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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: MOUZ vs TheMongolz - Map 1 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
TheMongolzof MOUZ, TheMongolz
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$332,573

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $332,573 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 337 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x2005…75eabacked TheMongolz50c17,431$8,680 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,751.273,25750.3%1,638 W · 1,619 L+98.0wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-6.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x567e…e8fbbacked MOUZ41c11,998$4,942 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,942.1621939.7%87 W · 132 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-23.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdbb3…76a9backed MOUZ45c9,804$4,402 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,401.9639248.7%191 W · 201 L+5.8wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-12.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xb726…0664backed TheMongolz41c5,787$2,398 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,389.4512649.2%62 W · 64 L-3.5wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-7.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xd20f…2f35backed MOUZ39c5,145$2,020 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,0208750.6%44 W · 43 L-4.4wins-0.05per pick56cpaid-18.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5faf…1183backed TheMongolz52c5,000$2,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,399.9910935.8%39 W · 70 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-8.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x67bb…b6efbacked MOUZ62c4,710$2,920 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,920.4776058%441 W · 319 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick58cpaid-1.4%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked MOUZ58c4,702$2,749 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,748.552,32655.7%1,296 W · 1,030 L+44.8wins+0.02per pick54cpaid-9.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed MOUZ41c4,641$1,901 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,9011,03361.6%636 W · 397 L+87.2wins+0.08per pick53cpaid+11.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed MOUZ44c4,501$1,974 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,974.388746.7%414 W · 473 L+8.9wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-15.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed TheMongolz48c4,254$2,029 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,225.036,48042.9%2,782 W · 3,698 L-79.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked MOUZ42c3,320$1,385 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,384.551,61145.4%731 W · 880 L+30.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-14.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf94f…9adabacked TheMongolz67c3,240$2,171 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,069.35267.3%35 W · 17 L+3.6wins+0.07per pick60cpaid+5.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed MOUZ59c3,041$1,782 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,781.535,28731.3%1,657 W · 3,630 L-383.3wins-0.07per pick39cpaid-37.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed TheMongolz46c2,874$1,332 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,542.2737646.3%174 W · 202 L-17.2wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-9.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xdc5a…bf71backed TheMongolz47c2,546$1,184 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,361.5780744.6%360 W · 447 L-5.2wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-15.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf0b9…0eddbacked TheMongolz37c2,415$888 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,527.394645.7%21 W · 25 L-0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid+15.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa27c…ab67backed MOUZ69c2,384$1,646 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,645.6645058.9%265 W · 185 L-5.7wins-0.01per pick60cpaid-3.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7a78…add7backed TheMongolz49c2,271$1,109 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,162.171,96946.7%919 W · 1,050 L+12.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-14.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x844e…0a61backed MOUZ43c2,037$884 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$884.17560%3 W · 2 L-0.3wins-0.07per pick67cpaid-15.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7193…ae51backed MOUZ50c2,000$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00029858.4%174 W · 124 L+2.3wins+0.01per pick58cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6b1e…65c1backed TheMongolz31c1,764$547 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,217.168938.2%34 W · 55 L-1.7wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-10.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x7a1e…8ecabacked TheMongolz49c1,748$863 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$885.42055%11 W · 9 L+2.2wins+0.11per pick44cpaid+61.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x6ab4…96a5backed TheMongolz38c1,731$658 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,072.978050%40 W · 40 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+10.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed TheMongolz40c1,643$665 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$977.694,22849.2%2,080 W · 2,148 L+59.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xcdfb…980cbacked TheMongolz46c1,630$750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$880.4332548.3%157 W · 168 L-8.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-6.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8d85…c436backed MOUZ28c1,570$442 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$441.5821956.2%123 W · 96 L+14.7wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+10%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x8725…eb10backed TheMongolz38c1,544$591 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$953.185446.4%396 W · 458 L+0.3wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5d9b…a5ebbacked MOUZ43c1,520$651 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6514946.9%23 W · 26 L+3.7wins+0.08per pick39cpaid+3.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x4340…1aecbacked TheMongolz54c1,511$819 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$691.993852.6%20 W · 18 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick55cpaid-5.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2529…548abacked TheMongolz41c1,500$609 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$890.963,22551.2%1,651 W · 1,574 L+88.0wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-6.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa9ca…6a8bbacked TheMongolz33c1,450$476 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$973.575245.5%342 W · 410 L-21.8wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-6.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x11e5…337ebacked MOUZ63c1,414$891 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$890.7622550.7%114 W · 111 L+0.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x52ec…a6f3backed MOUZ46c1,410$648 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$648.4746949.7%233 W · 236 L-14.1wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-8.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x69bf…0c5dbacked MOUZ61c1,401$856 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$85617148%82 W · 89 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-2.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x54ea…f74abacked MOUZ63c1,370$870 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87025344.3%112 W · 141 L-7.2wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-10.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked MOUZ49c1,343$663 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$662.523,09648.5%1,501 W · 1,595 L+135.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xb7b3…9573backed MOUZ60c1,330$796 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$795.7746345.6%211 W · 252 L-6.1wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x80ef…3973backed MOUZ1c1,300$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16200%0 W · 20 L-0.2wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2302…d6d2backed MOUZ18c1,211$221 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$221.324544.5%109 W · 136 L-8.2wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-16.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa5cf…8cc5backed MOUZ26c1,200$316 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31624139%94 W · 147 L-7.4wins-0.03per pick42cpaid+3.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked MOUZ42c1,200$510 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$509.757,92550.4%3,997 W · 3,928 L+179.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x6978…9897backed MOUZ42c1,191$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50012449.2%61 W · 63 L-7.1wins-0.06per pick55cpaid-9.2%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x3f97…4059backed MOUZ61c1,187$727 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$726.8246149.9%230 W · 231 L-1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3860…bda6backed MOUZ14c1,071$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$150425%1 W · 3 L-0.2wins-0.05per pick30cpaid-56.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x338c…1b33backed MOUZ52c1,026$531 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53116947.9%81 W · 88 L-6.7wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-11.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xf988…d63bbacked TheMongolz38c1,000$378 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$621.8335850.8%182 W · 176 L+11.1wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-1.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x23ec…759fbacked MOUZ2c1,000$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22290%0 W · 29 L-0.6wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0656…4d9bbacked MOUZ1c1,000$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$131943.6%7 W · 187 L-0.1wins0.00per pick4cpaid-48.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2ea1…f17ebacked MOUZ2c1,000$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22340%0 W · 34 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick2cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf743…1811backed MOUZ37c956.91$356 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$356.0829831.5%94 W · 204 L-16.1wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-29.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x6c64…89babacked MOUZ77c940.05$721 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$720.534542.3%146 W · 199 L-8.0wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-5.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0fbc…62a3backed MOUZ69c900$620 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$62024457%139 W · 105 L-4.4wins-0.02per pick59cpaid-7.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9553…cfc7backed TheMongolz53c875.82$466 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$410.248458.3%49 W · 35 L-2.4wins-0.03per pick61cpaid-2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfe8a…23cebacked TheMongolz47c856.11$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$456.242,21447.5%1,052 W · 1,162 L-5.6wins0.00per pick48cpaid-14.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec0e…672cbacked MOUZ48c854.75$406 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$406.1347738.4%183 W · 294 L-26.7wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-31.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked MOUZ44c832.14$364 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$363.621,05449%516 W · 538 L+38.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-10.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8d03…100ebacked MOUZ70c818.39$573 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$572.7941069.3%284 W · 126 L+14.3wins+0.03per pick66cpaid+4.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0257…22b2backed MOUZ67c800$536 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53645455.1%250 W · 204 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick54cpaid-2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed TheMongolz37c800$296 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50446749.7%232 W · 235 L-12.4wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-6.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8f45…d3b8backed MOUZ63c788.53$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5004261.9%26 W · 16 L+5.4wins+0.13per pick49cpaid+31.8%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x69ac…03e9backed MOUZ19c782.59$149 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$148.754122%9 W · 32 L-5.3wins-0.13per pick35cpaid-50.8%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x6c2d…dd1ebacked TheMongolz69c760.38$525 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$235.7639970.7%282 W · 117 L+38.7wins+0.10per pick61cpaid+14.6%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x61fe…0956backed TheMongolz64c745.89$475 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.7710663.2%67 W · 39 L+10.5wins+0.10per pick53cpaid+7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked MOUZ41c730.03$298 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$298.121,25646.7%587 W · 669 L+17.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-16%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd4f9…f4adbacked MOUZ70c714.2$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50019047.9%91 W · 99 L-6.9wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-5.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1c93…33d5backed MOUZ56c701$392 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$391.5648437.6%182 W · 302 L+13.7wins+0.03per pick35cpaid+42%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa557…5e8abacked MOUZ2c700$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$151973.6%7 W · 190 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick4cpaid-91.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x324c…93d9backed MOUZ2c700$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$112150.9%2 W · 213 L-1.1wins0.00per pick1cpaid-31.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xedd1…45a9backed MOUZ2c700$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$154010%4 W · 36 L-6.0wins-0.15per pick25cpaid-79.2%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x1f4f…46c2backed MOUZ48c700$336 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33639851.3%204 W · 194 L-2.3wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-4.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb3c7…bf04backed MOUZ15c700$105 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1053540%14 W · 21 L-2.3wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-20.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked TheMongolz41c676$278 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$398.021,04044%458 W · 582 L-22.2wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-22.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6df5…6430backed TheMongolz25c649.99$160 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$489.861,27821.9%280 W · 998 L-24.3wins-0.02per pick24cpaid-16.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd35e…a1e8backed TheMongolz39c639.49$252 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$387.674367.4%29 W · 14 L+4.5wins+0.10per pick57cpaid+19.1%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xef66…f839backed MOUZ24c628.63$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15013036.9%48 W · 82 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-15.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8a92…6941backed TheMongolz74c621.32$461 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$160.3111547%54 W · 61 L+9.9wins+0.09per pick38cpaid+15.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x78bf…3538backed TheMongolz32c615.27$197 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$418.38425%1 W · 3 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick27cpaid-21.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6dc0…699abacked MOUZ20c600$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1201,18122.5%266 W · 915 L+3.6wins0.00per pick22cpaid-15%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x368d…d853backed MOUZ45c599.99$270 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27078348.4%379 W · 404 L+17.9wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+6.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xda32…04a1backed TheMongolz51c599.98$306 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$293.9931444.9%141 W · 173 L+9.0wins+0.03per pick42cpaid-0.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2560…0b02backed TheMongolz39c599$234 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$365.3922448.7%109 W · 115 L-3.5wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-9.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x24f1…537cbacked TheMongolz48c592.48$284 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$308.2514555.2%80 W · 65 L-4.9wins-0.03per pick59cpaid-6.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbe5a…13f5backed TheMongolz46c584.51$271 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$313.519054.4%49 W · 41 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb0b4…834ebacked MOUZ70c574.28$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4009561.1%58 W · 37 L-3.1wins-0.03per pick64cpaid-7.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbfbf…8c7bbacked MOUZ46c572.49$265 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$264.98714.3%1 W · 6 L-1.1wins-0.15per pick30cpaid-49.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xaacf…5f84backed TheMongolz64c550$352 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19858961.3%361 W · 228 L-1.6wins0.00per pick62cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfb51…082dbacked MOUZ19c529.63$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.1812352.8%65 W · 58 L+3.7wins+0.03per pick50cpaid-1.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x22e5…9bedbacked TheMongolz38c526.32$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$326.32616.7%1 W · 5 L-0.6wins-0.10per pick26cpaid-56.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8eb3…2ab3backed TheMongolz58c521.08$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$221.082665.4%17 W · 9 L-1.2wins-0.05per pick70cpaid-6.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4687…8d42backed TheMongolz66c513.65$339 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$174.6452947.1%249 W · 280 L-14.5wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-8.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8f93…bffabacked MOUZ67c509.49$339 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$339.3178963.8%503 W · 286 L-2.5wins0.00per pick64cpaid-3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3d80…765abacked TheMongolz36c506$182 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$323.841100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.64per pick36cpaid+177.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x4162…31eebacked TheMongolz36c475$171 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3041100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.64per pick36cpaid+177.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed MOUZ48c471.1$225 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$224.824,03848.1%1,943 W · 2,095 L-23.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5818…44a3backed TheMongolz57c471$270 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$201.266248.4%30 W · 32 L+0.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid-0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xaea0…0decbacked MOUZ44c463$204 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$204.0848948.7%238 W · 251 L-0.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid-12.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc4de…0da4backed TheMongolz66c449.12$296 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$152.733960.8%206 W · 133 L+6.2wins+0.02per pick59cpaid+3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed TheMongolz39c443.36$173 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.455,83037.8%2,203 W · 3,627 L+79.0wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4214…db99backed TheMongolz60c428.09$257 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$171.2411740.2%47 W · 70 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.