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NHL · resolved market

Maple Leafs vs. Predators

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Predatorsof Maple Leafs, Predators
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NHLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$748,828
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$816,183

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $748,828 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 304 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NHL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NHL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x7435…a620backed Predators51c296,793$151,354 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$145,438.541376.9%10 W · 3 L+3.1wins+0.24per pick53cpaid+47.9%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Maple Leafs49c223,834$109,679 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$109,678.7338748.3%187 W · 200 L+1.6wins0.00per pick48cpaid-6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd6b4…a278backed Maple Leafs51c208,250$106,208 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$106,207.510349.5%51 W · 52 L-2.8wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-6.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x16b2…a881backed Predators49c164,151$80,691 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$83,459.9788151.2%451 W · 430 L+10.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1117…3532backed Maple Leafs50c35,000$17,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17,599.8956649.5%280 W · 286 L-7.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x869b…c625backed Predators49c18,512$9,071 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,441.124665.2%30 W · 16 L+4.7wins+0.10per pick55cpaid+21.1%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x11e2…26ccbacked Predators49c18,000$8,820 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,1801457.1%8 W · 6 L+0.9wins+0.07per pick51cpaid+17.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Maple Leafs50c15,000$7,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,50042552.2%222 W · 203 L+25.0wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xead0…f3babacked Predators49c10,012$4,895 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,117.432946.8%154 W · 175 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x68dd…f0b2backed Predators49c10,000$4,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,099.9825449.2%125 W · 129 L+2.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0a77…9d74backed Maple Leafs49c9,048$4,433 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,433.452050%260 W · 260 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9f13…e0fdbacked Predators49c8,673$4,250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,423.4647951.4%246 W · 233 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-2.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Predators49c8,500$4,165 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,3351,44149.2%709 W · 732 L+6.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2586…c893backed Predators48c8,326$3,987 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,338.9383652.8%441 W · 395 L+28.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x42b5…b5b6backed Predators49c7,320$3,565 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,754.921,37749.1%676 W · 701 L+39.2wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Maple Leafs18c6,555$1,175 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,175.3689547%421 W · 474 L-18.0wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x17e0…80aebacked Predators69c6,085$4,179 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,905.2532744%144 W · 183 L+3.1wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-11.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7298…fe8dbacked Maple Leafs50c6,000$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,00033243.7%145 W · 187 L-16.1wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-9.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x371a…34b0backed Maple Leafs1c5,777$58 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$57.777450.7%5 W · 740 L-13.2wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-94.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Maple Leafs50c5,245$2,625 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,625.11,94849.4%962 W · 986 L+24.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3a7a…15a4backed Predators50c5,000$2,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,50023047.4%109 W · 121 L-7.5wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-7.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb875…68a8backed Predators50c4,736$2,368 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,36824654.5%134 W · 112 L+9.2wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+9.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1d3a…7b63backed Maple Leafs51c4,000$2,040 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,04086649.9%432 W · 434 L+1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Predators55c3,901$2,129 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,772.1338738%147 W · 240 L-13.9wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-28.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Predators48c3,777$1,813 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,963.9875251.7%389 W · 363 L-2.1wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xed61…9aa3backed Predators55c3,369$1,837 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,531.858467.5%394 W · 190 L+93.1wins+0.16per pick52cpaid+32.9%equal weight67+0.15 edge/pick
0x8753…85adbacked Predators51c3,266$1,666 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,600.3461959.1%366 W · 253 L+17.9wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1d7a…b22fbacked Maple Leafs50c3,000$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50016843.5%73 W · 95 L-14.3wins-0.09per pick52cpaid-16.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x9397…ceb4backed Maple Leafs50c3,000$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,5002352.2%12 W · 11 L+0.8wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+13.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe948…ff23backed Predators51c2,941$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,441.1829651.7%153 W · 143 L+3.4wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Maple Leafs50c2,614$1,307 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,30779350.1%397 W · 396 L-11.5wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-3.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x1624…bf63backed Maple Leafs42c2,578$1,078 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,078.1639344.8%176 W · 217 L+23.3wins+0.06per pick39cpaid+1.8%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x9731…9b35backed Predators49c2,549$1,249 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,30093953.6%503 W · 436 L+29.6wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7fd4…8f7abacked Predators49c2,531$1,240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,290.674100%4 W · 0 L+2.1wins+0.52per pick48cpaid+108.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x5bc4…f44fbacked Maple Leafs50c2,430$1,219 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,218.668449.9%341 W · 343 L-3.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa49b…4c40backed Predators51c2,200$1,122 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,07826344.5%117 W · 146 L+0.7wins0.00per pick44cpaid-9.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6239…c24fbacked Maple Leafs51c2,141$1,092 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,092.1669550.1%348 W · 347 L-4.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Predators49c2,044$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,044.061,67954.4%914 W · 765 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xca3f…8078backed Maple Leafs51c1,981$1,010 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,010.1162249.4%307 W · 315 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-0.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb2e2…4e99backed Maple Leafs51c1,961$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0009846.9%46 W · 52 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Predators50c1,775$888 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$887.51,43450.8%728 W · 706 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5487…a014backed Predators49c1,770$867 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$902.784953.8%457 W · 392 L+20.9wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x0e11…2c11backed Maple Leafs52c1,753$911 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$911.38450%2 W · 2 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-4.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5c57…5b16backed Maple Leafs51c1,500$758 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$757.51,47548.3%712 W · 763 L+2.7wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x42c1…e644backed Maple Leafs67c1,463$973 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$973.121154.5%6 W · 5 L+0.6wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+10.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfa25…05e8backed Maple Leafs51c1,363$695 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$695.132850%14 W · 14 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd04d…d0e5backed Maple Leafs50c1,363$684 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$683.9797651.6%504 W · 472 L-3.9wins0.00per pick52cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8717…49a8backed Predators51c1,345$686 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$659.0630152.5%158 W · 143 L+17.8wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+12.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xd6f4…0566backed Predators53c1,168$613 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$554.7195049.1%466 W · 484 L+12.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdbb9…ed8dbacked Maple Leafs51c1,166$595 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$594.661,23053.7%661 W · 569 L-9.1wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x33d2…952ebacked Maple Leafs75c1,164$873 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$872.9825%2 W · 6 L-1.7wins-0.22per pick47cpaid-35.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7bd8…aeabbacked Predators49c1,020$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$520.3226955.8%150 W · 119 L+7.0wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+6.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x84f6…2e01backed Maple Leafs51c1,016$514 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5148645.3%39 W · 47 L-4.0wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-9.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x977a…f2cabacked Maple Leafs1c1,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101,1632.3%27 W · 1,136 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick3cpaid-87.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6a89…2f26backed Predators50c1,000$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50070547.7%336 W · 369 L-26.9wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-7.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x17e5…f205backed Maple Leafs1c1,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102420.8%2 W · 240 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick2cpaid-17.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb973…ff16backed Maple Leafs51c1,000$510 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51010746.7%50 W · 57 L-5.9wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-10%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed Maple Leafs41c987.53$408 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$408.0543742.3%185 W · 252 L+11.1wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+0.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed Predators42c974.9$407 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$567.633,70450.5%1,871 W · 1,833 L+105.5wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x52b4…34a8backed Maple Leafs52c935.18$486 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$486.2922150.2%111 W · 110 L+8.4wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+11.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Predators58c901.07$524 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$376.641,35452.6%712 W · 642 L+46.2wins+0.03per pick49cpaid-8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xdf0d…e1a5backed Maple Leafs50c822$411 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41110%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xcfce…02acbacked Predators51c805.88$411 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$394.88250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3e04…564dbacked Maple Leafs51c784.8$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$400.251,89152.4%991 W · 900 L+36.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x89f3…dfffbacked Maple Leafs22c773.29$170 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$169.8629926.4%79 W · 220 L-20.5wins-0.07per pick33cpaid-35.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x2868…8e64backed Maple Leafs52c770.6$401 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$400.71666.7%4 W · 2 L+1.1wins+0.18per pick48cpaid+47.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2822…741dbacked Maple Leafs52c770$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$400.49254.3%50 W · 42 L+4.3wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+10.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x29c0…efaabacked Maple Leafs51c712$363 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$363.121,63650.4%825 W · 811 L-20.9wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9c4d…168cbacked Maple Leafs50c700$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3501,08745.1%490 W · 597 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xee7e…61bbbacked Maple Leafs51c663.98$340 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34041248.3%199 W · 213 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-2.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6036…d2ccbacked Maple Leafs49c613$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$300.3747051.5%242 W · 228 L+12.7wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+6.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x69d9…9881backed Maple Leafs50c600$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30030657.8%177 W · 129 L+0.5wins0.00per pick58cpaid+0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2128…4c6dbacked Maple Leafs51c588.24$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3007035.7%25 W · 45 L-9.6wins-0.14per pick49cpaid-30.1%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x3613…79e1backed Predators50c578$289 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28970249%344 W · 358 L+14.2wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf699…07e1backed Predators57c515$293 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$222.2585464.2%548 W · 306 L+64.5wins+0.08per pick57cpaid+18.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xf819…d410backed Predators51c509.8$260 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$249.820951.7%108 W · 101 L+7.6wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+7.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9e7a…1eecbacked Maple Leafs51c490.2$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2503250%16 W · 16 L-1.2wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xec14…7fafbacked Maple Leafs26c473.86$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12539343%169 W · 224 L+12.7wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+11.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x66c9…2e68backed Maple Leafs53c471.7$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2504778.7%37 W · 10 L+3.7wins+0.08per pick71cpaid+10.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x6c8d…673abacked Predators50c425.86$211 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$214.934944.9%22 W · 27 L-3.1wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-14.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x7d5c…0182backed Maple Leafs51c423.25$216 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$215.8628353%150 W · 133 L+16.6wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+14.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x9dd9…b1b1backed Predators50c412.71$207 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$205.6226848.5%130 W · 138 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xba26…23c9backed Predators49c398.45$195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$203.211,14350.8%581 W · 562 L+11.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6c01…428ebacked Maple Leafs51c392.75$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$200650%3 W · 3 L-0.6wins-0.11per pick61cpaid-18.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1733…1e15backed Maple Leafs51c392.16$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20053050.6%268 W · 262 L0.0wins0.00per pick51cpaid+1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Predators49c383.88$188 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$196.172,11242.9%907 W · 1,205 L-10.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid-9.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x0ff3…8438backed Maple Leafs19c379.78$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70.831827.8%5 W · 13 L-2.9wins-0.16per pick44cpaid-43.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x49e2…018dbacked Predators50c357.55$177 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$180.2913448.5%65 W · 69 L-4.3wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-3.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8757…872dbacked Maple Leafs30c341.5$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.83475%3 W · 1 L+1.9wins+0.46per pick29cpaid+233.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x78fa…d5c3backed Maple Leafs49c324$159 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$158.76922.2%2 W · 7 L-2.6wins-0.29per pick51cpaid-55.8%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xf5f2…0234backed Maple Leafs50c303$152 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$151.510554.3%57 W · 48 L+8.7wins+0.08per pick46cpaid+15.7%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x9a6e…35b4backed Predators50c301.97$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$152.3835245.2%159 W · 193 L-19.2wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-9.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x6d01…0ab1backed Predators50c300$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15075946.6%354 W · 405 L-3.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1f85…a51bbacked Predators51c300$153 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1476048.3%29 W · 31 L-3.3wins-0.05per pick54cpaid-7.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xaddb…51adbacked Predators51c294.12$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$144.122236.4%8 W · 14 L-3.7wins-0.17per pick53cpaid-29.3%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x4c9b…e74abacked Predators51c294.12$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$144.1278443.8%343 W · 441 L+8.1wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Maple Leafs52c267.34$138 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$138.391,34554.8%737 W · 608 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xeea6…135fbacked Maple Leafs76c263.16$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20020150.2%101 W · 100 L+9.8wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+11.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x58c8…0300backed Maple Leafs34c253.92$86 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$86.1360141.9%252 W · 349 L-8.5wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-18.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xce6d…28b5backed Maple Leafs53c250$133 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$132.574951.8%388 W · 361 L+18.8wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NHL and say nothing about this market.

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Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.