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NHL · resolved market

Oilers vs. Golden Knights

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Oilersof Oilers, Golden Knights
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NHLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$481,839
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$509,486

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $481,839 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 459 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NHL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NHL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x727b…d1a2backed Golden Knights50c22,330$11,254 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,253.5511441.2%47 W · 67 L-1.7wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-26%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Golden Knights35c21,511$7,563 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,563.381,35452.6%712 W · 642 L+46.2wins+0.03per pick49cpaid-8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x7ba5…aaf1backed Golden Knights32c20,007$6,468 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,467.7410343.7%45 W · 58 L-2.8wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-1.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x245b…00c5backed Golden Knights54c19,484$10,522 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,521.628749.4%43 W · 44 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe32e…890bbacked Oilers45c17,824$8,021 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,803.3536242%152 W · 210 L-6.9wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-8.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Oilers54c14,518$7,815 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,703.111,02540.8%418 W · 607 L+15.6wins+0.02per pick39cpaid-3.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xee03…3eeabacked Oilers54c14,354$7,804 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,550.2517448.9%85 W · 89 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa8f2…5495backed Oilers49c14,217$6,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,317.394151.2%21 W · 20 L-1.4wins-0.03per pick55cpaid-8.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x21ed…16f3backed Golden Knights72c13,892$9,936 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,935.59666.7%4 W · 2 L+0.3wins+0.04per pick62cpaid+10.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x574e…3ef1backed Golden Knights45c12,925$5,874 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,874.295843.1%25 W · 33 L-2.1wins-0.04per pick47cpaid+4.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5486…f674backed Oilers45c9,995$4,498 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,497.25250%1 W · 1 L+0.1wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+11.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4f8e…3c44backed Golden Knights55c9,995$5,497 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,497.25250%1 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.08per pick57cpaid-16.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb786…b18dbacked Golden Knights57c7,407$4,231 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,230.9792848.5%450 W · 478 L+17.6wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+5.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0f66…8938backed Golden Knights29c7,315$2,113 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,112.729750.5%49 W · 48 L-2.5wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdc84…3e67backed Oilers47c6,637$3,134 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,503.434852.1%25 W · 23 L+3.1wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+5.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xa82b…5220backed Golden Knights51c6,527$3,347 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,347.1626547.5%126 W · 139 L+9.8wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-1.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8768…dd9bbacked Oilers72c5,977$4,320 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,656.681877.8%14 W · 4 L+3.1wins+0.17per pick61cpaid+37.8%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Oilers44c5,000$2,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,8001,44149.2%709 W · 732 L+6.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x977a…f2cabacked Golden Knights6c4,960$291 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$290.961,1632.3%27 W · 1,136 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick3cpaid-87.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbde5…9c38backed Oilers43c4,713$2,029 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,683.5766951%341 W · 328 L-14.2wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-3.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9443…e5ecbacked Oilers41c4,653$1,889 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,764.65333.3%1 W · 2 L+0.1wins+0.04per pick30cpaid-17.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe0db…f44ebacked Golden Knights54c4,507$2,454 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,453.639752.1%207 W · 190 L+2.6wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x821d…0a01backed Golden Knights57c4,349$2,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,50021652.3%113 W · 103 L+12.8wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+11.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x1d3a…7b63backed Oilers44c4,295$1,890 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,405.4586649.9%432 W · 434 L+1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3e04…564dbacked Oilers44c4,295$1,890 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,405.351,89152.4%991 W · 900 L+36.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2227…b572backed Oilers41c4,189$1,729 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,459.413743.2%16 W · 21 L+1.3wins+0.04per pick40cpaid-10.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3a9e…f27abacked Golden Knights57c4,000$2,280 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,279.992669.2%18 W · 8 L+2.8wins+0.11per pick59cpaid+27.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xf619…4efebacked Oilers43c3,985$1,714 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,271.45540%2 W · 3 L-0.3wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x70f8…d0d5backed Golden Knights47c3,865$1,830 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,830.3127958.8%164 W · 115 L-1.0wins0.00per pick59cpaid-3.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa320…8232backed Oilers48c3,551$1,711 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,840.152161.9%13 W · 8 L+1.2wins+0.06per pick56cpaid+8.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x81f5…70afbacked Oilers48c3,500$1,680 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,82020751.2%106 W · 101 L+10.9wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+11.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xa530…4280backed Oilers39c3,496$1,362 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,133.451050%5 W · 5 L+1.6wins+0.16per pick34cpaid+84.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x5fad…1d0abacked Oilers44c3,005$1,322 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,682.75714.3%1 W · 6 L-1.6wins-0.23per pick37cpaid-67.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf189…4c6bbacked Golden Knights56c3,000$1,680 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,6801346.2%6 W · 7 L-0.3wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-2.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7988…9619backed Oilers45c3,000$1,350 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,6502334.8%8 W · 15 L-1.3wins-0.06per pick40cpaid-23%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x76c8…ba09backed Golden Knights37c2,974$1,091 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,090.762339.1%9 W · 14 L-1.5wins-0.07per pick46cpaid-28.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed Golden Knights44c2,884$1,266 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,265.643,70450.5%1,871 W · 1,833 L+105.5wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7d2a…ca37backed Oilers46c2,828$1,287 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,540.6415261.8%94 W · 58 L+4.4wins+0.03per pick59cpaid+2.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x99cf…a86abacked Golden Knights59c2,790$1,660 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,660.035754.4%31 W · 26 L+4.5wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+17.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x1f84…560fbacked Golden Knights55c2,745$1,508 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,5084856.3%27 W · 21 L+4.5wins+0.09per pick47cpaid+16.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xa49b…4c40backed Golden Knights55c2,705$1,488 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,487.7526344.5%117 W · 146 L+0.7wins0.00per pick44cpaid-9.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x38e0…ccb5backed Oilers46c2,646$1,217 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,428.652770.4%19 W · 8 L+3.9wins+0.15per pick56cpaid+24.2%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0xa315…cabbbacked Golden Knights55c2,600$1,430 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,43032251.9%167 W · 155 L+4.4wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+4.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xed61…9aa3backed Oilers58c2,597$1,513 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,083.3358467.5%394 W · 190 L+93.1wins+0.16per pick52cpaid+32.9%equal weight67+0.15 edge/pick
0x4103…9b9ebacked Oilers35c2,578$914 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,664.428842%121 W · 167 L-12.4wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-13.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xad94…85b1backed Oilers45c2,478$1,105 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,373.322751.9%14 W · 13 L+1.6wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+10.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7d07…0351backed Oilers42c2,417$1,011 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,405.634050%20 W · 20 L+6.0wins+0.15per pick35cpaid+29.1%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x1ca3…48a9backed Oilers76c2,388$1,824 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$563.736764.2%43 W · 24 L+9.5wins+0.14per pick50cpaid+30.6%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0xe216…7448backed Golden Knights30c2,360$700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70014539.3%57 W · 88 L-3.9wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-6.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x71cd…912dbacked Golden Knights23c2,207$506 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$505.9118237.9%69 W · 113 L+29.4wins+0.16per pick22cpaid+202.9%equal weight66+0.14 edge/pick
0xd3cf…a5d4backed Oilers46c2,177$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,177.2850%4 W · 4 L+0.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+6.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xecb1…5da3backed Golden Knights52c2,010$1,045 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,045.111352.2%59 W · 54 L+2.6wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+0.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2373…ddfabacked Golden Knights55c2,008$1,105 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,104.669942.4%42 W · 57 L-6.2wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-16.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf586…f614backed Golden Knights56c2,000$1,120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,1201553.3%8 W · 7 L+0.9wins+0.06per pick47cpaid-4.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xd65a…5529backed Oilers45c2,000$896 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,103.24650%3 W · 3 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick52cpaid+3.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd04d…d0e5backed Golden Knights55c1,991$1,102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,102.4997651.6%504 W · 472 L-3.9wins0.00per pick52cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xafba…e61bbacked Oilers44c1,990$875 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,114.2216645.8%76 W · 90 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-5.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe25b…0f1bbacked Golden Knights52c1,923$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0001855.6%10 W · 8 L+1.2wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+13.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2b3a…da24backed Oilers45c1,900$855 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0451100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.55per pick45cpaid+122.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe85e…2aebbacked Golden Knights53c1,818$964 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$963.6330%0 W · 3 L-1.9wins-0.63per pick63cpaid-100%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xbedb…8687backed Golden Knights58c1,724$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,000887.5%7 W · 1 L+2.2wins+0.27per pick60cpaid+51.5%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xdbb9…ed8dbacked Golden Knights56c1,712$955 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$954.621,23053.7%661 W · 569 L-9.1wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3dc8…e126backed Oilers56c1,606$900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$706.082755.6%15 W · 12 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick55cpaid-4.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb5e7…3c1abacked Golden Knights54c1,521$828 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$828.1775155.8%419 W · 332 L+12.1wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+2.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1642…5988backed Oilers46c1,518$704 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$814.3610739.3%42 W · 65 L-11.1wins-0.10per pick50cpaid-27.1%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xe1d5…5684backed Golden Knights48c1,502$718 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$717.6630%0 W · 3 L-1.3wins-0.43per pick43cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xbd1e…ff14backed Oilers43c1,450$623 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$826.4748050.6%243 W · 237 L+12.6wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x659c…8dfcbacked Oilers73c1,447$1,057 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$390.661580%12 W · 3 L+1.7wins+0.11per pick69cpaid+15.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x594f…392cbacked Golden Knights57c1,400$798 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7981266.7%8 W · 4 L+1.9wins+0.16per pick51cpaid+34.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc91a…c6b8backed Golden Knights47c1,400$654 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$654.51942.1%8 W · 11 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-6.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2765…94cbbacked Oilers44c1,400$616 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$783.95475%3 W · 1 L+0.9wins+0.22per pick53cpaid+31.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x77d6…4fd2backed Oilers72c1,397$1,011 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$386.6611057.3%63 W · 47 L-2.0wins-0.02per pick59cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc8b4…f05dbacked Golden Knights55c1,348$742 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$741.5419555.4%108 W · 87 L+9.2wins+0.05per pick51cpaid+8.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x12d6…dbbcbacked Golden Knights55c1,331$732 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$732.2711145.9%51 W · 60 L-2.3wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-6.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0fae…3488backed Oilers32c1,320$422 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$897.69550.5%48 W · 47 L+5.8wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+7.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x7f65…d7aebacked Oilers48c1,255$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$655.314844.6%66 W · 82 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-7.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x29c0…efaabacked Golden Knights55c1,229$675 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$675.231,63650.4%825 W · 811 L-20.9wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd44c…ab91backed Golden Knights61c1,078$662 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$661.741952.6%10 W · 9 L-1.0wins-0.05per pick58cpaid-11.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xf7c4…5919backed Golden Knights45c1,078$486 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48654418%98 W · 446 L+3.7wins+0.01per pick17cpaid-6.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x24df…e8b2backed Golden Knights43c1,072$456 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$456.0637738.7%146 W · 231 L-8.1wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-8.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x91b0…f0b6backed Oilers43c1,044$449 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$595.08785.7%6 W · 1 L+1.9wins+0.28per pick58cpaid+51.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x480d…f219backed Golden Knights55c1,000$550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55085148.5%413 W · 438 L-48.2wins-0.06per pick54cpaid-11.6%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x3b88…d628backed Golden Knights55c1,000$550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5505534.5%19 W · 36 L-6.0wins-0.11per pick46cpaid-21.6%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0xe6ac…957dbacked Oilers44c999.92$440 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$559.964650%23 W · 23 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid-6.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcc17…7b65backed Golden Knights56c964.29$540 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54010%0 W · 1 L-0.6wins-0.56per pick56cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5f7e…d88bbacked Golden Knights56c937.5$525 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$525250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-5.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x19b8…9c8ebacked Oilers33c909.24$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$609.2419438.1%74 W · 120 L-3.9wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-6.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4d9a…4e25backed Golden Knights27c900.05$245 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$244.794641.3%19 W · 27 L-1.8wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-12.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb13d…2e90backed Golden Knights55c842.63$466 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$465.9784051.4%432 W · 408 L+19.1wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0f69…23cbbacked Golden Knights17c800$134 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13411127%30 W · 81 L+0.4wins0.00per pick27cpaid-13%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb0cc…73e6backed Golden Knights52c799.6$416 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$415.84143.9%18 W · 23 L+0.8wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf42a…8470backed Golden Knights33c769.21$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25021620.4%44 W · 172 L-11.0wins-0.05per pick25cpaid-34.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf0b0…8cabbacked Oilers54c768.53$416 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$352.0391334.1%311 W · 602 L-27.1wins-0.03per pick37cpaid-22.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfbe1…4e47backed Golden Knights70c744.37$521 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$521.06560%3 W · 2 L-0.4wins-0.08per pick68cpaid-17.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x698a…e498backed Golden Knights30c728.8$220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2202650%13 W · 13 L+2.5wins+0.10per pick40cpaid+9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xa2f1…2d22backed Oilers46c720$331 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$388.88854.5%48 W · 40 L+3.7wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+0.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x7662…356bbacked Oilers43c674.17$293 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$381.2120649.5%102 W · 104 L+3.5wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf282…8d92backed Oilers36c672.38$240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$432.38616.7%1 W · 5 L-2.2wins-0.36per pick53cpaid-53.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x1208…0160backed Oilers30c670$201 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$469.314542.8%62 W · 83 L+9.4wins+0.06per pick36cpaid+1.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x4e12…7348backed Oilers45c663.11$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$363.1112556.8%71 W · 54 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NHL and say nothing about this market.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.