173 L | +8.8wins | +0.02per pick | 53cpaid | -2.4%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x3abf…b143backed Thunder | 48c | 31.32$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.29 | 877 | 44.7%392 W · 485 L | -1.7wins | 0.00per pick | 45cpaid | -13.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xf39d…a06dbacked 76ers | 52c | 30.77$16 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$16 | 48 | 56.3%27 W · 21 L | +3.1wins | +0.07per pick | 50cpaid | +11.6%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x299f…2140backed Thunder | 48c | 29.14$14 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.04 | 1,141 | 48%548 W · 593 L | +9.0wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -1.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x90df…a209backed Thunder | 48c | 25.73$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13.38 | 298 | 48%143 W · 155 L | +6.5wins | +0.02per pick | 46cpaid | +0.9%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x16ea…9400backed Thunder | 48c | 23.5$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.22 | 1,322 | 49.9%660 W · 662 L | +13.7wins | +0.01per pick | 49cpaid | +1.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xbbe8…6dd8backed Thunder | 49c | 22.83$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$11.64 | 13 | 30.8%4 W · 9 L | -2.6wins | -0.20per pick | 50cpaid | -37.4%equal weight | 43-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x902f…fb2dbacked 76ers | 50c | 21.51$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.72 | 138 | 57.2%79 W · 59 L | +13.2wins | +0.10per pick | 48cpaid | +22.3%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x0ebb…1e6bbacked Thunder | 49c | 21$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.71 | 121 | 61.2%74 W · 47 L | +7.2wins | +0.06per pick | 55cpaid | +9.7%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xdcdd…6d55backed Thunder | 49c | 20.49$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.45 | 236 | 50.8%120 W · 116 L | -2.3wins | -0.01per pick | 52cpaid | -4.4%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x3868…74f9backed Thunder | 50c | 20$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10 | 13 | 38.5%5 W · 8 L | -1.5wins | -0.11per pick | 50cpaid | -25.9%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 31 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Spread: Thunder (-16.5)this page
- Isaiah Hartenstein: Assists O/U 3.5Yes won
- Isaiah Hartenstein: Rebounds O/U 8.5Yes won
- Jalen Williams: Points O/U 15.5Yes won
- Jalen Williams: Rebounds O/U 3.5Yes won
- Quentin Grimes: Assists O/U 3.5No won
- Quentin Grimes: Points O/U 19.5No won
- Quentin Grimes: Rebounds O/U 3.5No won
- Spread: Thunder (-15.5)Thunder won
- Spread: Thunder (-18.5)Thunder won
- Spread: Thunder (-19.5)Thunder won
- Spread: Thunder (-20.5)76ers won
- Spread: Thunder (-21.5)76ers won
- Thunder vs. 76ersThunder won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: 1H MoneylineThunder won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: 1H O/U 109.5Under won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: 1H O/U 110.5Under won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 220.5Over won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 221.5Over won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 222.5Over won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 223.5Over won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 224.5Over won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 225.5Over won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 226.5Under won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 228.5Under won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 229.5Under won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 230.5Under won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 231.5Under won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 233.5Under won
- Thunder vs. 76ers: O/U 234.5Under won
- Trendon Watford: Points O/U 9.5Yes won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.