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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: FURIA vs 3DMAX - Map 2 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
3DMAXof FURIA, 3DMAX
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$345,790

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $345,790 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 123 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xff80…9b4dbacked FURIA63c15,643$9,851 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,850.8432552.6%171 W · 154 L+11.7wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+4.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4572…83ffbacked FURIA19c15,007$2,847 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,84732348.9%158 W · 165 L-11.5wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-6.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x21ec…5348backed FURIA73c13,307$9,684 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,684.0772453.7%389 W · 335 L+11.9wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf12a…f637backed 3DMAX27c11,994$3,238 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,755.541369.2%9 W · 4 L+2.7wins+0.20per pick49cpaid+53.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x18bb…e5cdbacked 3DMAX28c10,000$2,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,199.9830726.4%81 W · 226 L+8.8wins+0.03per pick24cpaid+6.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked FURIA1c9,511$95 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$95.113,09648.5%1,501 W · 1,595 L+135.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x26f8…3452backed 3DMAX69c9,000$6,210 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,79019949.7%99 W · 100 L-9.6wins-0.05per pick55cpaid+14.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed 3DMAX36c5,693$2,066 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,627.664,22849.2%2,080 W · 2,148 L+59.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed 3DMAX28c4,460$1,232 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,228.011,25942.5%535 W · 724 L+20.6wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfe8a…23cebacked 3DMAX51c4,455$2,264 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,190.582,21447.5%1,052 W · 1,162 L-5.6wins0.00per pick48cpaid-14.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2529…548abacked 3DMAX56c3,609$2,023 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,586.133,22551.2%1,651 W · 1,574 L+88.0wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-6.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7a78…add7backed 3DMAX51c3,499$1,782 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,716.91,96946.7%919 W · 1,050 L+12.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-14.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd035…f165backed 3DMAX42c2,964$1,239 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,725.1418536.2%67 W · 118 L-5.9wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-18.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3f97…4059backed FURIA73c2,951$2,154 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,154.4346149.9%230 W · 231 L-1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked FURIA72c2,900$2,088 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,08825555.3%141 W · 114 L+1.2wins0.00per pick55cpaid+2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked 3DMAX57c2,292$1,301 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$990.761,61145.4%731 W · 880 L+30.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-14.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked 3DMAX72c2,251$1,611 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$639.981,05449%516 W · 538 L+38.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-10.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed 3DMAX58c2,217$1,279 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$937.2488746.7%414 W · 473 L+8.9wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-15.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x11e5…337ebacked FURIA60c2,000$1,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,20022550.7%114 W · 111 L+0.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked 3DMAX49c1,401$688 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$712.817,92550.4%3,997 W · 3,928 L+179.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe902…eda4backed FURIA61c1,191$722 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$722.027755.8%43 W · 34 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick57cpaid-0.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x54e0…b02cbacked FURIA19c1,186$226 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$226.471,65032.7%540 W · 1,110 L-49.1wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-12.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2b12…43c8backed FURIA44c1,137$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5006836.8%25 W · 43 L-4.7wins-0.07per pick44cpaid-22.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf31b…241bbacked FURIA57c1,129$644 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$643.6422927.5%63 W · 166 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick29cpaid-9.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4687…8d42backed FURIA47c1,125$529 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$528.8452947.1%249 W · 280 L-14.5wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-8.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdbb4…48bebacked FURIA55c1,006$550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5505341.5%22 W · 31 L-5.4wins-0.10per pick52cpaid-23.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x3414…067abacked 3DMAX26c999.99$260 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$739.997832.1%25 W · 53 L-2.4wins-0.03per pick35cpaid-11.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xaef0…4806backed FURIA71c936.05$666 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$666.291338.5%5 W · 8 L-1.8wins-0.14per pick53cpaid-19%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xcd43…88d7backed 3DMAX27c925.93$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$675.9314532.4%47 W · 98 L-4.0wins-0.03per pick35cpaid-9.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x9f9c…101cbacked FURIA72c863$621 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$621.366952.2%36 W · 33 L-9.6wins-0.14per pick66cpaid-22.5%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0xec0e…672cbacked 3DMAX61c828.98$507 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$321.847738.4%183 W · 294 L-26.7wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-31.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2a71…e454backed FURIA45c828.89$373 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37324944.6%111 W · 138 L+6.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+7.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed 3DMAX48c821.42$398 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$423.686,48042.9%2,782 W · 3,698 L-79.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked 3DMAX36c751$268 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$482.861,04044%458 W · 582 L-22.2wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-22.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6df5…6430backed FURIA10c747.1$75 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$74.711,27821.9%280 W · 998 L-24.3wins-0.02per pick24cpaid-16.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2133…7903backed FURIA16c687$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$109.9238835.8%139 W · 249 L-6.8wins-0.02per pick38cpaid-10.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc8ad…be4ebacked FURIA70c623$433 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$433.3125651.2%131 W · 125 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-4.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xf54c…e6ccbacked FURIA45c550$247 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$247.56934.8%24 W · 45 L-1.3wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-12.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed FURIA59c447$265 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$265.475,28731.3%1,657 W · 3,630 L-383.3wins-0.07per pick39cpaid-37.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xbec5…8f77backed FURIA16c443.75$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7113030.8%40 W · 90 L-3.8wins-0.03per pick34cpaid-18.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x6b23…04a3backed FURIA16c423.12$69 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.8196543.5%420 W · 545 L-20.4wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-15.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5085…9bbcbacked 3DMAX55c412.73$227 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$185.73966.7%6 W · 3 L+1.3wins+0.15per pick52cpaid+28.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd055…28d0backed 3DMAX68c411.83$280 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$131.965546.9%307 W · 348 L+18.4wins+0.03per pick44cpaid+6.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x22ae…af00backed 3DMAX71c400$284 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$116.1526451.5%136 W · 128 L-0.1wins0.00per pick52cpaid-5.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5d9e…e0e3backed FURIA8c372.27$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.0238844.6%173 W · 215 L-3.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-17.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2a8c…fd3dbacked 3DMAX27c370.37$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.3752837.1%196 W · 332 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick36cpaid-3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbefe…2d45backed 3DMAX29c344.83$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$244.836246.8%29 W · 33 L-1.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid+3.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x40a2…19c9backed 3DMAX40c328$131 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$196.89340.9%38 W · 55 L-7.7wins-0.08per pick49cpaid-23%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xfdbe…b6d8backed 3DMAX29c320.48$93 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$227.5214929.5%44 W · 105 L-7.7wins-0.05per pick35cpaid-16.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed FURIA49c311.16$151 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$151.314,03848.1%1,943 W · 2,095 L-23.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7a73…a9c8backed FURIA34c287.14$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9869635.3%246 W · 450 L-49.3wins-0.07per pick42cpaid-17.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked 3DMAX67c281.44$188 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$93.432,22141.3%917 W · 1,304 L-22.6wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-19.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0e5e…67c5backed FURIA30c273.36$83 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8330527.5%84 W · 221 L-17.6wins-0.06per pick33cpaid-18.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x65e8…67e2backed FURIA41c269.99$111 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$110.71827.8%5 W · 13 L-2.1wins-0.12per pick40cpaid-33.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x3cfb…f786backed FURIA31c258.06$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8013119.8%26 W · 105 L-10.7wins-0.08per pick28cpaid-31.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed FURIA46c255.48$117 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$117.142,06641.5%858 W · 1,208 L-49.5wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-16.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x58ea…538dbacked FURIA20c240.6$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4820549.8%102 W · 103 L-3.6wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-10.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8912…1712backed FURIA30c200$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6027735.7%99 W · 178 L-5.0wins-0.02per pick38cpaid-15.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7635…63f6backed FURIA71c200$142 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14217548%84 W · 91 L+2.6wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x35ea…99bcbacked 3DMAX74c198.34$147 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.5713657.4%78 W · 58 L+0.6wins0.00per pick57cpaid-5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x37f8…b5e5backed 3DMAX42c190.73$81 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$109.8744743.8%196 W · 251 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-12.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked FURIA16c184.91$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.435,51147%2,590 W · 2,921 L+42.0wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-4.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x506b…3f70backed 3DMAX65c184.44$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.766858.8%40 W · 28 L+6.2wins+0.09per pick50cpaid+1.8%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xf00f…4267backed FURIA33c172.73$57 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5760%0 W · 6 L-1.8wins-0.31per pick31cpaid-100%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xe2d5…c615backed 3DMAX29c171.69$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$121.97335.6%26 W · 47 L-1.5wins-0.02per pick38cpaid-7.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x75c7…909dbacked FURIA60c166.67$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1006643.9%29 W · 37 L-2.8wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-13.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8f5a…aca1backed FURIA73c163.01$119 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1197365.8%48 W · 25 L+4.6wins+0.06per pick59cpaid+10.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xa9f5…937fbacked FURIA33c156.55$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.633,91036.6%1,431 W · 2,479 L-197.6wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-29.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x5e38…de0fbacked 3DMAX58c152.65$88 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.3815760.5%95 W · 62 L+15.8wins+0.10per pick50cpaid+10.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x0b35…01d0backed FURIA60c152.45$91 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$91.471258.3%7 W · 5 L+0.8wins+0.06per pick52cpaid+16.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x20b2…f114backed 3DMAX43c150.65$65 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$85.876437.5%24 W · 40 L+1.6wins+0.02per pick35cpaid-1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x88b5…7b0bbacked FURIA13c143.53$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.510227.5%28 W · 74 L-9.6wins-0.09per pick37cpaid-39.5%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0x34d5…e0c1backed FURIA27c142$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.536555.9%204 W · 161 L+13.4wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+2.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf0b0…8cabbacked 3DMAX62c138.23$85 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.1429547.8%141 W · 154 L+10.7wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-11.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf898…e720backed 3DMAX33c137.07$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$91.31,37845.2%623 W · 755 L+17.9wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-7.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3021…5133backed FURIA73c131.67$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.121811.1%2 W · 16 L-5.7wins-0.32per pick43cpaid-76.4%equal weight35-0.13 edge/pick
0xc26c…ffddbacked FURIA10c130$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$134047.5%19 W · 21 L+0.2wins0.00per pick47cpaid+11.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4814…9a18backed FURIA73c126.18$92 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92.073243.8%14 W · 18 L-5.1wins-0.16per pick60cpaid-27.2%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xa649…af7dbacked FURIA72c122$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87.842437.5%9 W · 15 L-4.3wins-0.18per pick56cpaid-30.7%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x20bb…de85backed 3DMAX70c118.59$83 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35.74757.1%4 W · 3 L+0.1wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+5.4%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed FURIA54c111.59$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.461,03361.6%636 W · 397 L+87.2wins+0.08per pick53cpaid+11.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xf4f8…5bf1backed FURIA26c103$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26.371,30426.5%345 W · 959 L-89.4wins-0.07per pick33cpaid-29.2%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xf456…3855backed 3DMAX34c102.94$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$67.9410128.7%29 W · 72 L-5.7wins-0.06per pick34cpaid-29.2%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed 3DMAX55c100.97$56 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45.4256732.5%184 W · 383 L-30.0wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-36.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7b67…e889backed FURIA26c100.27$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.97939.2%31 W · 48 L-5.2wins-0.07per pick46cpaid-26.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x996c…b6ecbacked FURIA10c100$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1018860.1%113 W · 75 L+6.7wins+0.04per pick57cpaid-2.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb898…151cbacked FURIA60c99.19$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6010353.4%55 W · 48 L-7.7wins-0.07per pick61cpaid-16.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x757d…1496backed 3DMAX58c94.29$55 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39.624649.6%122 W · 124 L+10.7wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+8.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4dfe…d83fbacked FURIA60c91.1$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54.668356.6%47 W · 36 L+3.0wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+4.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x94f1…b9e7backed 3DMAX61c82.23$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32.0734848.3%168 W · 180 L-7.4wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-12.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xca29…a1d0backed FURIA45c79.48$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.5822844.3%101 W · 127 L-9.8wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-8.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xa07d…a037backed FURIA36c77.73$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28.282,10216.8%353 W · 1,749 L-286.5wins-0.14per pick30cpaid-47.2%equal weight35-0.13 edge/pick
0xe12f…8ffebacked FURIA29c69.44$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20366.7%2 W · 1 L+1.0wins+0.32per pick35cpaid+78%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x60b8…d47dbacked FURIA73c68.49$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5060857.2%348 W · 260 L-7.4wins-0.01per pick58cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7d7f…86d2backed FURIA25c65.98$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.3217836.5%65 W · 113 L+0.1wins0.00per pick36cpaid-16.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1cdd…e595backed FURIA32c65.91$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20.972,46824.6%607 W · 1,861 L-317.8wins-0.13per pick37cpaid-51.7%equal weight36-0.13 edge/pick
0x3fd1…17ccbacked FURIA45c54.04$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.327428.4%21 W · 53 L-2.3wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-29.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3726…8521backed FURIA50c50$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$258145.7%37 W · 44 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-5.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x80d8…b703backed FURIA46c45.31$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20.951,67651.1%857 W · 819 L+21.2wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfc8f…3782backed FURIA43c41.35$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17.829128.5%83 W · 208 L-30.2wins-0.10per pick39cpaid-38.7%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.