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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: B8 vs 3DMAX (BO3) - PGL Bucharest Group Stage

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
3DMAXof B8, 3DMAX
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,212,560
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,564,290

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,212,560 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 675 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x1a5c…a375backed 3DMAX34c200,057$68,981 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$131,075.165238.5%20 W · 32 L-1.9wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-16.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe015…6ffdbacked B845c57,511$25,928 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25,927.5415245.4%69 W · 83 L+4.7wins+0.03per pick42cpaid-2.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2307…3934backed B877c43,319$33,438 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33,437.7223852.9%126 W · 112 L-0.8wins0.00per pick53cpaid-3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6adc…bebabacked 3DMAX25c37,955$9,489 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28,466.2413633.1%45 W · 91 L-5.6wins-0.04per pick37cpaid-17.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5c3a…020bbacked B875c36,142$27,107 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27,106.715345.3%24 W · 29 L-1.7wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-13.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked B840c34,727$13,733 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,732.993,25650.3%1,637 W · 1,619 L+97.8wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-6.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x959a…7b64backed 3DMAX47c32,146$15,263 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16,882.681566.7%10 W · 5 L+2.0wins+0.14per pick53cpaid+26.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x30c7…ac3bbacked B874c32,125$23,650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23,649.8875452.7%397 W · 357 L+27.1wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+8.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x21ec…5348backed 3DMAX49c25,367$12,430 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,937.0972453.7%389 W · 335 L+11.9wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd202…8973backed 3DMAX36c18,170$6,541 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,628.5617643.2%76 W · 100 L-6.8wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-10.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked B836c17,725$6,459 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,459.023,09648.5%1,501 W · 1,595 L+135.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xff80…9b4dbacked B851c15,879$8,098 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,098.1332552.6%171 W · 154 L+11.7wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+4.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x50e0…776ebacked B80c13,490$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.493641.7%15 W · 21 L-2.1wins-0.06per pick48cpaid-27.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x9cb9…32f2backed 3DMAX49c11,000$5,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,599.9730340.3%122 W · 181 L-4.4wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-12%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x3f97…4059backed B850c10,835$5,453 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,452.5846149.9%230 W · 231 L-1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1c07…08c5backed B82c10,401$159 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$159.45438.9%21 W · 33 L-2.9wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-30.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x643e…679bbacked B80c10,306$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.7430%0 W · 3 L-0.6wins-0.21per pick21cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8f69…7df1backed 3DMAX49c10,000$4,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,099.9975350.5%380 W · 373 L+16.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+1.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x86fb…03d4backed B858c9,748$5,654 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,653.848552.9%45 W · 40 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfb51…082dbacked B858c9,748$5,654 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,653.8412352.8%65 W · 58 L+3.7wins+0.03per pick50cpaid-1.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7a14…d748backed B86c9,542$526 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$526.1757358.8%337 W · 236 L+16.1wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+1.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xda34…01a8backed 3DMAX41c7,640$3,118 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,521.3511533%38 W · 77 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick34cpaid-0.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5eab…d552backed B850c7,557$3,797 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,796.8418624.2%45 W · 141 L-5.2wins-0.03per pick27cpaid-30.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x18bb…e5cdbacked B816c7,212$1,169 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,169.2130726.4%81 W · 226 L+8.8wins+0.03per pick24cpaid+6.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7645…3117backed B849c7,000$3,430 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,43071645.9%329 W · 387 L-3.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x70c1…dba0backed B851c6,824$3,480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,480.0416152.8%85 W · 76 L+10.5wins+0.07per pick46cpaid+14.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xd7f6…8160backed B873c6,540$4,779 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,779.4910%0 W · 1 L-0.7wins-0.73per pick73cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked B864c6,081$3,884 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,884.431,05449%516 W · 538 L+38.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-10.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5674…8b14backed B856c6,009$3,347 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,346.6436742.8%157 W · 210 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe8e1…49ddbacked B846c5,735$2,637 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,636.51,39848.4%676 W · 722 L+11.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x29b5…cc6cbacked 3DMAX42c5,729$2,402 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,327.55,02855%2,763 W · 2,265 L+112.5wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8aa6…83f9backed 3DMAX36c5,342$1,923 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,419.0218442.9%79 W · 105 L-6.5wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-10.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2765…7ee4backed B876c5,064$3,868 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,868.164552.9%341 W · 304 L+27.2wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+9.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x67e6…86edbacked B875c5,000$3,750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,7506450%32 W · 32 L+1.8wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+15.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfa88…85a5backed B849c5,000$2,450 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,45023243.5%101 W · 131 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-3.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x183f…85e3backed B846c4,912$2,272 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,271.7823848.3%115 W · 123 L+3.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-2.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xe3d4…2bacbacked B812c4,912$586 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$586.1644657.2%255 W · 191 L-20.6wins-0.05per pick62cpaid-5.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x32cc…68b3backed B858c4,874$2,827 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,826.9221351.2%109 W · 104 L-1.0wins0.00per pick52cpaid-4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed B844c4,861$2,147 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,147.16,46642.9%2,777 W · 3,689 L-78.0wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2302…d6d2backed B858c4,861$2,819 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,819.0924544.5%109 W · 136 L-8.2wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-16.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked B859c4,734$2,792 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,792.261,61145.4%731 W · 880 L+30.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-14.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6239…1d79backed B851c4,598$2,345 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,344.9720946.9%98 W · 111 L-9.3wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-8.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5b63…11a4backed 3DMAX47c4,283$2,001 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,281.641,60646.8%752 W · 854 L-27.6wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x355b…18ecbacked 3DMAX75c4,228$3,185 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,043.061984.2%16 W · 3 L+2.5wins+0.13per pick71cpaid+18.9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x67b6…00bcbacked B864c4,000$2,560 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,56028538.2%109 W · 176 L-10.0wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-8.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xbd09…a188backed B859c3,965$2,340 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,339.619645.4%89 W · 107 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-11.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0438…9d98backed 3DMAX51c3,786$1,942 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,844.8424346.9%114 W · 129 L-7.1wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-11.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x25ac…3e47backed B865c3,481$2,270 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,269.638564.7%55 W · 30 L+3.7wins+0.04per pick60cpaid+4.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8120…54c9backed B858c3,415$1,981 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,980.7920838%79 W · 129 L-10.4wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-13.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xc257…358ebacked B862c3,387$2,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,099.8939249%192 W · 200 L+0.9wins0.00per pick49cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb5bd…b891backed B858c3,361$1,950 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,949.65466.7%36 W · 18 L+5.1wins+0.10per pick57cpaid+16.3%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x8e8c…65ddbacked 3DMAX36c3,234$1,164 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,069.7484454.3%458 W · 386 L+4.6wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0659…d74dbacked B876c3,145$2,403 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,403.3497952.4%513 W · 466 L+26.4wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+3.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc974…eb16backed B875c3,106$2,328 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,328.2710%0 W · 1 L-0.7wins-0.75per pick75cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x54ea…f74abacked B846c3,021$1,404 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,403.9825344.3%112 W · 141 L-7.2wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-10.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x33bc…37dcbacked B875c3,001$2,251 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,250.7481244.3%360 W · 452 L-0.3wins0.00per pick44cpaid+2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked B824c2,984$721 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$721.321,25646.7%587 W · 669 L+17.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-16%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe4da…1772backed B850c2,956$1,477 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,477.1453746.2%248 W · 289 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe169…4653backed 3DMAX37c2,849$1,054 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,794.8511253.6%60 W · 52 L-4.9wins-0.04per pick58cpaid-10.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed B847c2,839$1,337 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,337.175,26231.3%1,647 W · 3,615 L-381.6wins-0.07per pick39cpaid-37.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x0caf…91adbacked 3DMAX72c2,616$1,880 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$735.9212465.3%81 W · 43 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick66cpaid-1.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x78a2…d0a5backed 3DMAX54c2,595$1,397 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,197.8513546.7%63 W · 72 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-9.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf7c2…9b8dbacked B860c2,562$1,537 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,537.247047.4%223 W · 247 L+11.1wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4afb…ed2bbacked 3DMAX35c2,550$892 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,657.474837.5%18 W · 30 L-2.0wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-15.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8dd1…5a9bbacked B878c2,545$1,973 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,973.0220458.3%119 W · 85 L-10.4wins-0.05per pick63cpaid-7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x9cb4…8285backed 3DMAX36c2,532$911 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,620.4220756%116 W · 91 L+8.6wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+13.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9767…b5c4backed B857c2,511$1,432 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,432.129850%49 W · 49 L+4.1wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+10%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x82de…1337backed B858c2,490$1,444 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,444.237757.1%44 W · 33 L+3.8wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+7.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x07d0…1310backed B858c2,481$1,439 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,439.163138.7%12 W · 19 L-5.1wins-0.16per pick55cpaid-39.1%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked B828c2,469$699 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$699.382,22141.3%917 W · 1,304 L-22.6wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-19.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x67bb…b6efbacked 3DMAX49c2,424$1,199 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,224.8175758.3%441 W · 316 L+5.0wins+0.01per pick58cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3b87…6a47backed B859c2,338$1,374 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,373.6513059.2%77 W · 53 L+4.1wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+0.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed 3DMAX39c2,250$880 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,369.981,40833.7%475 W · 933 L+43.0wins+0.03per pick31cpaid+8.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa79a…94d9backed B863c2,222$1,403 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,402.731435.7%5 W · 9 L-1.8wins-0.13per pick49cpaid-38.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x14a0…22bbbacked B864c2,200$1,408 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,408.261,39365.9%918 W · 475 L+26.8wins+0.02per pick64cpaid+1.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x081e…f76ebacked B858c2,097$1,219 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,219.0481751.7%422 W · 395 L-6.0wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa42c…b22ebacked B858c2,017$1,170 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,169.763158.1%18 W · 13 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick59cpaid-9.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4fb1…0787backed B859c2,000$1,170 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,170757.1%4 W · 3 L+0.4wins+0.06per pick51cpaid-2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed B851c1,970$1,005 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,004.7846749.7%232 W · 235 L-12.4wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-6.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed B828c1,957$557 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$556.6187047.9%417 W · 453 L+15.6wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-14%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x48b8…4b69backed B858c1,950$1,131 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,130.7720249%99 W · 103 L+3.7wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa2e9…a86ebacked 3DMAX67c1,948$1,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$648.2119355.4%107 W · 86 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc949…fa93backed B850c1,940$970 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9707940.5%32 W · 47 L-7.3wins-0.09per pick50cpaid-16.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x7a78…add7backed B865c1,902$1,238 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,238.31,96946.7%919 W · 1,050 L+12.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-14.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed B853c1,895$998 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$997.594,22049.2%2,078 W · 2,142 L+61.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x3b89…1069backed B877c1,846$1,420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,420.28752.9%46 W · 41 L-1.7wins-0.02per pick55cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf393…9b65backed B855c1,814$1,004 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00410946.8%51 W · 58 L+3.9wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+4.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1b9a…a06bbacked B85c1,779$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$93.7769624%167 W · 529 L+2.2wins0.00per pick24cpaid-7.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1568…c958backed B861c1,753$1,070 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,069.527950.2%140 W · 139 L-5.8wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-6.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed 3DMAX36c1,696$607 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,088.865,81037.8%2,196 W · 3,614 L+78.9wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xa557…6e77backed 3DMAX39c1,680$652 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,028.3925248.8%123 W · 129 L+6.3wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+0.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc463…9a2fbacked B863c1,651$1,040 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,040.349047.8%43 W · 47 L-0.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid+8.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd809…6542backed B858c1,650$957 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$956.8311546.1%53 W · 62 L-3.6wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-13.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2e6c…e09cbacked B858c1,650$957 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$956.839058.9%53 W · 37 L+6.5wins+0.07per pick52cpaid+12.5%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xc371…1e28backed B821c1,613$339 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$339.3846843.4%203 W · 265 L-11.7wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-21.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x43ff…a491backed B877c1,578$1,215 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,2159554.7%52 W · 43 L+2.5wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+4.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xed4d…6a0bbacked 3DMAX37c1,553$577 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$975.482152.4%11 W · 10 L+1.5wins+0.07per pick45cpaid+19.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8c3b…e573backed 3DMAX74c1,500$1,110 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3903447.1%16 W · 18 L-2.3wins-0.07per pick54cpaid-23.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5453…a834backed B815c1,494$228 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$228.2631654.7%173 W · 143 L+9.2wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+12.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2373…a1f3backed B858c1,482$859 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$859.356854.4%37 W · 31 L+2.6wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+4.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.