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NBA · resolved market

Wizards vs. Bulls

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Bullsof Wizards, Bulls
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,351,277
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,467,966

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,351,277 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 521 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x0140…9028backed Wizards16c55,338$8,609 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,608.94544.4%20 W · 25 L+2.6wins+0.06per pick39cpaid+12.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x057a…3bacbacked Wizards33c50,229$16,512 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16,511.5426038.1%99 W · 161 L-9.3wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-24%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x94d7…bef5backed Bulls51c46,941$24,128 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22,813.4825925.9%67 W · 192 L+6.5wins+0.03per pick23cpaid+8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x481b…74c1backed Bulls69c40,855$28,076 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,778.9148046%221 W · 259 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-9.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Wizards36c33,653$12,220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,219.744,87848%2,341 W · 2,537 L+61.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3450…6793backed Wizards42c30,900$12,999 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,999.117441.4%72 W · 102 L-4.2wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-5.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Wizards41c27,077$11,042 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,041.995,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8fb2…f3c2backed Bulls76c26,261$19,914 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,346.211100%1 W · 0 L+0.2wins+0.24per pick76cpaid+31.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5224…0de8backed Wizards45c25,000$11,250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,249.985658.9%33 W · 23 L+4.4wins+0.08per pick51cpaid+20.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xcf6c…7e66backed Wizards47c20,756$9,834 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,833.8159646.1%275 W · 321 L-16.2wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-10.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe734…8f6abacked Wizards15c20,000$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,999.9919150.8%97 W · 94 L+6.4wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+2.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Wizards41c18,009$7,345 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,345.331,04549%512 W · 533 L+21.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8b71…8044backed Wizards16c15,000$2,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,4008939.3%35 W · 54 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+2.6%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xe405…bf91backed Bulls75c15,000$11,250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,75048448.8%236 W · 248 L-5.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9f05…8937backed Wizards14c14,351$1,977 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,977.2147028.1%132 W · 338 L+27.2wins+0.06per pick22cpaid+13.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x7d5c…0182backed Wizards15c12,226$1,834 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,833.9347751.8%247 W · 230 L+1.6wins0.00per pick51cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfc25…1f7fbacked Wizards16c11,990$1,936 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,935.6996447.8%461 W · 503 L+35.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+17.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1cf5…6440backed Wizards13c11,672$1,487 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,486.9446928.4%133 W · 336 L+2.3wins0.00per pick28cpaid-4.5%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xdeaf…dbaabacked Bulls51c11,000$5,650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,349.9937930.6%116 W · 263 L+5.0wins+0.01per pick29cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8c0b…7aa5backed Wizards37c10,416$3,887 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,886.9848845.3%221 W · 267 L+18.9wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+1.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Wizards15c9,330$1,364 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,363.574,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Wizards33c9,217$2,996 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,996.121,00334.7%348 W · 655 L-44.7wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-35.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x1e3a…4033backed Wizards50c8,425$4,213 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,212.7134062.1%211 W · 129 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x01b4…372ebacked Wizards1c8,000$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8029810.4%31 W · 267 L+22.5wins+0.08per pick3cpaid+230.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xfa21…1438backed Wizards25c7,342$1,867 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,866.8816848.2%81 W · 87 L-4.5wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-11.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8ddb…420bbacked Bulls72c6,791$4,907 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,883.2729458.5%172 W · 122 L+6.0wins+0.02per pick56cpaid-0.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb7b3…9573backed Bulls77c6,382$4,935 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,447.4673649.9%367 W · 369 L-5.8wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd1ed…d7cbbacked Bulls58c6,264$3,620 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,644.441,22637.4%458 W · 768 L+7.6wins+0.01per pick37cpaid-21.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x84db…aeebbacked Wizards14c6,122$857 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$857.051,37450.1%689 W · 685 L+34.9wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+7.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe3d4…2bacbacked Bulls76c6,074$4,609 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,465.6347856.5%270 W · 208 L-8.9wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-2.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Bulls58c5,911$3,437 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,473.171,19032%381 W · 809 L-58.1wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-34.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x15f4…7e6bbacked Wizards35c5,841$2,016 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,015.751250%6 W · 6 L+0.9wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+8.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x97e1…017bbacked Bulls66c5,555$3,666 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,888.724554.7%134 W · 111 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+28.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x067f…e041backed Wizards10c5,277$528 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$527.691,26944.5%565 W · 704 L+32.4wins+0.03per pick42cpaid+4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x90ba…63f3backed Wizards15c5,100$786 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$785.51,78228%499 W · 1,283 L+11.5wins+0.01per pick27cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x462d…ce9bbacked Bulls68c5,022$3,431 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,591.157353.4%39 W · 34 L+2.6wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+6.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x74d3…0332backed Wizards15c5,000$750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$75034645.4%157 W · 189 L+8.3wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x447e…9710backed Wizards14c5,000$700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7005251.9%27 W · 25 L+1.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+20.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfefb…4b5dbacked Wizards45c4,482$2,026 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,025.9181529.4%240 W · 575 L-37.0wins-0.05per pick34cpaid-43%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Wizards14c4,436$641 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$640.699,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x881b…9893backed Bulls68c4,132$2,810 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,322.356747.8%32 W · 35 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-0.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5f4e…31cbbacked Bulls75c4,034$3,012 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,021.5916750.9%85 W · 82 L-6.4wins-0.04per pick55cpaid-16.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xd6f4…0566backed Bulls64c3,594$2,305 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,289.2285344%375 W · 478 L+1.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-15.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4a1e…86d3backed Wizards16c3,394$543 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$543.0227840.6%113 W · 165 L-22.5wins-0.08per pick49cpaid-17.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x781c…db68backed Bulls67c3,384$2,278 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,106.191,38439.4%545 W · 839 L+4.8wins0.00per pick39cpaid-21.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb1bc…bd81backed Bulls73c3,282$2,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$882.4313558.5%79 W · 56 L+5.1wins+0.04per pick55cpaid+4.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd9dd…b525backed Bulls63c3,000$1,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,10044337.9%168 W · 275 L-0.7wins0.00per pick38cpaid-9.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Bulls64c2,900$1,856 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,04476850.3%386 W · 382 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9cb9…32f2backed Bulls75c2,633$1,975 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$658.2738434.9%134 W · 250 L+7.0wins+0.02per pick33cpaid+12.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9ccb…0a10backed Bulls78c2,575$2,007 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$568.056744.8%30 W · 37 L-3.2wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-17.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Wizards14c2,500$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3501,82052.1%948 W · 872 L+48.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbbda…6e2cbacked Bulls66c2,500$1,650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$85012855.5%71 W · 57 L+11.1wins+0.09per pick47cpaid+31.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xbdcb…5d4ebacked Wizards16c2,499$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$399.820%0 W · 2 L-0.3wins-0.14per pick14cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xde04…fa37backed Bulls65c2,347$1,534 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$813.472,16940.8%885 W · 1,284 L-8.7wins0.00per pick41cpaid-14.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe3e4…9241backed Wizards35c2,339$811 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$810.943432.4%11 W · 23 L0.0wins0.00per pick32cpaid+21.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4c03…0cc1backed Wizards29c2,321$683 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$683.141,60211.8%189 W · 1,413 L-4.8wins0.00per pick12cpaid-6.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9285…749ebacked Bulls67c2,200$1,474 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$725.995541.8%23 W · 32 L+2.6wins+0.05per pick37cpaid+19.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xaf5d…7253backed Bulls42c2,143$900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,243.2111242.9%48 W · 64 L-2.8wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-10.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd161…4cc1backed Bulls67c2,100$1,411 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$68978445.8%359 W · 425 L+5.0wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x478a…2deabacked Bulls73c2,034$1,494 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$540.099050%45 W · 45 L-3.9wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-10.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2366…1078backed Bulls51c2,012$1,026 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$985.7656352%293 W · 270 L+22.6wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+8.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xa07d…9871backed Bulls61c2,000$1,220 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78022846.1%105 W · 123 L-6.0wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-11.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5fa9…a36dbacked Wizards50c1,896$943 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$942.7424038.3%92 W · 148 L-8.1wins-0.03per pick42cpaid+2.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe965…6559backed Bulls63c1,861$1,181 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$679.813857.9%22 W · 16 L+2.4wins+0.06per pick52cpaid+13%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x60cc…f0dfbacked Bulls54c1,852$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$852.1410852.8%57 W · 51 L-0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid-3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6532…2fc8backed Wizards14c1,831$256 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$256.4850%4 W · 4 L+0.4wins+0.04per pick46cpaid-11%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5137…1556backed Wizards15c1,754$255 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$254.522,26543.4%982 W · 1,283 L-26.7wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-4.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5d1e…d5dfbacked Bulls67c1,716$1,150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$565.517153.8%92 W · 79 L+8.4wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+4.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe8c9…dfeabacked Bulls69c1,705$1,175 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$530.444259.5%25 W · 17 L-2.7wins-0.07per pick66cpaid-11.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xac2a…7418backed Wizards26c1,701$435 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4355729.8%17 W · 40 L-3.9wins-0.07per pick37cpaid-23.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x52b4…34a8backed Wizards5c1,671$87 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$86.948347.2%228 W · 255 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-4.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Wizards32c1,601$505 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$505.321,75240.6%712 W · 1,040 L-3.3wins0.00per pick41cpaid-5.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x29bf…25b0backed Bulls50c1,600$796 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$804.462060%12 W · 8 L+2.3wins+0.12per pick48cpaid+18%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x5ce2…deabbacked Wizards45c1,573$714 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$713.82128.3%1 W · 11 L-4.6wins-0.38per pick47cpaid-80.2%equal weight36-0.12 edge/pick
0xe18a…fd87backed Bulls64c1,568$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$567.666931.9%22 W · 47 L-1.4wins-0.02per pick34cpaid+2.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Wizards43c1,529$663 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$662.621,34129.9%401 W · 940 L-53.8wins-0.04per pick34cpaid-35.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x02b1…c764backed Wizards35c1,500$522 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5224757.4%27 W · 20 L+1.8wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+13.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf1a4…e9adbacked Wizards14c1,500$210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2104535.6%16 W · 29 L-1.0wins-0.02per pick38cpaid-21.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xd8f4…c82cbacked Bulls67c1,500$1,005 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4952673.1%19 W · 7 L+1.1wins+0.04per pick69cpaid+1.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd162…0d24backed Wizards24c1,485$353 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$352.694843.8%21 W · 27 L+4.8wins+0.10per pick34cpaid+33.3%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x08ce…f301backed Wizards21c1,431$293 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$293.4213835.5%49 W · 89 L-5.5wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-25.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xad1b…5da0backed Wizards15c1,333$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2004944.9%22 W · 27 L-2.5wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-10.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x28f0…ceabbacked Wizards16c1,330$210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$209.9715945.9%73 W · 86 L-6.7wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-10.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5132…61a7backed Bulls70c1,322$925 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$397.395761.4%35 W · 22 L+4.4wins+0.08per pick54cpaid+17.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xd461…1d6cbacked Bulls46c1,300$602 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$698.0515228.3%43 W · 109 L-5.7wins-0.04per pick32cpaid-27.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xcd3a…67cabacked Wizards27c1,256$339 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$339.1550838.2%194 W · 314 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick34cpaid+1.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe3b3…2e90backed Bulls57c1,253$720 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$532.631553.3%8 W · 7 L-1.3wins-0.09per pick62cpaid-17.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed Bulls72c1,215$881 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$334.545,84446.7%2,728 W · 3,116 L+32.7wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1bc6…c936backed Wizards33c1,207$398 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$398.4615547.1%73 W · 82 L+5.3wins+0.03per pick44cpaid+4.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x022b…b28cbacked Wizards15c1,200$180 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18016730.5%51 W · 116 L-8.7wins-0.05per pick36cpaid-15.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x3f4b…e0dbbacked Bulls58c1,199$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$499.112759.3%16 W · 11 L+1.8wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+2.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x3a09…f9f7backed Wizards14c1,193$168 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$168.011,29448.1%623 W · 671 L+0.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6859…3308backed Bulls60c1,178$707 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$471.014450%22 W · 22 L+4.8wins+0.11per pick39cpaid+17.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x1a10…8b30backed Wizards25c1,134$284 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$283.550239%196 W · 306 L-8.9wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd903…bf9dbacked Wizards36c1,091$392 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$391.5844654.3%242 W · 204 L+21.5wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+5.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x4987…804bbacked Wizards36c1,065$384 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$383.523148.4%15 W · 16 L+1.2wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+2.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8e69…85d4backed Wizards1c1,056$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1540%0 W · 4 L0.0wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xca8f…d963backed Wizards15c1,050$155 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$154.9860834.4%209 W · 399 L+8.1wins+0.01per pick33cpaid-1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4818…fde0backed Bulls62c1,043$643 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$400.4351753.8%278 W · 239 L+11.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x371a…34b0backed Wizards1c1,032$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.321,0351.1%11 W · 1,024 L-24.4wins-0.02per pick3cpaid-90.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

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Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.