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Lol · resolved market

LoL: Team Liquid vs Sentinels - Game 2 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Sentinelsof Team Liquid, Sentinels
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$224,992
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$239,196

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $224,992 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 138 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x9fe1…4d7fbacked Team Liquid66c43,516$28,849 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28,848.6912161.2%74 W · 47 L+10.8wins+0.09per pick52cpaid+23%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xdcfe…44b5backed Sentinels33c15,555$5,133 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,421.8531153.4%166 W · 145 L-9.4wins-0.03per pick56cpaid-8.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xef26…05babacked Sentinels38c10,840$4,144 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,696.081,25937.6%473 W · 786 L+34.1wins+0.03per pick35cpaid-1.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2586…f071backed Team Liquid6c8,217$481 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$481.3325952.9%137 W · 122 L+10.2wins+0.04per pick49cpaid-15.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Team Liquid50c8,000$4,020 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,019.561,59842.4%677 W · 921 L-17.9wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-14.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5286…0d47backed Sentinels36c4,991$1,812 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,178.6827637.3%103 W · 173 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick37cpaid+4.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xad72…4f5ebacked Sentinels61c4,673$2,860 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,812.2875942%319 W · 440 L+5.2wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-7.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Sentinels33c4,630$1,528 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,102.2790348.4%437 W · 466 L+14.5wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+7.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked Sentinels34c4,299$1,470 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,829.061,15842.6%493 W · 665 L-23.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-20.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xcdfb…980cbacked Sentinels35c4,270$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,770.519150.8%97 W · 94 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-7.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf291…6d59backed Sentinels32c4,174$1,353 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,820.73425%1 W · 3 L0.0wins+0.01per pick24cpaid-22.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe04f…f11fbacked Team Liquid49c4,139$2,039 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,039.46742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.5wins-0.07per pick49cpaid-14%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Team Liquid49c3,916$1,914 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,913.571,00342.5%426 W · 577 L-24.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-19.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x437c…f458backed Sentinels54c3,277$1,778 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,498.8126246.6%122 W · 140 L-5.6wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-7.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbc57…f5f4backed Team Liquid68c3,251$2,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,20016050.6%81 W · 79 L-4.4wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-10.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xafd4…7e61backed Sentinels35c2,555$883 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,671.841,20054.1%649 W · 551 L+28.9wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Team Liquid46c2,518$1,167 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,167.231,25838.6%485 W · 773 L-61.8wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-20.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe167…03a1backed Team Liquid70c2,371$1,670 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,67085652.2%447 W · 409 L+34.8wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+4.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xc983…ebf0backed Team Liquid54c2,139$1,160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,159.583455.9%19 W · 15 L+1.4wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+0.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xbe8c…9e9ebacked Team Liquid65c2,100$1,365 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,364.9917839.3%70 W · 108 L-2.9wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-11%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x3008…50d9backed Sentinels32c1,956$635 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,321.481258.3%7 W · 5 L+2.6wins+0.21per pick37cpaid+72.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x0fbc…62a3backed Team Liquid33c1,910$627 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$626.663161.2%386 W · 245 L+10.4wins+0.02per pick60cpaid-1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Sentinels34c1,796$613 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,183.293,58440.1%1,437 W · 2,147 L+31.1wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Team Liquid18c1,776$319 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$318.552,82541.4%1,169 W · 1,656 L-14.1wins0.00per pick42cpaid-4.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xd320…097ebacked Team Liquid63c1,742$1,096 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,096.315545.8%71 W · 84 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+9.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9738backed Team Liquid53c1,690$889 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$889.160053.2%319 W · 281 L+15.3wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+1.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x5cc5…1135backed Team Liquid2c1,500$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3044042%185 W · 255 L+4.1wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-7.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9055…756abacked Team Liquid7c1,200$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.967062.9%44 W · 26 L+7.3wins+0.10per pick52cpaid+39.4%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x0588…8f18backed Team Liquid32c1,112$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$359.925038%95 W · 155 L+20.2wins+0.08per pick30cpaid+25.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xc8da…a6e6backed Sentinels32c1,104$352 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$751.9312839.8%51 W · 77 L-4.3wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-16.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xec0e…672cbacked Team Liquid33c1,027$342 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$341.8353640.3%216 W · 320 L-8.1wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-19.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xba0c…f837backed Team Liquid57c1,000$572 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$571.9921857.8%126 W · 92 L+18.6wins+0.09per pick49cpaid+16%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x04bd…39a0backed Team Liquid50c1,000$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5001,22945.1%554 W · 675 L+48.5wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+5.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1976…e363backed Team Liquid58c978.21$571 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$570.895240.4%21 W · 31 L-2.9wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-30.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2a35…9015backed Sentinels41c972.51$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$572.5136943.9%162 W · 207 L-16.5wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-9.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x7a0f…1305backed Sentinels67c886.4$593 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$293.881,46361.4%899 W · 564 L-19.5wins-0.01per pick63cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe235…aba2backed Sentinels35c861.93$302 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$559.8957947.3%274 W · 305 L-14.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-8.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xfd96…e623backed Sentinels34c809.99$278 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$532.4439851.8%206 W · 192 L+0.3wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6dc0…699abacked Team Liquid10c800$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8056317.2%97 W · 466 L-16.4wins-0.03per pick20cpaid-17.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x5db5…5df8backed Team Liquid68c627.96$427 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$427.011947.4%9 W · 10 L-1.1wins-0.06per pick53cpaid-6.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xdf06…c9ffbacked Sentinels47c621$293 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$328.0763352%329 W · 304 L+39.3wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+22.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x3ee1…f616backed Sentinels33c606.06$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$406.067342.5%31 W · 42 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-5.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7a78…add7backed Sentinels44c600$261 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$338.8250643.1%218 W · 288 L-6.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-11.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcf0a…320abacked Team Liquid2c512$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.1733251.5%171 W · 161 L+33.0wins+0.10per pick42cpaid+17.3%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xed2c…9597backed Sentinels35c500$175 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32541644.2%184 W · 232 L-9.6wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-11.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1b50…ea47backed Sentinels51c500$255 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2451,29426.6%344 W · 950 L+65.3wins+0.05per pick22cpaid+17.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xf5ea…d07fbacked Sentinels35c500$175 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32595951.3%492 W · 467 L+42.8wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+6.5%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x13c7…11d9backed Team Liquid4c500$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2071249.2%350 W · 362 L+14.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe5c0…bccbbacked Sentinels35c498.4$174 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$323.96944.4%4 W · 5 L+0.9wins+0.10per pick35cpaid+139.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbb11…66cbbacked Sentinels60c478.78$288 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$191.011,01955.8%569 W · 450 L+22.7wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5bd3…394cbacked Sentinels35c456.29$158 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$298.36331.7%20 W · 43 L-9.3wins-0.15per pick47cpaid-26.1%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked Team Liquid28c400$112 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$111.72,00458.2%1,166 W · 838 L+86.9wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+9.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x3fbd…c4e4backed Sentinels50c391.63$197 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$194.7752538.9%204 W · 321 L+18.0wins+0.03per pick35cpaid+4.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9bd4…35b5backed Team Liquid3c380.69$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.421315.4%2 W · 11 L+1.3wins+0.10per pick5cpaid+278.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed Sentinels45c359.25$162 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19770443.9%309 W · 395 L-15.1wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-14.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdda6…925abacked Team Liquid57c359.18$205 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$204.73666.7%4 W · 2 L+0.9wins+0.15per pick51cpaid+31.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x703f…2921backed Team Liquid36c334.58$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1203151.6%16 W · 15 L+2.4wins+0.08per pick44cpaid+7.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x0e91…ea34backed Sentinels74c311$230 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$81.3150569.9%353 W · 152 L+15.1wins+0.03per pick67cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x49a6…a658backed Team Liquid66c303.03$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20050051.6%258 W · 242 L-14.3wins-0.03per pick54cpaid+1.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0535…75ccbacked Sentinels45c300$135 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1651,00949.2%496 W · 513 L+30.0wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+10.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x02d7…0c39backed Sentinels25c300$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22516934.3%58 W · 111 L+18.6wins+0.11per pick23cpaid+29.9%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x2ecb…7645backed Sentinels48c298.23$143 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$155.661,72829.5%509 W · 1,219 L-123.2wins-0.07per pick37cpaid-39.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x0bab…6832backed Sentinels35c285.71$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$185.7150845.3%230 W · 278 L-5.1wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb1aa…16cfbacked Team Liquid73c273.78$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2004362.8%27 W · 16 L-2.7wins-0.06per pick69cpaid-6.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xc0e6…7358backed Team Liquid52c269.3$139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$139.4926344.9%118 W · 145 L-3.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-8.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x47c6…2fe4backed Team Liquid8c253.16$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2056650%283 W · 283 L-14.5wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-5.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe625…94c0backed Sentinels27c249.4$67 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$182.3374344%327 W · 416 L+0.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbafa…02e0backed Team Liquid5c244.9$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1280150.7%406 W · 395 L+48.1wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+8%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x5a3c…38d3backed Team Liquid7c243.82$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1856432.1%181 W · 383 L-2.3wins0.00per pick32cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa794…1361backed Team Liquid6c229.8$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.0710624.5%26 W · 80 L+0.5wins0.00per pick24cpaid-13.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe1d8…e846backed Sentinels47c210$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$111.61560%9 W · 6 L+0.8wins+0.05per pick55cpaid+9.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd142…5c9ebacked Sentinels29c203.45$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$144.4525942.1%109 W · 150 L-12.5wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-8.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x59aa…3376backed Team Liquid68c202.94$138 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1381,13143.1%487 W · 644 L+0.9wins0.00per pick43cpaid+1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd15e…db59backed Sentinels57c175.44$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$75.4421747%102 W · 115 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.8%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x1349…dc1fbacked Sentinels32c170.66$55 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$116.0511750.4%59 W · 58 L-8.3wins-0.07per pick58cpaid-10.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x7c0f…fe01backed Sentinels33c169.85$56 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$113.836260.5%219 W · 143 L-0.5wins0.00per pick61cpaid-1.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9569…27fdbacked Sentinels61c160$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$62.47061.4%43 W · 27 L+1.5wins+0.02per pick59cpaid+4.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x820b…d27abacked Sentinels37c158.32$58 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$100.3214132.6%46 W · 95 L-10.1wins-0.07per pick40cpaid-24.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xf06a…54c2backed Team Liquid66c151.97$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100944.4%4 W · 5 L-0.6wins-0.07per pick52cpaid+3.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd011…ac5dbacked Team Liquid66c150.4$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10025648.4%124 W · 132 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick49cpaid+0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x569f…5561backed Team Liquid7c148$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.365223.1%12 W · 40 L+1.0wins+0.02per pick21cpaid-13.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9ee4…3485backed Sentinels40c146.49$58 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$88.3815854.4%86 W · 72 L-4.7wins-0.03per pick57cpaid-8.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x00f8…2c23backed Sentinels35c142.86$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$92.8638835.3%137 W · 251 L-5.7wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-4.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x0db6…e1babacked Sentinels29c141.97$41 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$100.651656.3%9 W · 7 L+4.4wins+0.28per pick28cpaid+125.5%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0xda16…6da2backed Sentinels29c140$41 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$99.0533552.8%177 W · 158 L+15.5wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+9.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xba50…ad0bbacked Sentinels36c139$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$891,18548.1%570 W · 615 L-2.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid-2.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa4bd…e8a2backed Team Liquid64c133.64$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$85.1854054.3%293 W · 247 L+26.8wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+1.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xb38c…b2c9backed Team Liquid54c130$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70.243148%207 W · 224 L+13.7wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+10.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf7a3…ad9ebacked Sentinels41c121.95$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.9532650.3%164 W · 162 L-0.8wins0.00per pick51cpaid-1.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8d5c…7b06backed Sentinels39c119.23$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72.851546.7%7 W · 8 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-6.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe2e1…c20abacked Team Liquid58c117$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.3530545.2%138 W · 167 L-2.6wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-15.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Sentinels16c113$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$94.482,31139.4%910 W · 1,401 L-83.4wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-20.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5558…f9c4backed Sentinels29c110$32 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.18241.5%34 W · 48 L+2.5wins+0.03per pick38cpaid+6.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2f4b…69debacked Sentinels79c100.68$79 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.511,04846.1%483 W · 565 L-43.8wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-8.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2cdf…cbd9backed Sentinels10c100$10 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$903737.8%14 W · 23 L-1.1wins-0.03per pick41cpaid-8.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x970a…6b89backed Team Liquid65c100$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6541347.7%197 W · 216 L+23.2wins+0.06per pick42cpaid+11.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xa77b…29a8backed Team Liquid63c100$63 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$62.52445.8%11 W · 13 L-1.3wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-22.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4f6a…04ebbacked Sentinels47c96.43$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.1148652.1%253 W · 233 L+2.1wins0.00per pick52cpaid-3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1ca0…38babacked Sentinels33c90.91$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$60.911,44343.4%626 W · 817 L+105.5wins+0.07per pick36cpaid+20.6%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x42b8…5379backed Team Liquid74c89.57$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.2822349.3%110 W · 113 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-2.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 7 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.