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NBA · resolved market

Pistons vs. Pacers

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Pistonsof Pistons, Pacers
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,929,200
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$2,133,296

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,929,200 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 1,313 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xb744…5210backed Pacers20c846,181$170,792 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$170,791.8915443.5%67 W · 87 L+0.4wins0.00per pick43cpaid+1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2f09…4632backed Pistons79c185,000$146,154 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$38,845.820253.5%108 W · 94 L+6.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+5.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0140…9028backed Pacers21c173,035$36,237 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36,237.44544.4%20 W · 25 L+2.6wins+0.06per pick39cpaid+12.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xfa21…1438backed Pistons80c73,694$58,645 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,049.3216848.2%81 W · 87 L-4.5wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-11.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Pistons80c60,266$48,147 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,119.042,04548.4%990 W · 1,055 L-30.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x14ac…cb21backed Pistons79c42,500$33,750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,75037557.6%216 W · 159 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x64b5…7543backed Pacers21c34,056$7,152 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,151.7335235.8%126 W · 226 L+5.1wins+0.01per pick34cpaid+10.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1e3a…4033backed Pistons80c31,250$25,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,25034062.1%211 W · 129 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbddf…c684backed Pacers21c26,335$5,530 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,530.3472648.3%351 W · 375 L+30.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+11%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x685e…6f30backed Pistons80c25,086$20,069 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,017.1710757.9%62 W · 45 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick59cpaid-5.7%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xd6ce…0772backed Pistons79c24,367$19,250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,117.0711741.9%49 W · 68 L-2.8wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-11%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe20a…e469backed Pacers21c23,555$4,942 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,941.962,36148.1%1,136 W · 1,225 L-41.8wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-3.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe405…bf91backed Pistons80c20,792$16,633 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,158.3748448.8%236 W · 248 L-5.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Pistons79c20,000$15,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,20038248.7%186 W · 196 L+13.9wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+0.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe258…2330backed Pistons79c20,000$15,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,20023245.3%105 W · 127 L+0.5wins0.00per pick45cpaid+4.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfc4a…87d4backed Pacers21c20,000$4,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,199.943551.4%18 W · 17 L-3.0wins-0.08per pick60cpaid-23.6%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x9f05…8937backed Pacers19c18,538$3,464 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,463.8347028.1%132 W · 338 L+27.2wins+0.06per pick22cpaid+13.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x5139…a8dbbacked Pacers20c17,877$3,639 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,638.5869852%363 W · 335 L+10.3wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Pacers5c17,688$970 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$970.321,19032%381 W · 809 L-58.1wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-34.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x9285…749ebacked Pacers20c16,130$3,268 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,268.095541.8%23 W · 32 L+2.6wins+0.05per pick37cpaid+19.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4f5b…d411backed Pistons80c13,786$11,029 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,757.185959.3%35 W · 24 L-4.1wins-0.07per pick66cpaid-12.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Pacers21c13,707$2,879 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,878.544,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf1b2…a074backed Pistons80c13,203$10,497 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,705.641100%1 W · 0 L+0.2wins+0.20per pick80cpaid+25.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9615…60ddbacked Pistons78c12,000$9,410 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,589.9814853.4%79 W · 69 L+3.0wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1802…d00fbacked Pacers12c11,956$1,483 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,482.7716243.8%71 W · 91 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid+5.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdefe…5432backed Pistons79c11,625$9,184 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,441.257468.9%51 W · 23 L+1.1wins+0.02per pick67cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x17cb…3ab8backed Pistons79c11,606$9,169 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,437.267437.8%28 W · 46 L-9.6wins-0.13per pick51cpaid-39.7%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Pistons79c10,585$8,362 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,222.829,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8980…d4f4backed Pistons79c10,000$7,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,099.9721951.1%112 W · 107 L+7.4wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+9.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2487…fa80backed Pacers21c10,000$2,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,099.9418045%81 W · 99 L+4.1wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+13.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Pacers20c9,167$1,860 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,860.465,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7452…5ccbbacked Pacers0c9,000$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1810%0 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick0cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7321…5e5fbacked Pistons80c8,600$6,880 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,7201520%3 W · 12 L-4.1wins-0.27per pick47cpaid-74.4%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x44a1…bd21backed Pistons79c8,000$6,320 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,68026637.2%99 W · 167 L-10.5wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-25.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x94e5…6cfebacked Pistons80c8,000$6,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,6004456.8%25 W · 19 L+2.0wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x84e7…5f44backed Pistons80c8,000$6,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,600757.1%4 W · 3 L-1.1wins-0.16per pick74cpaid-27.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xf704…bed4backed Pistons80c7,957$6,365 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,591.3416943.8%74 W · 95 L-5.4wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-12.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8c81…dcd3backed Pacers21c7,721$1,619 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,619.446342.5%197 W · 266 L+8.3wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa5dc…ec43backed Pistons80c7,150$5,720 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,429.9869049.4%341 W · 349 L-30.0wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-9.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x4c03…0cc1backed Pacers4c7,117$264 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$263.921,60211.8%189 W · 1,413 L-4.8wins0.00per pick12cpaid-6.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7412…85d0backed Pacers21c7,105$1,492 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,492.0526544.9%119 W · 146 L-8.7wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-4.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x016e…c700backed Pistons80c7,000$5,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,4002466.7%16 W · 8 L+0.1wins0.00per pick66cpaid-1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3eac…4c8cbacked Pistons79c6,576$5,195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,380.9611558.3%67 W · 48 L+5.0wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Pacers8c6,494$503 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$502.84,87848%2,341 W · 2,537 L+61.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xca3f…8078backed Pistons79c6,441$5,114 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,326.5655346.8%259 W · 294 L-6.5wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-5.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1013…87d5backed Pistons80c6,250$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,2508863.6%56 W · 32 L+6.2wins+0.07per pick57cpaid+5.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x65fe…cef1backed Pacers20c5,545$1,109 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,109.04450%2 W · 2 L+0.7wins+0.18per pick32cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf5d9…a6e1backed Pistons78c5,128$4,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,128.215667.9%38 W · 18 L+2.5wins+0.04per pick63cpaid+2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x10b3…40d4backed Pistons80c5,000$4,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0003966.7%26 W · 13 L+1.3wins+0.03per pick63cpaid+7.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6ce2…e868backed Pacers21c5,000$1,050 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0505850%29 W · 29 L-2.0wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-17.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x1252…dec2backed Pistons80c5,000$4,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0004052.5%21 W · 19 L-2.3wins-0.06per pick58cpaid-11%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x089b…2193backed Pacers5c5,000$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25027731.4%87 W · 190 L-7.7wins-0.03per pick34cpaid-3.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xec5e…49bbbacked Pistons80c4,974$3,979 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$994.851050%5 W · 5 L+0.8wins+0.08per pick42cpaid+16.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xa315…cabbbacked Pistons79c4,850$3,832 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,018.562351.4%320 W · 303 L-13.7wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-2.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbce9…03e9backed Pacers0c4,413$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.68820%0 W · 882 L-6.7wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5b8e…5c3cbacked Pacers19c4,311$824 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$823.8444459.7%265 W · 179 L+12.4wins+0.03per pick57cpaid+7.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x519d…37a1backed Pacers1c4,050$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$307502%15 W · 735 L-3.2wins0.00per pick2cpaid-63.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Pacers6c4,024$243 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$242.661,00334.7%348 W · 655 L-44.7wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-35.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x789c…3b85backed Pacers20c4,000$800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$800366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.8wins+0.28per pick39cpaid+127.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd9e3…8a03backed Pacers21c4,000$840 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$840837.5%3 W · 5 L-0.6wins-0.08per pick45cpaid-49.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe9ad…9577backed Pistons80c4,000$3,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$799.982343.5%10 W · 13 L-4.7wins-0.20per pick64cpaid-36.8%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0xd3d6…34e3backed Pacers19c3,983$743 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$743.3720542.9%88 W · 117 L-7.5wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-5.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x7cd4…8ed6backed Pistons80c3,835$3,068 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$767.061050%5 W · 5 L-1.4wins-0.14per pick64cpaid-29.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x59b6…307fbacked Pistons80c3,750$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$75027152%141 W · 130 L-17.9wins-0.07per pick59cpaid-12.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Pacers20c3,745$749 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7493,59150.1%1,798 W · 1,793 L+21.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x364e…1996backed Pistons80c3,736$2,989 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$747.33959%23 W · 16 L-1.3wins-0.03per pick62cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa849…c825backed Pistons79c3,700$2,937 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$76316641%68 W · 98 L-12.9wins-0.08per pick49cpaid-17.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x8ddd…39eebacked Pistons80c3,549$2,839 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$709.7422542.2%95 W · 130 L-4.9wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-9.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xeef4…32a1backed Pacers21c3,540$733 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$732.9410041%41 W · 59 L+5.5wins+0.05per pick36cpaid+11.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xec13…862bbacked Pacers21c3,333$700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$699.9328850.3%145 W · 143 L+4.7wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xedb1…819ebacked Pistons80c3,288$2,630 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$657.515855.7%88 W · 70 L-9.8wins-0.06per pick62cpaid-10.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x6239…c24fbacked Pacers20c3,196$639 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$639.1795049.4%469 W · 481 L+10.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe212…d5f4backed Pistons79c3,062$2,419 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$642.965657.1%32 W · 24 L-3.8wins-0.07per pick64cpaid-12.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x447e…9710backed Pacers20c2,867$573 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$573.465251.9%27 W · 25 L+1.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+20.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5137…1556backed Pacers20c2,779$559 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$558.562,26543.4%982 W · 1,283 L-26.7wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-4.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa72c…a633backed Pistons80c2,505$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$505.169953.5%53 W · 46 L-2.9wins-0.03per pick56cpaid-1.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xcd3a…67cabacked Pacers4c2,501$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.9550838.2%194 W · 314 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick34cpaid+1.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xb390…642bbacked Pistons80c2,500$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5001,66150.3%836 W · 825 L-14.9wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x20cb…719bbacked Pistons80c2,500$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5001662.5%10 W · 6 L+0.5wins+0.03per pick60cpaid+6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x05e9…3568backed Pistons80c2,500$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5001172.7%8 W · 3 L+1.4wins+0.12per pick60cpaid+21.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x6397…cd96backed Pacers21c2,335$481 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$480.92333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.2wins-0.07per pick41cpaid-32%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Pistons79c2,307$1,830 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$476.641,91054.3%1,038 W · 872 L+25.2wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe831…a42abacked Pacers18c2,276$416 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$416.1618349.2%90 W · 93 L+10.5wins+0.06per pick43cpaid+17.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xeb22…808abacked Pacers8c2,250$190 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$190.4495641.7%399 W · 557 L+1.6wins0.00per pick42cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Pistons79c2,222$1,755 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$466.6276850.3%386 W · 382 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9731…9b35backed Pacers20c2,184$434 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$434.482,51249.1%1,234 W · 1,278 L+6.9wins0.00per pick49cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7373…3964backed Pistons80c2,150$1,720 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4303154.8%17 W · 14 L-2.3wins-0.07per pick62cpaid-10.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xc1c4…48d7backed Pacers21c2,000$420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4204165.9%27 W · 14 L+3.6wins+0.09per pick57cpaid+11.5%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x079b…70e5backed Pistons78c2,000$1,560 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$440560%3 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.10per pick70cpaid-20.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8839…8a3ebacked Pacers20c2,000$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4007433.8%25 W · 49 L-8.5wins-0.11per pick45cpaid-31.7%equal weight41-0.09 edge/pick
0xb31d…0586backed Pistons79c2,000$1,580 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4202133.3%7 W · 14 L-3.1wins-0.15per pick48cpaid-38.6%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x437c…f458backed Pacers21c1,900$399 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39914356.6%81 W · 62 L+9.2wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+13.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x817b…3c25backed Pacers14c1,807$251 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$250.631,04841.1%431 W · 617 L+23.6wins+0.02per pick39cpaid+1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbdab…47a8backed Pistons80c1,800$1,440 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$360977.8%7 W · 2 L+2.2wins+0.24per pick53cpaid+58.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x98c4…f3e2backed Pacers10c1,720$165 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1651729.4%5 W · 12 L-1.4wins-0.08per pick38cpaid-11.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xcf6c…7e66backed Pacers5c1,710$86 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$85.559646.1%275 W · 321 L-16.2wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-10.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd97c…aedbbacked Pistons80c1,691$1,353 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$338.2718452.7%97 W · 87 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-10.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x4a1e…86d3backed Pacers20c1,665$333 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$333.0527840.6%113 W · 165 L-22.5wins-0.08per pick49cpaid-17.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xba26…23c9backed Pistons79c1,539$1,213 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$325.332,79650.3%1,405 W · 1,391 L+27.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3bc4…3431backed Pistons80c1,528$1,223 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$305.691566.7%10 W · 5 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick69cpaid-7.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 9 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.