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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: Aurora vs South America Rejects - Game 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
South America Rejectsof Aurora, South America Rejects
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$345,780
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$379,097

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $345,780 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 198 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xa5ea…d96abacked South America Rejects32c164,506$52,860 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$111,646.4828748.8%140 W · 147 L-4.9wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-5.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe16d…5e30backed Aurora66c119,873$79,387 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$79,386.961,21057.1%691 W · 519 L+44.5wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+4.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2a2c…9bc1backed Aurora67c20,839$13,962 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,962.035549.1%27 W · 28 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-9.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Aurora69c20,624$14,181 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14,180.872,01244.2%889 W · 1,123 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x913c…39b3backed South America Rejects63c18,608$11,785 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,822.9771454.5%389 W · 325 L+55.6wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+7.9%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x05a7…42e6backed Aurora71c16,190$11,489 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,489.141056.8%233 W · 177 L+5.2wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfa88…85a5backed Aurora71c7,962$5,614 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,613.7369644.5%310 W · 386 L-3.1wins0.00per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x559b…4959backed Aurora27c6,957$1,911 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,911.268143.2%35 W · 46 L-1.4wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdbb3…76a9backed Aurora63c5,489$3,444 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,443.7451751.3%265 W · 252 L+21.8wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+1.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9eca…5a59backed Aurora67c5,276$3,530 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,530.1840051.5%206 W · 194 L-6.9wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-4.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x18bb…e5cdbacked South America Rejects25c5,215$1,304 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,911.513020%26 W · 104 L-6.3wins-0.05per pick25cpaid-33.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2924…0f31backed South America Rejects55c4,990$2,757 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,232.5147046.6%219 W · 251 L+1.9wins0.00per pick46cpaid-12.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3a09…f9f7backed South America Rejects31c4,203$1,308 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,894.4456955.5%316 W · 253 L+22.1wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+6.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x0e1b…ecafbacked Aurora70c4,109$2,860 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,860.4496645.1%436 W · 530 L-7.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-13.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed South America Rejects24c4,000$980 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,019.9889440.3%360 W · 534 L+1.3wins0.00per pick40cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x70c1…dba0backed Aurora69c3,731$2,563 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,562.5322643.8%99 W · 127 L-6.3wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-10.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8e8c…65ddbacked South America Rejects31c3,687$1,158 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,529.2834544.3%153 W · 192 L-15.8wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-11.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x31a4…7afcbacked Aurora70c3,607$2,518 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,518.4795342.2%402 W · 551 L-20.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x182d…73e9backed South America Rejects34c3,041$1,032 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,008.4729348.5%142 W · 151 L-0.2wins0.00per pick49cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed Aurora74c2,701$1,991 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,990.5696557.4%554 W · 411 L+49.5wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+7.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xd055…28d0backed Aurora65c2,342$1,515 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,514.6326550.6%134 W · 131 L+12.0wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+6.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x13c7…11d9backed South America Rejects33c2,213$730 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,482.9933541.2%138 W · 197 L-5.9wins-0.02per pick43cpaid+0.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x974f…cd80backed South America Rejects33c2,133$698 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,434.5355147.5%262 W · 289 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+4.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Aurora30c2,122$628 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$628.021,52137.9%576 W · 945 L-57.8wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-26.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xe922…39b3backed South America Rejects34c1,764$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,164.2341351.8%214 W · 199 L+1.0wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb9ab…f282backed South America Rejects32c1,678$537 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,141.219742.1%83 W · 114 L-12.6wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-16%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xbc6f…f0f0backed Aurora37c1,552$577 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$577.397862.8%49 W · 29 L+1.8wins+0.02per pick61cpaid-3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked South America Rejects32c1,549$490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,059.5180256%449 W · 353 L+22.9wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xef62…cf76backed South America Rejects56c1,540$864 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$676.6843344.8%194 W · 239 L-2.6wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-14.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbca8…cf14backed South America Rejects33c1,513$499 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,013.7125248.8%123 W · 129 L-11.2wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-10.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf3ce…a57abacked South America Rejects35c1,450$507 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$942.331,20259.3%713 W · 489 L+64.6wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+10.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xab04…a00abacked South America Rejects34c1,382$470 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$912.1137945.9%174 W · 205 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2487…0ad0backed South America Rejects35c1,279$442 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$837.372429.2%7 W · 17 L-0.7wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-17.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked South America Rejects50c1,279$634 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$644.221,15547.8%552 W · 603 L+29.5wins+0.03per pick45cpaid-8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb635…bef0backed Aurora74c1,172$868 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$867.5930336.6%111 W · 192 L-18.4wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-20.7%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xb53a…e694backed Aurora34c1,118$385 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$385.127429.7%22 W · 52 L-7.9wins-0.11per pick40cpaid-29.3%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xe66e…946bbacked Aurora36c1,118$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$400.1321043.8%92 W · 118 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-6.6%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked South America Rejects43c1,017$441 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$576.4589749.6%445 W · 452 L+22.4wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed South America Rejects51c1,002$511 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$490.9868649.7%341 W · 345 L+9.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x69bf…0c5dbacked Aurora69c1,000$690 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$69036547.7%174 W · 191 L-1.0wins0.00per pick48cpaid-7.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7714…b814backed South America Rejects34c1,000$340 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66024153.1%128 W · 113 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-4.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7333…ca16backed Aurora1c1,000$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13244.2%1 W · 23 L+0.7wins+0.03per pick1cpaid+127%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x324c…93d9backed Aurora1c1,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101040%0 W · 104 L-1.7wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4f2d…318bbacked Aurora1c1,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10190%0 W · 19 L-0.5wins-0.03per pick3cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x16ce…eba1backed Aurora7c1,000$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$726132.1%13 W · 600 L-23.4wins-0.04per pick6cpaid-76.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8010…c05fbacked Aurora74c991.09$733 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$732.5116932.5%55 W · 114 L+7.8wins+0.05per pick28cpaid-34.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Aurora64c891.24$570 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$570.11,27245%572 W · 700 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-17.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xacf6…41fcbacked South America Rejects61c856.37$521 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$335.3660646.9%284 W · 322 L+10.5wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+4.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x37bd…2a26backed South America Rejects34c850$289 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5614365.1%28 W · 15 L+3.5wins+0.08per pick57cpaid+11.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Aurora55c843.67$468 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$467.651,82145%820 W · 1,001 L+33.5wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd752…7b4fbacked Aurora71c827.41$584 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$583.8135461.3%217 W · 137 L+0.6wins0.00per pick61cpaid-0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x03f4…7e44backed Aurora74c753.7$560 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$560.256852.5%298 W · 270 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb1cb…2345backed Aurora70c736.5$516 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$515.5525935.5%92 W · 167 L-13.7wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-15.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x4133…165bbacked South America Rejects33c734.55$245 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$489.811,27533.5%427 W · 848 L-15.6wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-18.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1709…c148backed Aurora69c727$505 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$504.8248352.4%253 W · 230 L-2.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid-5.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Aurora53c714.74$376 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$376.452,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x75bd…0288backed Aurora69c711.15$491 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$490.6913456%75 W · 59 L+8.0wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+8.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x7dfd…8d75backed South America Rejects34c700$238 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46224251.7%125 W · 117 L+21.0wins+0.09per pick43cpaid+15.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x8725…eb10backed South America Rejects26c690.58$179 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$511.5477941.1%320 W · 459 L-7.9wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xca1f…ed28backed South America Rejects61c689.74$421 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$268.4860552.6%318 W · 287 L+15.0wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-0.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x8e67…e2e6backed Aurora62c653.34$404 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$403.744351.2%22 W · 21 L-2.8wins-0.07per pick58cpaid-13.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf5ea…d07fbacked South America Rejects33c648.59$214 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$434.565749.1%28 W · 29 L+0.9wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-8.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1193…d9c4backed South America Rejects71c609.67$432 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$177.557859%46 W · 32 L+7.1wins+0.09per pick50cpaid+9.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x07fa…f5cdbacked South America Rejects34c600$204 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39646240.7%188 W · 274 L+15.4wins+0.03per pick37cpaid+9.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3f97…4059backed Aurora74c600$444 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4449153.8%49 W · 42 L+3.4wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+7.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe8e1…49ddbacked Aurora51c587.93$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$299.6267043.3%290 W · 380 L-6.8wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-14%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9031…554bbacked Aurora66c587.76$388 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$387.9210262.7%64 W · 38 L+3.0wins+0.03per pick60cpaid-0.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xbf29…da00backed South America Rejects33c581.29$192 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$389.4610751.4%55 W · 52 L-2.5wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-6.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2765…7ee4backed South America Rejects25c553.9$138 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$415.4255751.7%288 W · 269 L+16.7wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked Aurora40c539.06$216 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$215.631,06657%608 W · 458 L+52.7wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+1.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xe76d…5a75backed South America Rejects25c500$125 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3751,24844.4%554 W · 694 L+17.0wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x64ba…b7bfbacked Aurora72c500$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3602250%11 W · 11 L+0.5wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-10.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed South America Rejects24c500$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$38081029.4%238 W · 572 L-23.5wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-10.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x473f…9892backed Aurora67c447.75$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$299.9950053%265 W · 235 L+14.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x22d6…b7b5backed Aurora67c429.33$288 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$287.653342.4%14 W · 19 L-3.8wins-0.12per pick54cpaid-26.8%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x505f…645ebacked South America Rejects60c416.14$251 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$165.071,28045%576 W · 704 L-12.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-15%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa623…a4febacked Aurora70c408.51$286 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$285.9650749.7%252 W · 255 L+15.3wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-0.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd06c…cdafbacked South America Rejects25c384.49$95 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2891,18643.2%512 W · 674 L+42.2wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+1.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x80ba…2e78backed South America Rejects23c380$87 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$292.688539.7%351 W · 534 L+7.7wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdb05…ed70backed South America Rejects35c366.09$128 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$237.964856.3%27 W · 21 L+0.8wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x24bb…3e49backed Aurora4c364.44$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.1765337.2%243 W · 410 L-15.1wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-28.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0ee5…e798backed Aurora71c359.99$255 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$255.4772035.1%253 W · 467 L-24.8wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-19.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xc63b…6e4ebacked Aurora6c357.26$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21.2635032.3%113 W · 237 L-7.1wins-0.02per pick34cpaid-22%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Aurora58c345.62$202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201.971,90147.6%905 W · 996 L+4.6wins0.00per pick47cpaid-6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xce08…510bbacked South America Rejects29c342.38$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$243.0935951.3%184 W · 175 L-2.8wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x10d5…dc17backed South America Rejects75c335.28$253 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$82.677376.7%56 W · 17 L+6.8wins+0.09per pick67cpaid+8.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x8fb4…d080backed Aurora62c326.2$202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$202.3310152.5%53 W · 48 L-2.4wins-0.02per pick55cpaid-9.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4dde…cff5backed South America Rejects31c323.93$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$223.5233644%148 W · 188 L-4.7wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7032…0a8bbacked South America Rejects29c310.33$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$220.3355251.6%285 W · 267 L+10.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbf69…4fa2backed South America Rejects33c297.11$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$199.3553634%182 W · 354 L+11.4wins+0.02per pick32cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7511…582ebacked Aurora70c295.21$207 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$206.6526956.1%151 W · 118 L+8.3wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4281…a56fbacked Aurora66c293.88$194 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$193.96333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.8wins-0.25per pick59cpaid-38.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd402…bd09backed South America Rejects57c284.19$162 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$122.2742.9%3 W · 4 L+0.2wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+9.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf0f0…26edbacked South America Rejects79c268$213 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$54.9533867.8%229 W · 109 L+16.0wins+0.05per pick63cpaid+6.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x64a8…7bc3backed South America Rejects62c250$155 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9514661%89 W · 57 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick59cpaid-3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb8b8…61dcbacked Aurora75c250$188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$187.518065.6%118 W · 62 L+9.4wins+0.05per pick60cpaid+8.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xe232…6ceabacked Aurora20c250$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50405%2 W · 38 L-6.1wins-0.15per pick20cpaid-75.3%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x02a4…6854backed Aurora57c245.11$139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$139.471,79755.8%1,003 W · 794 L+37.5wins+0.02per pick54cpaid-1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdfa8…cae6backed South America Rejects35c219.66$77 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$142.7811154.1%60 W · 51 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x90f0…2923backed Aurora48c203.3$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.8611443.9%50 W · 64 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.