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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Timberwolves (-4.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Timberwolvesof Timberwolves, Pelicans
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$186,193
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$225,839

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $186,193 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 102 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x0eb7…1f17backed Timberwolves55c51,636$28,325 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23,311.1142348%203 W · 220 L-5.5wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-15%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x37c1…c53abacked Pelicans51c22,717$11,520 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,520.431,91549.3%944 W · 971 L+19.7wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd69d…fe68backed Pelicans0c21,274$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21.277316.4%12 W · 61 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick17cpaid+1,317.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Pelicans49c10,635$5,187 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,187.071,91054.3%1,038 W · 872 L+25.2wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1d1a…0df6backed Pelicans51c10,559$5,385 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,385.0120744.9%93 W · 114 L-8.4wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-8.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x1117…3532backed Timberwolves49c10,000$4,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,1001,02450.8%520 W · 504 L+18.6wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+5.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2a9c…c8cfbacked Timberwolves65c6,900$4,466 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,4342100%2 W · 0 L+0.7wins+0.34per pick66cpaid+51.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Pelicans49c5,987$2,963 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,963.355,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xafe4…f3f7backed Pelicans53c5,422$2,873 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,873.4915850.6%80 W · 78 L+10.3wins+0.07per pick44cpaid+21.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Timberwolves52c4,974$2,564 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,409.894,78150.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L+20.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7cde…b97dbacked Timberwolves59c3,958$2,345 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,613.2112251.6%63 W · 59 L-5.8wins-0.05per pick56cpaid-9.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Pelicans49c3,841$1,870 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,870.449,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x299f…2140backed Pelicans53c3,688$1,955 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,954.821,14148%548 W · 593 L+9.0wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Pelicans44c2,694$1,178 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,177.641,28243.4%557 W · 725 L-51.2wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-12.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Pelicans42c2,440$1,031 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,031.063,34153.4%1,785 W · 1,556 L+108.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+1.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf6f1…7da3backed Timberwolves56c2,354$1,327 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,026.95450%2 W · 2 L+0.7wins+0.17per pick33cpaid-16.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xbb0b…3790backed Timberwolves23c2,323$534 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,788.5427937.3%104 W · 175 L+57.6wins+0.21per pick17cpaid+187%equal weight71+0.19 edge/pick
0xbf30…8b95backed Pelicans40c2,006$794 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$793.893636.1%13 W · 23 L-2.2wins-0.06per pick42cpaid-8.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7760…21f0backed Timberwolves46c1,935$890 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,045.0146145.6%210 W · 251 L-6.7wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x74a9…0dc7backed Timberwolves53c1,467$777 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$689.439455.3%52 W · 42 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick57cpaid+0.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Pelicans51c1,097$555 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$554.634,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x21f3…35e3backed Timberwolves47c984.91$463 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5222,50748.6%1,219 W · 1,288 L+19.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8788…8aa8backed Timberwolves51c816.33$416 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4001060%6 W · 4 L+1.2wins+0.12per pick48cpaid+24.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xa697…59d5backed Timberwolves49c800.02$390 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$410.471,90148.7%925 W · 976 L+6.5wins0.00per pick48cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x32ed…f960backed Timberwolves58c795.79$461 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$334.642,94951.5%1,519 W · 1,430 L+119.4wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+3.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xbc37…2f65backed Pelicans49c791.35$388 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$387.7641649.8%207 W · 209 L+1.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x161a…4103backed Timberwolves58c751.55$436 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$316.022,46850.5%1,247 W · 1,221 L+38.4wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+0.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5d1d…afd2backed Pelicans54c704.99$381 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$380.6963746.6%297 W · 340 L-16.1wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-7.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8c0d…b612backed Timberwolves53c641.75$340 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$301.623860.5%23 W · 15 L+1.1wins+0.03per pick58cpaid+9.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcf73…0215backed Timberwolves50c600$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3001,27747.2%603 W · 674 L-3.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xab30…379fbacked Pelicans13c400$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5030224.8%75 W · 227 L+15.5wins+0.05per pick20cpaid+43.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x7da4…f0a4backed Pelicans19c400$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$764037.5%15 W · 25 L+7.9wins+0.20per pick18cpaid+93.3%equal weight64+0.12 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed Pelicans50c400$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2005,84446.7%2,728 W · 3,116 L+32.7wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x167f…fa5ebacked Timberwolves33c396.89$131 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$265.921866.7%12 W · 6 L+6.8wins+0.38per pick29cpaid+143.2%equal weight68+0.16 edge/pick
0x5ad5…37b9backed Pelicans21c348.16$74 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.6514438.9%56 W · 88 L+32.5wins+0.23per pick16cpaid+228.3%equal weight71+0.19 edge/pick
0xedf7…8f79backed Pelicans50c300$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1501,39348.3%673 W · 720 L+19.4wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xa6eb…bc82backed Pelicans8c300$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$242623.1%6 W · 20 L+4.4wins+0.17per pick6cpaid+428%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xbb0f…b652backed Timberwolves46c298.27$136 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$162.2326639.8%106 W · 160 L+13.0wins+0.05per pick35cpaid+6.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x228b…af4cbacked Pelicans45c284.74$129 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$128.981,31747.8%629 W · 688 L+15.6wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x20a3…0fcabacked Pelicans8c283.07$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.651513.3%2 W · 13 L+0.9wins+0.06per pick7cpaid+38.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc58d…5a74backed Pelicans52c280.15$146 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$145.687554.7%41 W · 34 L+3.6wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+8.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4f9b…cdeebacked Timberwolves43c274.36$118 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$155.8978639.2%308 W · 478 L+27.5wins+0.03per pick36cpaid-4.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xc74d…9690backed Pelicans24c266$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64.1223649.2%116 W · 120 L+28.6wins+0.12per pick37cpaid+27.6%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0x00d4…4c46backed Pelicans24c266$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64.1221242%89 W · 123 L+12.8wins+0.06per pick36cpaid+8.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x99f7…1a59backed Pelicans24c266$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64.1223441.5%97 W · 137 L+13.6wins+0.06per pick36cpaid+6.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xf6c8…a184backed Timberwolves40c252$102 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$150.0340440.1%162 W · 242 L+12.4wins+0.03per pick37cpaid-2.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xcbbc…2b70backed Pelicans24c250$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.6814449.3%71 W · 73 L+12.7wins+0.09per pick40cpaid+17.1%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x32cc…68b3backed Pelicans54c235$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126.91,08450%542 W · 542 L+2.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd809…6542backed Pelicans54c235$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126.971654.1%387 W · 329 L+21.1wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+2.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2302…d6d2backed Pelicans54c235$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126.91,28650.8%653 W · 633 L+11.2wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8098…5646backed Pelicans54c235$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126.941753.2%222 W · 195 L+8.4wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+2.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfb51…082dbacked Pelicans54c235$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126.958953.7%316 W · 273 L+15.8wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+2.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xade2…8757backed Pelicans54c235$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126.919254.7%105 W · 87 L+10.4wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+8.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x24bb…3e49backed Timberwolves42c221$93 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$127.9280440.3%324 W · 480 L+27.4wins+0.03per pick37cpaid-0.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3a72…0a38backed Pelicans25c213$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.4616640.4%67 W · 99 L+8.7wins+0.05per pick35cpaid+13.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x91e0…26a0backed Pelicans25c213$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.4645544.8%204 W · 251 L+21.8wins+0.05per pick40cpaid+8.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x2aef…f8dfbacked Timberwolves50c200$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1006637.9%25 W · 41 L-1.3wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-8.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x0979…fc8abacked Pelicans11c200$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$223619.4%7 W · 29 L+2.8wins+0.08per pick12cpaid-4.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x5cdf…8666backed Pelicans26c186$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.1213837.7%52 W · 86 L+5.6wins+0.04per pick34cpaid-3.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0c99…0c88backed Pelicans45c183.17$82 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$81.592,40043.6%1,046 W · 1,354 L-82.9wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-9.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xbde7…cf8abacked Pelicans21c175$37 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36.57326%19 W · 54 L+7.9wins+0.11per pick15cpaid+19.7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xf7f0…912cbacked Timberwolves56c165$92 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$73.125954.4%141 W · 118 L+34.1wins+0.13per pick41cpaid+68.6%equal weight63+0.12 edge/pick
0xc63b…6e4ebacked Timberwolves47c162$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$86.5831238.5%120 W · 192 L+15.3wins+0.05per pick34cpaid+5.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x27e9…f09ebacked Timberwolves50c159.97$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$79.727839.7%31 W · 47 L+2.6wins+0.03per pick36cpaid-0.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4488…579cbacked Timberwolves51c145.59$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.3477549.2%381 W · 394 L-2.4wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2d6a…8addbacked Pelicans47c140.5$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.041,39946.4%649 W · 750 L-13.5wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x84ad…bfb7backed Pelicans48c131.9$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63.8689850.9%457 W · 441 L+19.2wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+1.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbf4f…f538backed Timberwolves50c100$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.837339.7%29 W · 44 L+3.0wins+0.04per pick36cpaid+0.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xce5f…ab17backed Timberwolves50c100$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.8317748%85 W · 92 L+16.4wins+0.09per pick39cpaid+18.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x0fde…0258backed Pelicans46c94.91$44 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43.6649247.2%232 W · 260 L+1.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdd80…5ef4backed Pelicans54c90.04$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.6211653.4%62 W · 54 L+4.0wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xaa93…0bc7backed Timberwolves61c90$55 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35.123047.4%109 W · 121 L+19.2wins+0.08per pick39cpaid+19.7%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x37c1…8de1backed Pelicans43c89.84$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.6327138.7%105 W · 166 L+0.6wins0.00per pick39cpaid+4.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x12b4…a662backed Timberwolves58c87.6$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.5659255.4%328 W · 264 L+23.0wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+4.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe4ad…795cbacked Timberwolves59c82.66$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33.8952461.6%323 W · 201 L-0.3wins0.00per pick62cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x983c…dd56backed Timberwolves60c81.33$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32.5311551.3%59 W · 56 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x10cf…1cfbbacked Pelicans54c80.56$44 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43.523549.4%116 W · 119 L-4.1wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-1.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8ba3…9a44backed Pelicans14c80$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.22020%4 W · 16 L+1.9wins+0.10per pick10cpaid+43.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xc291…5d74backed Pelicans51c78$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.781,63341.2%672 W · 961 L+26.3wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe1cc…28a0backed Timberwolves75c65.92$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.6829665.5%194 W · 102 L+9.8wins+0.03per pick62cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2aae…16e6backed Pelicans55c60.15$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.0812458.9%73 W · 51 L+10.3wins+0.08per pick51cpaid+18.5%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xc582…853cbacked Pelicans20c60$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$121816.7%3 W · 15 L+1.5wins+0.08per pick8cpaid+124.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xa07d…a037backed Pelicans47c58.53$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.481,28323.4%300 W · 983 L-178.2wins-0.14per pick37cpaid-40.2%equal weight35-0.14 edge/pick
0xd226…38b4backed Timberwolves53c54.42$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.5839448.7%192 W · 202 L-1.0wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x06e7…3acabacked Pelicans54c54.02$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.1757051.9%296 W · 274 L+4.7wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x93ac…2761backed Timberwolves58c52.19$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.9252861.9%327 W · 201 L+32.3wins+0.06per pick56cpaid+10.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x441d…544dbacked Pelicans25c49.5$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.5811639.7%46 W · 70 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-4.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Timberwolves54c48.62$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22.371,75848.7%856 W · 902 L+28.3wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5f22…0fb4backed Pelicans54c45.02$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.3137853.4%202 W · 176 L+13.2wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+5.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x2528…b77dbacked Pelicans51c43.75$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.241,04851.7%542 W · 506 L+7.7wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+0.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc978…706bbacked Pelicans54c42.56$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.9831953%169 W · 150 L+11.5wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+8.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x05d3…c06abacked Timberwolves53c42.36$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20.011,57353.4%840 W · 733 L-12.8wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x33eb…b07ebacked Timberwolves75c39.4$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9.857763.6%49 W · 28 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick62cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0045…9007backed Pelicans50c38.8$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.410040%40 W · 60 L-7.9wins-0.08per pick48cpaid-17.1%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x8f47…6397backed Timberwolves79c37.99$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8.137248.6%35 W · 37 L-3.4wins-0.05per pick53cpaid-11%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xfb71…b5a0backed Pelicans40c36.15$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.461338.5%5 W · 8 L+0.7wins+0.05per pick33cpaid+43.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xff6e…21cdbacked Timberwolves78c33.13$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7.413754.1%20 W · 17 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb682…2d79backed Timberwolves53c31.54$17 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.826157.4%35 W · 26 L+1.9wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3169…6dccbacked Timberwolves49c30$15 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15.36663.6%42 W · 24 L+8.8wins+0.13per pick50cpaid+26.9%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x6d49…e00abacked Timberwolves54c28$15 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12.881,53242.5%651 W · 881 L-17.3wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-12.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 15 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.