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Lol · resolved market

LoL: Cloud9 vs Sentinels - Game 1 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Sentinelsof Cloud9, Sentinels
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$176,120
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$210,510

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $176,120 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 210 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x8c0b…7aa5backed Sentinels74c46,535$34,564 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,970.871,63040.1%654 W · 976 L+48.3wins+0.03per pick37cpaid-1.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf070…ac55backed Sentinels31c17,531$5,350 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,181.4153750.5%271 W · 266 L+14.6wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+4.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x17f1…af18backed Cloud92c11,110$256 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$255.533775.6%21 W · 356 L+4.0wins+0.01per pick5cpaid-0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfc92…2e78backed Cloud970c9,030$6,324 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,324.0711060.9%67 W · 43 L+8.0wins+0.07per pick54cpaid+20.5%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xad72…4f5ebacked Cloud974c8,050$5,977 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,976.6875942%319 W · 440 L+5.2wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-7.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x664a…fc5fbacked Cloud944c7,685$3,352 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,351.5485742.7%366 W · 491 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-23.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7b75…3fd1backed Sentinels40c5,388$2,139 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,248.9894134.5%325 W · 616 L+33.6wins+0.04per pick31cpaid-1.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xadd4…15c2backed Sentinels22c5,382$1,189 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,192.0926443.6%115 W · 149 L+11.9wins+0.05per pick39cpaid+14.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x19b6…ad8ebacked Cloud962c4,959$3,087 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,086.5646637.6%175 W · 291 L-19.5wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-17.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7553…65cabacked Sentinels28c4,543$1,272 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,270.967250.9%342 W · 330 L+6.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed Cloud930c3,974$1,173 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,172.643,13133.8%1,058 W · 2,073 L-150.7wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-34.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x2aad…88d4backed Cloud974c3,963$2,941 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,940.628827.4%79 W · 209 L-30.6wins-0.11per pick38cpaid-33.3%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x823b…59e9backed Cloud973c3,731$2,734 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,733.6312450%62 W · 62 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-13.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3186…e9cabacked Sentinels42c3,464$1,466 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,998.251,53662.6%961 W · 575 L+157.8wins+0.10per pick52cpaid+8.1%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x03f4…7e44backed Cloud968c3,065$2,091 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,090.6196250.1%482 W · 480 L+1.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x04bd…39a0backed Sentinels42c3,007$1,275 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,732.031,22945.1%554 W · 675 L+48.5wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+5.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xcdfb…980cbacked Sentinels31c2,994$931 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,063.4319150.8%97 W · 94 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-7.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x124e…6802backed Cloud970c2,770$1,935 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,93516254.9%89 W · 73 L-9.6wins-0.06per pick61cpaid-16.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xb4e0…ffbebacked Cloud974c2,663$1,969 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,969.378767.8%59 W · 28 L+5.7wins+0.07per pick61cpaid+6.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xcf60…a6f5backed Sentinels51c2,591$1,312 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,278.7191854%496 W · 422 L-1.5wins0.00per pick54cpaid+1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4337…8882backed Cloud969c2,222$1,533 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,533.181,09834.8%382 W · 716 L-17.1wins-0.02per pick36cpaid-10.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd812…2558backed Sentinels25c1,906$477 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,429.521137%78 W · 133 L+2.3wins+0.01per pick36cpaid-1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked Cloud972c1,868$1,345 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,345.022,00458.2%1,166 W · 838 L+86.9wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+9.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed Sentinels15c1,814$268 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,546.211,46828.9%424 W · 1,044 L+23.5wins+0.02per pick27cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0fbc…62a3backed Cloud972c1,732$1,247 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,247.4363161.2%386 W · 245 L+10.4wins+0.02per pick60cpaid-1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb10b…0b04backed Sentinels29c1,553$450 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,102.8351044.1%225 W · 285 L+6.6wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-4.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5511…5734backed Sentinels27c1,516$408 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,107.8524029.2%70 W · 170 L-8.5wins-0.04per pick33cpaid-12%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x40cf…2748backed Cloud971c1,479$1,045 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,045.3432160.7%195 W · 126 L+0.8wins0.00per pick60cpaid-3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8705…edbabacked Cloud971c1,474$1,046 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,046.4742941.5%178 W · 251 L-24.0wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-20%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xb877…4601backed Sentinels30c1,374$406 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$968.461,21839.9%486 W · 732 L-65.4wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-23.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xad5f…f595backed Sentinels56c1,359$757 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$601.432755.6%15 W · 12 L+1.0wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+19.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9179…2f34backed Cloud972c1,339$967 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$966.5737161.7%229 W · 142 L+2.9wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x092b…614ebacked Cloud937c1,193$446 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$445.515644.2%69 W · 87 L-3.6wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-3.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x14a0…22bbbacked Sentinels76c985.6$749 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$236.541,15568.1%786 W · 369 L+35.1wins+0.03per pick65cpaid+3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4912…b76fbacked Cloud970c962.42$674 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$673.6910831.5%34 W · 74 L-10.5wins-0.10per pick41cpaid-25.4%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed Sentinels20c947.91$190 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$757.882,36232%755 W · 1,607 L+42.0wins+0.02per pick30cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe9f8…6ef8backed Cloud92c941.2$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.829345.2%42 W · 51 L-4.9wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-15.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xfae6…ab69backed Cloud972c891.38$639 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$639.0954246.3%251 W · 291 L+7.6wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-4.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Cloud957c822.33$469 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$468.691,73144.2%765 W · 966 L-28.4wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-15.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed Cloud944c795.34$352 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$351.591,02539.6%406 W · 619 L-20.4wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-19.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa113…93f4backed Sentinels33c795$263 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$531.7411532.2%37 W · 78 L-3.3wins-0.03per pick35cpaid-12.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x82bf…de71backed Cloud952c758.73$395 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$394.5875342.5%320 W · 433 L-14.0wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-11.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x29e6…3365backed Cloud969c754.3$524 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$523.825368.4%173 W · 80 L+6.1wins+0.02per pick66cpaid+4.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb0f7…aebbbacked Cloud927c750.82$206 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$205.8225850.4%130 W · 128 L-2.6wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-5.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf5ea…d07fbacked Cloud958c740.37$429 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$429.4195951.3%492 W · 467 L+42.8wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+6.5%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x1b50…ea47backed Sentinels17c699.2$118 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$580.961,29426.6%344 W · 950 L+65.3wins+0.05per pick22cpaid+17.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x9adf…55e8backed Cloud970c696$487 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$487.242840.2%172 W · 256 L-32.1wins-0.07per pick48cpaid-19.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xa469…0782backed Cloud972c682.28$492 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$491.621,32253.2%703 W · 619 L+36.2wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xad8f…6b52backed Sentinels34c678.57$230 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$448.6314336.4%52 W · 91 L-6.0wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-18.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xafd4…7e61backed Sentinels15c629.87$95 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$534.511,20054.1%649 W · 551 L+28.9wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xff5e…9c6ebacked Cloud92c611.78$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.2410422.1%23 W · 81 L-14.2wins-0.14per pick36cpaid-37.9%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0xf201…527ebacked Cloud956c576.42$322 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$321.641,29545.1%584 W · 711 L+49.7wins+0.04per pick41cpaid-10.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe015…6ffdbacked Sentinels22c572.14$124 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$447.9196048.8%468 W · 492 L+13.1wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8e3f…6941backed Sentinels31c561.75$174 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$388.0739447.2%186 W · 208 L+5.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x86b1…c094backed Sentinels32c551.07$176 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$375.41,05628.5%301 W · 755 L+21.3wins+0.02per pick26cpaid-1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2aa5…ff32backed Cloud969c535.62$369 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$369.071,22549.6%607 W · 618 L+15.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8ced…0feebacked Cloud972c524.08$377 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$376.5376955%423 W · 346 L-13.9wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2fbc…f944backed Cloud971c519.86$369 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$369.146263.9%295 W · 167 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick63cpaid-2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3072…4ca9backed Cloud978c495.63$386 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$385.8613647.1%64 W · 72 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-10.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0362…2af9backed Sentinels29c493.18$145 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$348.255750.4%281 W · 276 L+0.3wins0.00per pick50cpaid+2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x949e…20afbacked Cloud939c479.99$188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$188.4937633.5%126 W · 250 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick34cpaid-0.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6277…5a3fbacked Cloud933c478.33$158 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$157.6990537.5%339 W · 566 L-18.8wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-7.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfd96…e623backed Cloud971c461.72$328 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$327.8239851.8%206 W · 192 L+0.3wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1fef…8c79backed Sentinels75c461.48$348 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$113.3326246.9%123 W · 139 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x13c7…11d9backed Sentinels25c390.79$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$293.0971249.2%350 W · 362 L+14.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x33e9…895dbacked Cloud960c390$234 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2342060%12 W · 8 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick59cpaid+3.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3f97…4059backed Sentinels29c380.05$110 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$269.841,15649.1%568 W · 588 L-17.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid+0.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xc397…bb3bbacked Sentinels28c369.07$104 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$265.441,66359.5%990 W · 673 L+98.5wins+0.06per pick54cpaid+10.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x7115…2b2fbacked Sentinels36c368.23$131 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$237.023542.9%15 W · 20 L-0.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-5.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xb7ab…16d0backed Cloud93c350.68$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.761,17066.2%774 W · 396 L+69.6wins+0.06per pick60cpaid+5.8%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x0535…75ccbacked Cloud966c344.88$227 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$227.121,00949.2%496 W · 513 L+30.0wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+10.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x49a6…a658backed Cloud976c336.16$257 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$256.8650051.6%258 W · 242 L-14.3wins-0.03per pick54cpaid+1.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Cloud969c328.15$228 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$227.782,82541.4%1,169 W · 1,656 L-14.1wins0.00per pick42cpaid-4.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xbd14…76b4backed Sentinels30c315.95$94 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$222.4213933.8%47 W · 92 L-14.1wins-0.10per pick44cpaid-32.6%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x6c4e…6c11backed Cloud969c306.83$211 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$210.936749.9%183 W · 184 L+15.0wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+6.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2ecb…7645backed Sentinels29c287.76$82 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$205.751,72829.5%509 W · 1,219 L-123.2wins-0.07per pick37cpaid-39.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xe625…94c0backed Cloud934c285.33$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.5374344%327 W · 416 L+0.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5799…db25backed Cloud934c285.24$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.0241945.1%189 W · 230 L-1.4wins0.00per pick45cpaid-0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xccd3…be19backed Cloud970c280.57$196 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$196.41855.6%10 W · 8 L-0.8wins-0.04per pick60cpaid-13.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6bc0…af1abacked Cloud970c272.16$190 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$190.457732.5%25 W · 52 L-5.2wins-0.07per pick39cpaid-18.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2d97…cab6backed Cloud972c268.34$193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$193.21825%2 W · 6 L-3.0wins-0.38per pick63cpaid-65.6%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xd6a8…58fdbacked Sentinels28c265.31$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$189.9822336.8%82 W · 141 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick36cpaid-12.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8e5e…0381backed Sentinels75c263.34$197 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.5248951.5%252 W · 237 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-3.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4e8d…febfbacked Cloud976c261.84$199 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$198.8826844%118 W · 150 L-37.1wins-0.14per pick58cpaid-26.2%equal weight36-0.13 edge/pick
0xe136…6d09backed Sentinels22c254.82$57 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$198.2419738.6%76 W · 121 L-3.9wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-3.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Sentinels39c252.83$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$153.9199338.6%383 W · 610 L-21.3wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-19.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe235…aba2backed Sentinels44c248.76$110 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$138.4557947.3%274 W · 305 L-14.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-8.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe8e1…49ddbacked Cloud974c226.14$167 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$166.9473237.7%276 W · 456 L-51.5wins-0.07per pick45cpaid-35.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x6e59…beeebacked Cloud973c214.77$157 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$156.785160.8%31 W · 20 L+3.1wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+12.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9cd2…34e9backed Cloud938c209.99$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$79.877545%349 W · 426 L+7.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1365…c82abacked Cloud974c208.36$154 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$154.0298956.8%562 W · 427 L+24.7wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7e34…63f7backed Cloud973c205.21$151 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$150.7834960.2%210 W · 139 L+1.1wins0.00per pick60cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb953…5393backed Sentinels48c202.01$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$105.1357151.5%294 W · 277 L+14.8wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+2.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x3865…fcbebacked Sentinels39c200.21$77 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$123.138850.8%197 W · 191 L+2.6wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2d7a…87c7backed Cloud971c196.46$139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$138.5112763%80 W · 47 L+8.3wins+0.07per pick56cpaid+8.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xb29a…bbdebacked Cloud968c195.78$133 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$133.134647.8%22 W · 24 L+0.8wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-7.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xce78…86fabacked Sentinels32c185$60 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1257136.6%26 W · 45 L-2.0wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-17.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1173…1d74backed Sentinels30c181.8$55 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$126.933040.3%133 W · 197 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-7.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3e6d…2671backed Sentinels28c180.46$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$129.611,57648.4%763 W · 813 L+17.4wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-7.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3322…7dc2backed Cloud967c177.8$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119.9514246.5%66 W · 76 L+3.8wins+0.03per pick44cpaid-4.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 7 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.