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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: BetBoom Team vs Team Liquid - Game 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Team Liquidof BetBoom Team, Team Liquid
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$206,317
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$247,750

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $206,317 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 119 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf9b5…09eebacked Team Liquid60c20,799$12,569 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,230.8655157%314 W · 237 L+17.4wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8c0b…7aa5backed BetBoom Team34c14,310$4,866 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,865.6545139.2%177 W · 274 L+0.9wins0.00per pick39cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3833…33d1backed BetBoom Team45c12,487$5,589 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,588.942650%213 W · 213 L+4.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xed10…5e7abacked BetBoom Team0c10,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101833.3%6 W · 12 L-3.2wins-0.18per pick51cpaid-42.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x6304…e570backed BetBoom Team29c8,474$2,440 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,439.9527645.3%125 W · 151 L-8.2wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-10.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked BetBoom Team15c7,882$1,158 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,158.312,01244.2%889 W · 1,123 L+36.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdcfe…44b5backed BetBoom Team19c6,555$1,263 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,263.532854.9%180 W · 148 L+11.8wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+2.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed Team Liquid57c5,160$2,933 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,227.896557.4%554 W · 411 L+49.5wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+7.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x74ef…1ac6backed Team Liquid61c4,951$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,951.0547660.7%289 W · 187 L-0.2wins0.00per pick61cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4d84…21b1backed BetBoom Team6c4,748$287 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28718143.6%79 W · 102 L-4.4wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-14.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb555…0c4bbacked BetBoom Team14c4,386$606 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$605.8710342.7%44 W · 59 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked BetBoom Team28c4,326$1,207 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,207.361,82145%820 W · 1,001 L+33.5wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked BetBoom Team30c4,000$1,203 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,202.911,15547.8%552 W · 603 L+29.5wins+0.03per pick45cpaid-8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed BetBoom Team33c3,920$1,274 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,2741,03647.2%489 W · 547 L+15.3wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-9.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed BetBoom Team20c3,751$766 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$765.561,57743.9%692 W · 885 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4946…89d0backed Team Liquid50c1,587$794 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$793.554967.3%33 W · 16 L+4.7wins+0.10per pick58cpaid+9.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xc924…8276backed BetBoom Team1c1,550$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.9840%0 W · 4 L-0.7wins-0.17per pick17cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3265…d5b8backed BetBoom Team8c1,500$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1205942.4%25 W · 34 L+2.9wins+0.05per pick37cpaid+3.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed BetBoom Team25c1,299$324 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$323.532,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xa97f…a818backed BetBoom Team43c1,200$516 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51658744%258 W · 329 L+13.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf6f9…bff5backed BetBoom Team15c1,171$170 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$170.320949.3%103 W · 106 L+8.4wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-4.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xcd43…88d7backed BetBoom Team40c1,158$461 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$461.4310334%35 W · 68 L-5.0wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-14.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x500f…94bfbacked Team Liquid63c1,014$639 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37513558.5%79 W · 56 L+4.3wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+4.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x00a1…5062backed Team Liquid60c1,000$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40021346.5%99 W · 114 L-8.1wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-10.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xf459…7a53backed BetBoom Team28c988.33$272 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$272.110260.8%62 W · 40 L+5.7wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+9.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed BetBoom Team39c924.47$356 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$355.9881029.4%238 W · 572 L-23.5wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-10.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfbc2…514cbacked BetBoom Team9c893.33$78 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7833845.6%154 W · 184 L+6.4wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-5.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7032…0a8bbacked BetBoom Team35c853.46$299 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$298.5655251.6%285 W · 267 L+10.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9fa8…591bbacked BetBoom Team41c847.51$345 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$345.481250%6 W · 6 L+0.7wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+5.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8fc2…64d1backed BetBoom Team14c809.52$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11011043.6%48 W · 62 L+3.5wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+14.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x503d…886abacked BetBoom Team14c726.25$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$992931%9 W · 20 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick32cpaid-30.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xccf5…42f2backed BetBoom Team36c694.44$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25057455.4%318 W · 256 L+6.5wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8725…eb10backed Team Liquid53c644.99$341 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$303.7677941.1%320 W · 459 L-7.9wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xad72…4f5ebacked BetBoom Team47c611.41$287 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$286.8636851.6%190 W · 178 L+25.7wins+0.07per pick45cpaid+16.3%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x6998…ae95backed BetBoom Team17c565.62$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$93.9216821.4%36 W · 132 L+0.4wins0.00per pick21cpaid-20.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9db0…0f6abacked BetBoom Team8c550$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46.5303.3%1 W · 29 L-2.6wins-0.09per pick12cpaid-82.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x3abf…b143backed BetBoom Team6c511.8$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.233645.5%153 W · 183 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5215…3164backed BetBoom Team42c500$208 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$207.642035%7 W · 13 L-2.7wins-0.14per pick49cpaid-35.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x7f52…c525backed Team Liquid60c500$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2009053.3%48 W · 42 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0b99…8bddbacked BetBoom Team6c500$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3077458.5%453 W · 321 L+75.1wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+12.4%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xd06c…cdafbacked BetBoom Team17c453.75$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$75.881,18643.2%512 W · 674 L+42.2wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+1.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd3b1…19bbbacked Team Liquid73c369.18$269 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$99.684156.1%23 W · 18 L-1.4wins-0.03per pick59cpaid-8.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2160…bcb3backed Team Liquid61c366$223 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$142.7443647.5%207 W · 229 L+1.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7951…bb41backed Team Liquid60c362.15$217 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$145.3864744.4%287 W · 360 L+13.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6d96…d524backed Team Liquid60c333.33$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$133.3326957.6%155 W · 114 L+3.7wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0cd9…2a08backed BetBoom Team8c323.94$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.6852243.9%229 W · 293 L+11.3wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+5.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6b1a…16b7backed BetBoom Team41c321.05$130 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$130.49333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.6wins-0.19per pick52cpaid-24.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x453e…eabcbacked Team Liquid73c320.84$235 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$86.098657%49 W · 37 L-1.8wins-0.02per pick59cpaid-9.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa474…32cbbacked Team Liquid62c320.63$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$120.6353844.4%239 W · 299 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1709…c148backed Team Liquid60c320$192 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12848352.4%253 W · 230 L-2.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid-5.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3cf3…eb8ebacked Team Liquid60c317.84$191 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$127.265829.3%17 W · 41 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick31cpaid-21.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Team Liquid68c300.48$204 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$96.931,27245%572 W · 700 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-17.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x755a…6da6backed BetBoom Team15c300.37$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$45.0618444.6%82 W · 102 L+12.2wins+0.07per pick38cpaid+25.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xe203…1b53backed BetBoom Team4c300$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1210850%54 W · 54 L+8.7wins+0.08per pick42cpaid+13.3%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xd49d…f05cbacked BetBoom Team8c300$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$242161.9%13 W · 8 L+3.3wins+0.16per pick46cpaid+45.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x368d…d853backed BetBoom Team46c300$138 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13861548.8%300 W · 315 L+8.2wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcf0a…320abacked BetBoom Team6c300$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1892056.4%519 W · 401 L+78.3wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+3.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xf679…16acbacked BetBoom Team42c300$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12722954.1%124 W · 105 L+8.2wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+7.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xfb67…fd46backed BetBoom Team25c276$69 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$699533.7%32 W · 63 L-2.4wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xce16…d66fbacked BetBoom Team38c257.97$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$98.591330.8%4 W · 9 L-1.0wins-0.08per pick39cpaid-31.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3568…c765backed BetBoom Team45c250.04$113 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$113.041936.8%7 W · 12 L-2.4wins-0.13per pick50cpaid-27%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xbe5a…13f5backed BetBoom Team20c250$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5045046.7%210 W · 240 L-11.2wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-7.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xf142…03cbbacked BetBoom Team8c212.5$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$179137.4%34 W · 57 L-8.8wins-0.10per pick47cpaid-25.8%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0x3260…85ddbacked Team Liquid54c204.16$110 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$93.666454.7%35 W · 29 L+7.9wins+0.12per pick42cpaid+16.9%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x1f04…5fc4backed Team Liquid48c201.92$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10531545.4%143 W · 172 L-19.2wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-13.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x42b7…77dcbacked Team Liquid57c199.99$114 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8699844.4%443 W · 555 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1f46…cddbbacked Team Liquid60c198.36$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.3624052.1%125 W · 115 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x13e9…7cd4backed Team Liquid55c181.82$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$81.829045.6%41 W · 49 L+3.7wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+15.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0969…b289backed BetBoom Team43c180.01$77 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$77.44032.5%13 W · 27 L-3.9wins-0.10per pick42cpaid-28.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x02d7…0c39backed BetBoom Team34c180$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.420530.7%63 W · 142 L-0.4wins0.00per pick31cpaid-5.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x95b8…47c9backed Team Liquid51c177.51$90 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.518245.1%37 W · 45 L-5.2wins-0.06per pick52cpaid-12%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xfd5c…6d2abacked BetBoom Team38c172$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65.065044%22 W · 28 L+1.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-6.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1b0e…eca9backed BetBoom Team23c164.13$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$384461.4%27 W · 17 L+1.8wins+0.04per pick57cpaid-3.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x86e0…c394backed Team Liquid56c149.94$84 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$65.9780742.6%344 W · 463 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4c8c…2359backed BetBoom Team11c145.45$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$163452.9%18 W · 16 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-12.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcdf3…1bb5backed BetBoom Team47c133.2$63 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$62.628341%116 W · 167 L+4.0wins+0.01per pick40cpaid-1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Team Liquid79c126.8$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.551,52137.9%576 W · 945 L-57.8wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-26.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x127a…3344backed BetBoom Team14c115.84$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.1913655.9%76 W · 60 L+8.0wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+3.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc3fc…5176backed BetBoom Team40c112.49$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$458543.5%37 W · 48 L-6.6wins-0.08per pick51cpaid-11.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x83d0…c927backed BetBoom Team47c106.38$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$503743.2%16 W · 21 L-4.5wins-0.12per pick56cpaid-18.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x58f1…7032backed BetBoom Team46c100$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4629550.2%148 W · 147 L+8.4wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6fe9…9c50backed Team Liquid60c100$60 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4013657.4%78 W · 58 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick58cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1532…1dadbacked Team Liquid50c100$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5022654.4%123 W · 103 L+0.1wins0.00per pick54cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc49b…70c0backed BetBoom Team10c100$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1063032.5%205 W · 425 L+1.4wins0.00per pick32cpaid-22.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5b6d…db4fbacked BetBoom Team10c100$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102454.2%13 W · 11 L+0.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid-7.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2aa7…003fbacked Team Liquid55c100$55 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4545052.4%236 W · 214 L+13.8wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+0.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xde4b…3b7dbacked Team Liquid55c100$55 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4518952.9%100 W · 89 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-4.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe239…1761backed Team Liquid69c95.65$66 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.653240.6%13 W · 19 L-3.2wins-0.10per pick51cpaid-21.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x7bef…be32backed BetBoom Team48c94.7$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4513449.3%66 W · 68 L+2.5wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+5.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbc98…b902backed BetBoom Team47c84.85$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.881060%6 W · 4 L0.0wins0.00per pick60cpaid+4.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5a28…41edbacked Team Liquid60c83.33$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33.3321350.7%108 W · 105 L+5.5wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+0.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xac93…0cfcbacked Team Liquid53c81.48$43 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37.9858152.5%305 W · 276 L-10.5wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x91df…fd49backed Team Liquid61c81.44$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31.7614868.9%102 W · 46 L+5.3wins+0.04per pick65cpaid+4.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5036…5540backed BetBoom Team40c70$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28250%1 W · 1 L+0.4wins+0.18per pick32cpaid+108.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9679…9315backed BetBoom Team34c58.82$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2016058.8%94 W · 66 L+9.6wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed Team Liquid67c52.41$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17.5366662.2%414 W · 252 L+60.2wins+0.09per pick53cpaid+10.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x3e2d…fb60backed Team Liquid54c50$27 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2350444%222 W · 282 L-7.4wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xb759…ed73backed Team Liquid60c50$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2010049%49 W · 51 L-5.1wins-0.05per pick54cpaid-5.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x540d…c8f9backed Team Liquid71c49.7$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.3138855.2%214 W · 174 L+29.8wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+7.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x899e…0863backed BetBoom Team49c40.82$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2026454.5%144 W · 120 L+2.8wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 2 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.