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Premier League · resolved market

Spread: Manchester City FC (-1.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Sunderland AFCof Manchester City FC, Sunderland AFC
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Premier Leagueevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$99,608
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$103,340

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $99,608 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 132 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Premier League is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Premier League
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x204f…5e14backed Sunderland AFC65c16,472$10,749 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,723.16,11745.8%2,803 W · 3,314 L-28.6wins0.00per pick46cpaid-12.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x010d…2b15backed Manchester City FC45c13,176$5,971 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,971.4330%0 W · 3 L-1.3wins-0.44per pick44cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x4133…5e70backed Sunderland AFC67c9,133$6,102 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,030.922,66145.5%1,210 W · 1,451 L-11.1wins0.00per pick46cpaid-9.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xac47…d234backed Manchester City FC31c8,553$2,636 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,635.614841.7%20 W · 28 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-15.3%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xa445…6711backed Manchester City FC43c7,442$3,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,200.034850%24 W · 24 L-2.0wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-13.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Sunderland AFC65c6,770$4,428 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,342.251,00446.3%465 W · 539 L+25.8wins+0.03per pick44cpaid-2.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Sunderland AFC57c6,096$3,475 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,621.252,21249.3%1,091 W · 1,121 L-9.3wins0.00per pick50cpaid-4.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Manchester City FC44c5,001$2,207 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,206.751,21241.7%505 W · 707 L-1.6wins0.00per pick42cpaid-1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x827f…7f59backed Sunderland AFC57c5,000$2,850 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,149.934841.7%20 W · 28 L+2.7wins+0.06per pick36cpaid+15.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x24d8…e8a8backed Sunderland AFC54c3,728$2,013 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,715.038853.4%47 W · 41 L-0.2wins0.00per pick54cpaid-9.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x16b2…a881backed Sunderland AFC55c2,205$1,213 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$992.3721853.2%116 W · 102 L+5.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+5.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe6ee…b3aabacked Sunderland AFC56c2,000$1,120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8802646.2%12 W · 14 L-1.0wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-12.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd146…9bf0backed Manchester City FC43c2,000$860 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$859.9945936.2%166 W · 293 L+4.7wins+0.01per pick35cpaid-1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Sunderland AFC64c1,901$1,214 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$686.774,74441.8%1,983 W · 2,761 L+28.2wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-14.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x48de…95babacked Manchester City FC43c1,527$657 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$656.732528%7 W · 18 L-4.9wins-0.20per pick48cpaid-49.6%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0xe18a…fd87backed Manchester City FC43c1,512$650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65053134.5%183 W · 348 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x13fa…3facbacked Manchester City FC42c1,465$615 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$615.1760728%170 W · 437 L+2.7wins0.00per pick28cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Manchester City FC43c1,092$470 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$469.6121253.8%114 W · 98 L+4.3wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+4.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5487…a014backed Sunderland AFC57c1,053$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$452.7972249.9%360 W · 362 L+5.4wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa097…fba7backed Manchester City FC45c1,000$450 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4503545.7%16 W · 19 L+3.4wins+0.10per pick36cpaid+26.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x5bc4…f44fbacked Sunderland AFC56c999.97$560 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$439.9921656.9%123 W · 93 L+14.1wins+0.07per pick50cpaid+14.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x0180…b8cdbacked Manchester City FC43c951.77$409 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$409.268927%24 W · 65 L-11.9wins-0.13per pick40cpaid-32.3%equal weight38-0.10 edge/pick
0x0d82…ffb2backed Manchester City FC44c895.45$394 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$394742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.3wins-0.04per pick47cpaid+6.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc2f8…bac1backed Manchester City FC44c800$352 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$352333.3%1 W · 2 L+0.1wins+0.03per pick30cpaid-22.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x63ac…3891backed Sunderland AFC57c760$433 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$326.81100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.43per pick57cpaid+75.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc6c2…5f79backed Sunderland AFC57c740$422 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$318.21100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.43per pick57cpaid+75.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x04ab…7a62backed Manchester City FC44c700$308 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30830%0 W · 3 L-1.7wins-0.56per pick56cpaid-100%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xe271…1570backed Manchester City FC44c636.36$280 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2805518.2%10 W · 45 L-9.5wins-0.17per pick35cpaid-58.3%equal weight37-0.12 edge/pick
0xba26…23c9backed Sunderland AFC55c606.8$334 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$272.339156%219 W · 172 L+12.8wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+10.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa041…04d2backed Manchester City FC43c604.65$260 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2603935.9%14 W · 25 L-2.2wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-21.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x3334…a65dbacked Manchester City FC40c594.24$239 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2395026%13 W · 37 L-8.5wins-0.17per pick43cpaid-42.7%equal weight37-0.11 edge/pick
0x8944…41d5backed Manchester City FC23c500$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1153928.2%11 W · 28 L-4.4wins-0.11per pick39cpaid-45.9%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x63c6…0cc9backed Manchester City FC42c494.52$208 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$207.710%0 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.42per pick42cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdab0…2fe9backed Manchester City FC43c465.12$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2002055%11 W · 9 L-0.7wins-0.04per pick59cpaid-15.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x901f…b8b0backed Manchester City FC43c465.12$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2004047.5%19 W · 21 L-3.5wins-0.09per pick56cpaid-17.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x70db…05c8backed Sunderland AFC59c425.59$251 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$174.492536%9 W · 16 L-2.6wins-0.11per pick47cpaid-26.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x06a9…1a49backed Manchester City FC45c358.59$160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16037840.5%153 W · 225 L-15.8wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-10.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8dee…412bbacked Sunderland AFC57c350.88$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$150.8812639.7%50 W · 76 L-4.7wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-11.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb0e6…7ef4backed Manchester City FC32c305$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.63850%19 W · 19 L+0.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-4.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5f84…67efbacked Manchester City FC23c300$69 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6919128.8%55 W · 136 L-0.9wins0.00per pick29cpaid+4.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x99fe…b61cbacked Manchester City FC43c280$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119.62060%12 W · 8 L+2.1wins+0.10per pick50cpaid+25.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x2e7d…eedcbacked Sunderland AFC58c271.63$158 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$113.478242.7%35 W · 47 L-2.1wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-7.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x68cc…d976backed Sunderland AFC57c263.16$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$113.168259.8%49 W · 33 L+2.2wins+0.03per pick57cpaid+5.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe6e4…22ccbacked Manchester City FC45c250$113 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$112.518646.8%87 W · 99 L+11.2wins+0.06per pick41cpaid+12.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xf95a…d895backed Manchester City FC43c232.56$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1009534.7%33 W · 62 L+2.4wins+0.03per pick32cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb269…6adebacked Manchester City FC43c232.47$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.969436.2%34 W · 60 L-7.4wins-0.08per pick44cpaid-18%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x410a…0060backed Manchester City FC43c232.21$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.85850%4 W · 4 L+0.6wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+13.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x824d…1271backed Manchester City FC42c230$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.71435.7%5 W · 9 L-1.7wins-0.12per pick48cpaid-29.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xa8bd…df80backed Manchester City FC44c227.27$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1008237.8%31 W · 51 L-4.7wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-13.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x3893…6e0cbacked Manchester City FC44c227.27$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1002240.9%9 W · 13 L-0.4wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa122…9847backed Manchester City FC44c227.27$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1004839.6%19 W · 29 L-7.9wins-0.17per pick56cpaid-30.8%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0x2eae…a25fbacked Manchester City FC43c223.26$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9636036.1%130 W · 230 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick35cpaid-2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1a50…6c6bbacked Manchester City FC45c219.81$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1008332.5%27 W · 56 L-11.4wins-0.14per pick46cpaid-19%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0xc3c3…63b3backed Manchester City FC44c218.18$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.07per pick57cpaid-29.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x37c4…995bbacked Manchester City FC45c218.1$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9810%0 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.45per pick45cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3351…4e2dbacked Sunderland AFC58c201.72$117 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$84.72580%4 W · 1 L+1.3wins+0.27per pick53cpaid+52.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x256b…cd5dbacked Sunderland AFC57c200$114 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$868257.3%47 W · 35 L+5.4wins+0.07per pick51cpaid+14.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc869…bc8dbacked Manchester City FC38c200$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$763933.3%13 W · 26 L-3.9wins-0.10per pick43cpaid-25.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x7b2c…af48backed Manchester City FC43c200$86 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$861,28348%616 W · 667 L-5.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid-2.8%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x70b0…b71fbacked Manchester City FC43c200$86 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$86.217017.6%30 W · 140 L-27.5wins-0.16per pick34cpaid-60.6%equal weight34-0.14 edge/pick
0x11b3…48b6backed Manchester City FC43c197.49$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.9230%0 W · 3 L-1.3wins-0.44per pick44cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x2707…0afabacked Manchester City FC21c190.91$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$409134.1%31 W · 60 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick34cpaid-5.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0c94…a43bbacked Manchester City FC44c185.14$81 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$81.461369.2%9 W · 4 L+1.5wins+0.11per pick58cpaid+15.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9d73…be4fbacked Manchester City FC39c179.49$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7022244.1%98 W · 124 L+19.0wins+0.09per pick36cpaid+36.3%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xf035…0924backed Manchester City FC19c176.66$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.571330.8%4 W · 9 L-0.5wins-0.04per pick34cpaid-14.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1e68…3215backed Manchester City FC44c147.73$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$651936.8%7 W · 12 L-0.6wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xa178…11a2backed Manchester City FC43c147.65$63 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63.4935347.6%168 W · 185 L-15.9wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-4.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x0bd4…49b7backed Manchester City FC41c121.95$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$507742.9%33 W · 44 L-4.1wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-13.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x551c…a9c2backed Manchester City FC42c120$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.43959%23 W · 16 L+1.5wins+0.04per pick55cpaid+4.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x0eee…bc95backed Manchester City FC43c116.28$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50425%1 W · 3 L-1.0wins-0.24per pick49cpaid-55.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x571e…67b2backed Manchester City FC44c113.64$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5011736.8%43 W · 74 L-3.5wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-6.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x385e…3896backed Manchester City FC44c113.64$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5011839%46 W · 72 L-0.2wins0.00per pick39cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x42a0…3762backed Manchester City FC42c110$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46.24334.9%15 W · 28 L-7.9wins-0.18per pick53cpaid-43.1%equal weight37-0.12 edge/pick
0x09d2…cc27backed Sunderland AFC51c101.33$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.077740.3%31 W · 46 L-0.1wins0.00per pick40cpaid-17%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x051c…f25dbacked Manchester City FC44c101$44 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44.448440.5%34 W · 50 L-2.2wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-3.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe6b8…3539backed Manchester City FC43c100$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$436842.6%29 W · 39 L-1.2wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-9.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa42b…45d2backed Manchester City FC46c100$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4615955.3%88 W · 71 L-3.2wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-4.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0cff…15d1backed Manchester City FC44c100$44 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$443627.8%10 W · 26 L-6.7wins-0.19per pick46cpaid+21%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0xb226…e227backed Sunderland AFC59c100$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$416547.7%31 W · 34 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-5.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9fbd…3d15backed Manchester City FC42c99.7$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41.874447.7%21 W · 23 L+2.8wins+0.06per pick41cpaid+25.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe70c…c938backed Manchester City FC46c98.8$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4524340.7%99 W · 144 L-5.1wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-3.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x58c8…0300backed Sunderland AFC69c94.87$65 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.3957744.4%256 W · 321 L-6.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-17.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x59eb…fa33backed Manchester City FC43c93$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.993345.5%15 W · 18 L+0.6wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1e9b…829ebacked Manchester City FC44c90.91$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4016236.4%59 W · 103 L-13.2wins-0.08per pick45cpaid-19.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x8871…5163backed Manchester City FC43c89.13$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.32922.2%2 W · 7 L-3.1wins-0.34per pick57cpaid-66.9%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xb052…7adabacked Manchester City FC45c88.89$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$408653.5%46 W · 40 L+3.1wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+9.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6dfb…8defbacked Sunderland AFC57c87.72$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37.722100%2 W · 0 L+0.7wins+0.37per pick63cpaid+60.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xcd27…2aa8backed Manchester City FC46c87.13$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40933.3%3 W · 6 L-1.9wins-0.21per pick55cpaid-48.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x15ca…0a0dbacked Manchester City FC32c84.37$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$272142.9%9 W · 12 L+0.1wins0.00per pick42cpaid+30.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xafe2…e839backed Manchester City FC45c82.89$37 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37.31338.5%5 W · 8 L-0.7wins-0.05per pick44cpaid+40%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xcd3d…e7ebbacked Manchester City FC45c77.78$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3535134.8%122 W · 229 L+8.0wins+0.02per pick32cpaid+8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3a56…387cbacked Manchester City FC21c73.52$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.7729041.7%121 W · 169 L-9.4wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-23.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x14f5…eb92backed Manchester City FC43c71.05$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.552433.3%8 W · 16 L-1.7wins-0.07per pick40cpaid-34.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xbbcf…20aebacked Manchester City FC31c70$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21.76251.6%32 W · 30 L+4.6wins+0.07per pick44cpaid+22.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x3eee…e8b6backed Sunderland AFC55c64.78$36 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.1514456.3%81 W · 63 L+13.5wins+0.09per pick47cpaid+25.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x061e…81e0backed Sunderland AFC57c61.4$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.42343.5%10 W · 13 L-2.9wins-0.13per pick56cpaid-27.1%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x6c67…21eebacked Sunderland AFC57c60.67$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.099050%45 W · 45 L-3.8wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-7.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x0c2d…2570backed Sunderland AFC59c60$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.627758.8%163 W · 114 L+17.1wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+14.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xb95e…c6d6backed Sunderland AFC55c60$33 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2725560%153 W · 102 L+18.6wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+16.8%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xce3e…2f24backed Manchester City FC44c56.82$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$252934.5%10 W · 19 L-4.2wins-0.15per pick49cpaid-23.3%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Premier League and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 6 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.