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Lol · resolved market

LoL: Hanwha Life Esports vs T1 - Game 2 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
T1of Hanwha Life Esports, T1
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$166,994
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$189,673

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $166,994 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 172 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x357e…2a0cbacked T123c11,646$2,654 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,992.5712132.2%39 W · 82 L+6.8wins+0.06per pick27cpaid-5.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x8c0b…7aa5backed T149c9,769$4,817 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,952.731,63040.1%654 W · 976 L+48.3wins+0.03per pick37cpaid-1.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa2e4…bf9dbacked T122c8,955$1,997 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,957.9567552.4%354 W · 321 L+10.9wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+6.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcb43…3c74backed T136c7,164$2,565 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,598.887030%21 W · 49 L-0.2wins0.00per pick30cpaid-33.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb569…5695backed Hanwha Life Esports51c6,387$3,231 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,231.186147.5%29 W · 32 L+3.2wins+0.05per pick42cpaid-2.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x95b8…47c9backed T157c4,914$2,790 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,123.7566947.8%320 W · 349 L-0.8wins0.00per pick48cpaid-0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc36b…a540backed Hanwha Life Esports53c4,484$2,374 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,373.5631644.3%140 W · 176 L+1.5wins0.00per pick44cpaid-13.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2286…3ccfbacked Hanwha Life Esports45c3,768$1,707 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,707.271723.5%4 W · 13 L-3.5wins-0.21per pick44cpaid-64.5%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x4f5b…d411backed Hanwha Life Esports76c3,663$2,789 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,788.873366.7%22 W · 11 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick66cpaid+1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked T152c3,327$1,724 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,602.091,59842.4%677 W · 921 L-17.9wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-14.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5388…4d5abacked T141c3,050$1,259 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,791.3119041.1%78 W · 112 L+6.9wins+0.04per pick37cpaid+35.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xdea3…e4babacked T152c2,964$1,547 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,417.431866.7%12 W · 6 L+2.4wins+0.13per pick54cpaid+22.8%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xc29d…3352backed Hanwha Life Esports47c2,960$1,380 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,379.615354.2%83 W · 70 L-7.2wins-0.05per pick59cpaid-10.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xe265…7069backed T149c2,590$1,275 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,314.91553.3%8 W · 7 L+0.4wins+0.03per pick50cpaid-11.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdc7e…08fdbacked Hanwha Life Esports50c2,467$1,232 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,232.31616.7%1 W · 5 L-1.2wins-0.20per pick37cpaid-36%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x76b4…ca9bbacked Hanwha Life Esports61c2,419$1,480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,480.3444550.1%223 W · 222 L-5.9wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-8.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9376…c075backed Hanwha Life Esports55c2,341$1,289 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,288.943852.6%20 W · 18 L-1.8wins-0.05per pick57cpaid-14.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3461…4629backed Hanwha Life Esports48c2,325$1,114 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,113.618655.8%48 W · 38 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick57cpaid-10.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7b75…3fd1backed Hanwha Life Esports12c2,049$254 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$253.894134.5%325 W · 616 L+33.6wins+0.04per pick31cpaid-1.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4f3f…bb7cbacked Hanwha Life Esports50c2,000$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0001957.9%11 W · 8 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick57cpaid+30%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2abb…aeccbacked Hanwha Life Esports37c2,000$740 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$740.24250%21 W · 21 L-2.1wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-15%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf353…b287backed Hanwha Life Esports7c1,813$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119.6923915.9%38 W · 201 L+10.3wins+0.04per pick12cpaid+53.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xa2f1…2d22backed T146c1,776$815 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$961.0710048%48 W · 52 L-6.2wins-0.06per pick54cpaid-10.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Hanwha Life Esports44c1,737$767 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$766.722,40642.6%1,026 W · 1,380 L+21.5wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-5.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Hanwha Life Esports64c1,728$1,110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,110.1985046%391 W · 459 L-11.0wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-13.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbdac…f7e2backed Hanwha Life Esports51c1,492$768 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7681241.7%5 W · 7 L-0.7wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-22.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3a09…f9f7backed Hanwha Life Esports49c1,430$701 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$701.361,59253.7%855 W · 737 L+57.2wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+8.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2765…7ee4backed T150c1,427$710 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$717.4348448.6%235 W · 249 L+12.5wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x1ffc…8967backed Hanwha Life Esports41c1,406$577 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$577.3823624.6%58 W · 178 L-7.6wins-0.03per pick28cpaid-19.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Hanwha Life Esports53c1,400$738 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$737.83,58440.1%1,437 W · 2,147 L+31.1wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0969…b289backed Hanwha Life Esports49c1,370$674 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67439750.1%199 W · 198 L+5.5wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf5d0…d9e8backed T146c1,357$624 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$732.7585746.3%397 W · 460 L+17.4wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+3.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd903…bf9dbacked Hanwha Life Esports38c1,352$518 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$517.938438.1%32 W · 52 L-4.1wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-23.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xbbba…f349backed T149c1,346$656 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$690.03333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.3wins-0.11per pick44cpaid-31.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb737…98b9backed T176c1,322$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$322.263053.3%16 W · 14 L-3.3wins-0.11per pick64cpaid-21.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xd1f2…e9dabacked T157c1,228$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$528.0710456.7%59 W · 45 L-3.1wins-0.03per pick60cpaid-9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7600…4478backed Hanwha Life Esports49c1,190$583 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$582.8731036.1%112 W · 198 L-18.3wins-0.06per pick42cpaid-17.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x8ddb…420bbacked Hanwha Life Esports73c1,117$818 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$818.4714150.4%71 W · 70 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-8.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd202…964dbacked Hanwha Life Esports2c1,100$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.77220%0 W · 22 L-1.1wins-0.05per pick5cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x0e91…ea34backed Hanwha Life Esports72c999.99$724 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$724.0650569.9%353 W · 152 L+15.1wins+0.03per pick67cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfc04…f726backed Hanwha Life Esports54c999.99$540 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54075738.6%292 W · 465 L+7.9wins+0.01per pick38cpaid-3.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x827a…8a2bbacked Hanwha Life Esports52c999.99$520 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52013543%58 W · 77 L+0.5wins0.00per pick43cpaid-5.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd397…5052backed Hanwha Life Esports55c909.53$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5007451.4%38 W · 36 L-11.0wins-0.15per pick66cpaid-25.7%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0xdb3a…0338backed T157c878.51$501 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$377.764542.2%19 W · 26 L-2.9wins-0.07per pick49cpaid-7.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xbde3…4a49backed T150c746.53$373 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$373.2723447.9%112 W · 122 L+6.1wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+2.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x395f…dcacbacked T157c703.58$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$303.5826245.8%120 W · 142 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe3d4…2bacbacked T159c699.66$415 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$284.2970162.2%436 W · 265 L-37.3wins-0.05per pick68cpaid-8.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xb3ab…ff0cbacked Hanwha Life Esports56c660.63$368 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$367.833847.4%18 W · 20 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-18.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x85d9…717bbacked T146c612$282 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$330.482231.8%7 W · 15 L-3.8wins-0.17per pick49cpaid-33.7%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xca67…c864backed T150c600.68$302 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$298.6518744.9%84 W · 103 L+7.2wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+5.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe1db…00debacked Hanwha Life Esports50c597.84$299 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$298.9220%0 W · 2 L-0.9wins-0.47per pick47cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2586…f071backed T177c594.27$460 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$134.3525952.9%137 W · 122 L+10.2wins+0.04per pick49cpaid-15.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe063…8a04backed Hanwha Life Esports34c541.27$184 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$183.914338.5%55 W · 88 L-0.5wins0.00per pick39cpaid-27.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xaee7…1e5bbacked Hanwha Life Esports50c500$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25029536.9%109 W · 186 L-10.7wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-12.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x70b1…47e9backed Hanwha Life Esports68c500$340 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34010%0 W · 1 L-0.7wins-0.68per pick68cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x73da…b7acbacked T148c499.99$240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26032457.7%187 W · 137 L+3.7wins+0.01per pick57cpaid-0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcdf3…1bb5backed Hanwha Life Esports51c444.92$227 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$226.9140232.8%132 W · 270 L-21.3wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-17.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2f1f…aa39backed T152c432.47$226 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$206.8146153.6%247 W · 214 L-24.4wins-0.05per pick59cpaid-9.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7175…08f1backed T147c423.4$199 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$224.4771.4%5 W · 2 L+2.0wins+0.29per pick42cpaid+75.3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x8044…358ebacked Hanwha Life Esports80c401.67$320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$319.8425466.5%169 W · 85 L+22.1wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+14.7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x43ac…86d0backed Hanwha Life Esports50c400.24$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2004755.3%26 W · 21 L-1.6wins-0.03per pick59cpaid-4.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8c9c…bcfcbacked T151c400$204 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1963444.1%15 W · 19 L-1.6wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-10.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfacf…44adbacked T148c400$190 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2107544%33 W · 42 L-5.5wins-0.07per pick51cpaid-26.3%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x5cab…a8cfbacked Hanwha Life Esports73c385.53$282 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$281.7721965.8%144 W · 75 L-9.8wins-0.04per pick70cpaid-5.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xd3b1…19bbbacked T154c370.37$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$170.3718755.1%103 W · 84 L-8.8wins-0.05per pick60cpaid-9.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe3de…f2ffbacked T127c370$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.11457.1%8 W · 6 L+3.8wins+0.27per pick30cpaid+77.2%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0xb7b3…9573backed T163c367.8$230 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$137.741,80639.1%707 W · 1,099 L-30.8wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-12%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x36a9…c1d3backed Hanwha Life Esports67c352.33$235 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$234.621070%7 W · 3 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick68cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0cd8…1cd8backed Hanwha Life Esports50c299.99$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$149.99633.3%2 W · 4 L-1.9wins-0.32per pick65cpaid-48.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xb820…ad71backed Hanwha Life Esports69c290.37$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2002875%21 W · 7 L+4.4wins+0.16per pick59cpaid+28.8%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed T143c280$121 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$158.7370443.9%309 W · 395 L-15.1wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-14.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xef1a…d048backed Hanwha Life Esports49c250$123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122.512444.4%55 W · 69 L+0.2wins0.00per pick44cpaid-9.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7666…57ecbacked T139c247.02$96 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.02728.6%2 W · 5 L+0.8wins+0.11per pick17cpaid-18.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xed5d…bc81backed T149c245.8$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$125.87250%36 W · 36 L+5.1wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+5.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xb82b…3a09backed T153c229$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$108.7618046.7%84 W · 96 L-5.1wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-7.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x096f…5c68backed Hanwha Life Esports46c227.39$105 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10521644%95 W · 121 L+4.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+4.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9784…e452backed T143c224.39$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$127.395650%28 W · 28 L+3.5wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+6.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xcae6…4f85backed T150c219.72$110 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$110.2167276.9%517 W · 155 L+87.3wins+0.13per pick64cpaid+30.2%equal weight64+0.13 edge/pick
0xbb11…66cbbacked Hanwha Life Esports43c210$89 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$89.31,01955.8%569 W · 450 L+22.7wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4bfc…ce53backed T148c210$101 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$109.214158.2%82 W · 59 L-0.1wins0.00per pick58cpaid-2.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xefb9…e74fbacked T156c203.09$114 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$89.361952.6%10 W · 9 L+0.7wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+0.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc76b…5fbabacked T152c202.23$105 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$97.071145.5%5 W · 6 L-1.2wins-0.11per pick57cpaid-27.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xc316…778dbacked Hanwha Life Esports50c200.99$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.497154.9%39 W · 32 L-0.2wins0.00per pick55cpaid-4.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1351…bebcbacked Hanwha Life Esports45c200$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9012450%62 W · 62 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2bd4…ea9abacked T145c200$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1102853.6%15 W · 13 L+1.2wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+4.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb80d…0ac1backed T149c200$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10350547.7%241 W · 264 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6d32…fe50backed Hanwha Life Esports68c199.99$135 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1351241.7%5 W · 7 L0.0wins0.00per pick42cpaid-33.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5530…d38dbacked Hanwha Life Esports47c199.99$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$941,35651.1%693 W · 663 L-21.2wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5024…b8bcbacked T150c196.1$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98.0521255.2%117 W · 95 L-11.4wins-0.05per pick61cpaid-12.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x0e88…f3c9backed Hanwha Life Esports42c191.88$81 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$81.021127.3%3 W · 8 L-0.5wins-0.05per pick32cpaid-39.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x073a…6f98backed T148c165.15$79 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$86.175152.9%27 W · 24 L+1.5wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+7.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc75a…1ab2backed Hanwha Life Esports36c163.97$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.737869.8%77 W · 709 L+22.8wins+0.03per pick7cpaid+41.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf54a…e25dbacked T148c145.83$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$75.8315236.2%55 W · 97 L-3.1wins-0.02per pick38cpaid-12.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x08f8…0e43backed Hanwha Life Esports72c141.68$102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.011838.9%7 W · 11 L-2.0wins-0.11per pick50cpaid-28.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x469f…3d4fbacked Hanwha Life Esports71c140.85$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10019640.3%79 W · 117 L+0.8wins0.00per pick40cpaid-2.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa80f…4fa0backed T140c138.16$56 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$82.32343.5%10 W · 13 L-0.2wins-0.01per pick44cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4948…08bdbacked Hanwha Life Esports73c136.99$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10029833.9%101 W · 197 L-4.2wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-7.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf035…0924backed Hanwha Life Esports73c136.24$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.4534050%170 W · 170 L+4.5wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd347…a708backed T141c135.09$55 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$79.81060%6 W · 4 L+1.2wins+0.12per pick48cpaid+10.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xec41…1134backed T151c130$66 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.724655.7%137 W · 109 L+12.4wins+0.05per pick51cpaid+7.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.