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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: 3DMAX vs Astralis (BO3) - PGL Cluj-Napoca Group Stage

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Astralisof 3DMAX, Astralis
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$192,760
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$216,258

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $192,760 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 257 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xcd87…ac38backed 3DMAX18c12,737$2,260 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,26010047%47 W · 53 L+5.0wins+0.05per pick42cpaid-5.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7dcc…96d2backed 3DMAX0c10,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10425%1 W · 3 L+0.5wins+0.13per pick12cpaid-34.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbd09…a188backed 3DMAX44c10,000$4,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,399.9719645.4%89 W · 107 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-11.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7645…3117backed 3DMAX43c9,239$4,005 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,005.2671645.9%329 W · 387 L-3.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb328…4df1backed 3DMAX43c8,180$3,499 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,499.22755.6%15 W · 12 L+2.8wins+0.10per pick45cpaid+17.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xec0e…672cbacked 3DMAX24c7,782$1,901 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,900.947738.4%183 W · 294 L-26.7wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-31.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x0dcf…c556backed 3DMAX45c7,000$3,143 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,143.3823839.9%95 W · 143 L-11.0wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-13.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x44c5…8d45backed Astralis56c6,991$3,940 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,050.919455.2%107 W · 87 L+8.9wins+0.05per pick51cpaid+5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x7298…fe8dbacked 3DMAX43c6,651$2,860 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,859.9820539.5%81 W · 124 L+3.6wins+0.02per pick38cpaid-0.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe2a6…9837backed Astralis56c5,794$3,245 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,549.364643.5%20 W · 26 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick45cpaid+21.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2765…7ee4backed Astralis76c5,687$4,330 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,356.9464552.9%341 W · 304 L+27.2wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+9.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xda9b…b2a9backed Astralis57c5,528$3,152 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,376.622171.4%15 W · 6 L+3.7wins+0.17per pick54cpaid+29.6%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x081e…f76ebacked Astralis56c5,500$3,080 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,420.0881751.7%422 W · 395 L-6.0wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe4da…1772backed Astralis56c4,978$2,802 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,176.4953746.2%248 W · 289 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe283…7190backed Astralis56c4,643$2,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,042.8696545.7%441 W · 524 L+10.9wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Astralis71c4,291$3,054 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,236.291,61145.4%731 W · 880 L+30.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-14.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb555…0c4bbacked Astralis69c4,000$2,757 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,242.689038.9%35 W · 55 L-4.3wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-32.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Astralis69c3,826$2,655 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,1711,05449%516 W · 538 L+38.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-10.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked 3DMAX13c3,685$485 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$485.081,04044%458 W · 582 L-22.2wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-22.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xef26…05babacked 3DMAX42c3,204$1,346 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,345.759839.6%237 W · 361 L-15.9wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-9.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Astralis76c2,883$2,195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$688.593,09648.5%1,501 W · 1,595 L+135.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x1b07…4409backed Astralis57c2,796$1,587 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,208.971464.3%9 W · 5 L+1.3wins+0.09per pick55cpaid+11.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x52ec…a6f3backed Astralis56c2,669$1,495 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,174.4346949.7%233 W · 236 L-14.1wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-8.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0659…d74dbacked Astralis78c2,582$2,008 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$573.7198052.4%514 W · 466 L+26.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb9b4…75a0backed Astralis56c2,568$1,439 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,129.2711046.4%51 W · 59 L-2.6wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb9ab…f282backed 3DMAX44c2,500$1,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,1001,08150.9%550 W · 531 L+37.9wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+5.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0f8e…3082backed 3DMAX30c2,437$727 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$727.4530335.6%108 W · 195 L-13.3wins-0.04per pick40cpaid-28.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x563b…774bbacked Astralis57c2,273$1,296 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$977.54959.2%29 W · 20 L-2.0wins-0.04per pick63cpaid-6.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0d91…df18backed Astralis57c2,043$1,164 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$878.329565.3%62 W · 33 L+11.2wins+0.12per pick53cpaid+22.1%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x12c0…692bbacked 3DMAX43c2,000$860 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$859.976048.3%29 W · 31 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked 3DMAX31c1,893$584 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$584.142,77637.4%1,038 W · 1,738 L-140.2wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-20.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x85ee…c483backed Astralis55c1,747$961 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$786.397100%7 W · 0 L+2.5wins+0.35per pick65cpaid+55.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x77a3…0e3fbacked Astralis58c1,724$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$724.1426045%117 W · 143 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2560…0b02backed Astralis57c1,706$979 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$727.1822448.7%109 W · 115 L-3.5wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-9.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xfbc3…eab0backed 3DMAX45c1,660$747 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$746.99633.3%2 W · 4 L-1.3wins-0.22per pick56cpaid-46.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6519…ab2bbacked 3DMAX16c1,622$256 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$256.46425%1 W · 3 L-0.2wins-0.06per pick31cpaid-60.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc59f…f5f8backed Astralis57c1,570$896 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$674.451872.2%13 W · 5 L+2.0wins+0.11per pick61cpaid+16.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x21ec…5348backed Astralis56c1,569$878 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$690.9372453.7%389 W · 335 L+11.9wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x13fa…3facbacked 3DMAX43c1,500$645 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64523932.2%77 W · 162 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick32cpaid-2.1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x29b5…cc6cbacked 3DMAX44c1,500$667 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$666.55,05055.1%2,781 W · 2,269 L+117.2wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe42b…7ea9backed 3DMAX43c1,500$645 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64550833.5%170 W · 338 L+14.2wins+0.03per pick31cpaid+2.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbc70…7f2abacked 3DMAX44c1,350$594 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$593.993432.4%11 W · 23 L-4.1wins-0.12per pick45cpaid-37.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xdbb9…ed8dbacked 3DMAX43c1,305$565 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$564.988944.9%40 W · 49 L-4.7wins-0.05per pick50cpaid+29.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x8056…b64dbacked Astralis56c1,296$726 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$570.221,62344.9%728 W · 895 L+4.4wins0.00per pick45cpaid-5.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8541…a367backed 3DMAX28c1,230$342 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$341.8928344.2%125 W · 158 L+17.1wins+0.06per pick38cpaid+14.7%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x8a92…6941backed 3DMAX43c1,200$516 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$515.9911547%54 W · 61 L+9.9wins+0.09per pick38cpaid+15.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x2698…0958backed 3DMAX44c1,195$526 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$525.766553.8%35 W · 30 L+4.2wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+14.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked 3DMAX33c1,143$375 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$374.943,25750.3%1,638 W · 1,619 L+98.0wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-6.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd589…27c2backed 3DMAX44c1,137$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$500.258751.7%45 W · 42 L+3.8wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+9.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x6d7e…eb46backed Astralis57c1,056$602 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$454.082100%2 W · 0 L+0.8wins+0.38per pick63cpaid+61.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6e3e…e3ebbacked Astralis79c1,000$790 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21010163.4%64 W · 37 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick64cpaid-2.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5bd3…394cbacked Astralis55c909.09$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$409.099349.5%46 W · 47 L+1.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6bdd…1b11backed Astralis56c892$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$392.4822045.5%100 W · 120 L+4.7wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-0.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x56a8…3639backed Astralis57c876.99$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$377.112263.6%14 W · 8 L+2.3wins+0.10per pick53cpaid+21.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xf6f9…bff5backed Astralis57c873.51$499 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$374.926046.9%122 W · 138 L+4.0wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-12%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed 3DMAX25c867.28$220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$219.586,48042.9%2,782 W · 3,698 L-79.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2687…1363backed Astralis74c836.72$619 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$217.5538868.3%265 W · 123 L+25.7wins+0.07per pick62cpaid+3.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xd92d…e560backed Astralis58c802.51$462 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$340.1358651%299 W · 287 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd6a8…58fdbacked 3DMAX27c785.74$209 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$208.7824939.8%99 W · 150 L+5.6wins+0.02per pick37cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5674…8b14backed Astralis56c714.29$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$314.2936742.8%157 W · 210 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2ecb…7645backed 3DMAX27c626.84$170 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$170.51,54733.9%524 W · 1,023 L-73.4wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-33.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Astralis57c624.19$358 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$266.262,06641.5%858 W · 1,208 L-49.5wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-16.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4969…6d77backed 3DMAX33c623.37$208 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$208.0122734.4%78 W · 149 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick34cpaid-3%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Astralis71c616.27$435 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$181.224,03848.1%1,943 W · 2,095 L-23.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x53ab…65aabacked 3DMAX44c600$264 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2641,14449.4%565 W · 579 L+16.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+4.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x0a8c…f872backed Astralis60c590.75$354 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$236.317954.7%98 W · 81 L-3.1wins-0.02per pick56cpaid-5.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc99b…70bebacked 3DMAX35c566.88$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$200333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.7wins-0.22per pick55cpaid-51.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x12ff…0852backed 3DMAX40c559.72$226 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$226.2420445.6%93 W · 111 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x1f3f…5878backed Astralis56c540$302 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$237.612426.6%33 W · 91 L-10.9wins-0.09per pick35cpaid-24.9%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x389b…8d69backed Astralis57c526.32$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$226.322339.1%9 W · 14 L-1.5wins-0.07per pick46cpaid-31.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xcb9b…6df8backed Astralis57c500$285 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21555845.7%255 W · 303 L-11.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x133b…20a3backed Astralis79c500$395 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$105580%4 W · 1 L+1.0wins+0.21per pick59cpaid+23.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xb963…3fa0backed Astralis56c477.53$267 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$210.2450043%215 W · 285 L-10.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-4.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1f4f…46c2backed Astralis67c463.03$310 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$152.9639851.3%204 W · 194 L-2.3wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-4.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe922…39b3backed Astralis57c438$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$188.3460248.7%293 W · 309 L+0.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6dc0…699abacked 3DMAX10c434.46$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41.791,18122.5%266 W · 915 L+3.6wins0.00per pick22cpaid-15%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed 3DMAX29c408.92$119 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$118.5261837.9%234 W · 384 L-22.5wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-25.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed 3DMAX44c400$176 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1765,83037.8%2,203 W · 3,627 L+79.0wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf860…9228backed 3DMAX43c400$172 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1721833.3%6 W · 12 L-0.6wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-12.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7da6…4ff3backed 3DMAX44c399.98$176 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$175.9910053%53 W · 47 L+5.0wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1d3d…189dbacked Astralis62c398.7$247 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.88150.6%41 W · 40 L-2.5wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xa50b…74b2backed Astralis78c384.62$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$84.623545.7%16 W · 19 L-3.6wins-0.10per pick56cpaid-33.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x99fe…b61cbacked 3DMAX45c379.99$171 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17148242.1%203 W · 279 L-13.5wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-5.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8feb…b36abacked 3DMAX23c365$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$83.9510%0 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.23per pick23cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc869…8a6ebacked Astralis55c364.56$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$164.567061.4%43 W · 27 L+1.5wins+0.02per pick59cpaid+0.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x69db…283abacked Astralis55c363.64$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$163.6418336.6%67 W · 116 L-4.4wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-13.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6179…6f80backed Astralis55c363.64$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$163.6450340.2%202 W · 301 L+5.4wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3045…8f78backed Astralis56c357.14$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$157.1452456.3%295 W · 229 L-12.6wins-0.02per pick59cpaid-4.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x606d…1aafbacked Astralis57c350.88$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$150.8813065.4%85 W · 45 L+2.5wins+0.02per pick63cpaid+0.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x444e…1a78backed Astralis56c350$196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1544042.5%17 W · 23 L-3.4wins-0.09per pick51cpaid-25.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x94a1…2075backed 3DMAX46c349.99$161 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16145244.5%201 W · 251 L-0.2wins0.00per pick45cpaid+1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed 3DMAX26c330.08$87 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$86.514,22849.2%2,080 W · 2,148 L+59.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x1b44…d8debacked 3DMAX34c320.95$109 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$108.9516146%74 W · 87 L+2.6wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-13.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x1487…d443backed 3DMAX36c320$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$116.26944.9%31 W · 38 L-1.6wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-12.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf898…e720backed Astralis61c305.93$187 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$119.391,37845.2%623 W · 755 L+17.9wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-7.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3b1f…6500backed 3DMAX34c300$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.529647.6%141 W · 155 L-13.7wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-19.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x0a7c…8964backed Astralis61c300$182 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$118.261154.7%334 W · 277 L+11.1wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x22ae…af00backed Astralis55c299.99$165 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$134.9926451.5%136 W · 128 L-0.1wins0.00per pick52cpaid-5.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x476d…2fb4backed 3DMAX24c280$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.1560%3 W · 2 L+0.8wins+0.17per pick43cpaid+11.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2a67…ef6bbacked Astralis56c279.56$157 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$123.012277.3%17 W · 5 L+4.7wins+0.21per pick56cpaid+37.5%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.