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UFC · resolved market

UFC Fight Night: Louie Sutherland vs. José Montanha (Heavyweight, Prelims)

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
José Montanhaof Louie Sutherland, José Montanha
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
UFCevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$95,849
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$102,352

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $95,849 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 121 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in UFC is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in UFC
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x6f3e…bcf8backed Louie Sutherland67c18,891$12,657 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,656.773452.9%18 W · 16 L-0.9wins-0.03per pick56cpaid-12%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x12af…ff78backed Louie Sutherland66c16,003$10,532 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,531.810542.9%45 W · 60 L-8.1wins-0.08per pick51cpaid-15.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xc5df…63cfbacked José Montanha36c13,572$4,851 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,721.05850%4 W · 4 L+0.4wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+12.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe524…d34fbacked José Montanha34c12,900$4,386 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,513.9911554.8%63 W · 52 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick54cpaid-0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x39d3…9ef0backed José Montanha33c12,146$3,982 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,163.7810035%35 W · 65 L-1.6wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-10.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa804…2a75backed Louie Sutherland65c9,072$5,855 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,855.225152.9%27 W · 24 L+0.9wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-10%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4488…e319backed José Montanha34c7,500$2,575 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,924.9411746.2%54 W · 63 L-3.6wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-3.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8239…d9a3backed José Montanha33c6,061$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,060.613857.9%22 W · 16 L+2.4wins+0.06per pick52cpaid+24.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x746e…68cabacked Louie Sutherland65c5,000$3,250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,2501833.3%6 W · 12 L-1.7wins-0.10per pick43cpaid-34.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x6dd6…f5f4backed José Montanha51c4,664$2,382 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,281.6853956.6%305 W · 234 L-2.1wins0.00per pick57cpaid-4.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5e37…6789backed José Montanha41c3,642$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,142.195100%5 W · 0 L+1.8wins+0.35per pick65cpaid+63%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x3dfb…abafbacked Louie Sutherland68c3,333$2,266 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,266.445044%22 W · 28 L-3.0wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-6.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x17b8…d5d1backed Louie Sutherland65c3,275$2,144 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,143.5612448.4%60 W · 64 L+2.7wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-5.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed Louie Sutherland39c2,497$976 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$975.9627448.2%132 W · 142 L+12.7wins+0.05per pick44cpaid+3.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x28ef…ff5ebacked Louie Sutherland1c2,000$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$111752.9%9 W · 8 L+1.0wins+0.06per pick47cpaid-4.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x733d…1ae7backed Louie Sutherland61c1,902$1,160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,159.8716745.5%76 W · 91 L-6.8wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-13%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Louie Sutherland64c1,833$1,171 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,170.6417050.6%86 W · 84 L+9.0wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+11.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x224a…a3d5backed José Montanha30c1,806$542 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,264.1320048.5%97 W · 103 L+2.0wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5e30…acbfbacked Louie Sutherland67c1,672$1,120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,120.2441754%225 W · 192 L+12.8wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x39fc…e2f2backed Louie Sutherland50c1,657$821 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$820.8314551%74 W · 71 L+6.1wins+0.04per pick47cpaid-5.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x43e0…8618backed Louie Sutherland44c1,504$669 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$668.528434.5%29 W · 55 L-3.8wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-12.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x61d4…3593backed José Montanha42c1,352$574 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$778.454447.7%21 W · 23 L+3.8wins+0.09per pick39cpaid+11.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xdd5e…9040backed Louie Sutherland66c1,305$855 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$855.268253.7%44 W · 38 L+0.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid-7.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb76b…d1f0backed José Montanha76c1,165$880 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$284.81060%6 W · 4 L+1.6wins+0.16per pick44cpaid+28.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9698…2504backed José Montanha34c1,143$389 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$754.287842.3%33 W · 45 L-4.6wins-0.06per pick48cpaid-11.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x92d8…a656backed Louie Sutherland65c1,050$685 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$684.755569.1%38 W · 17 L+2.1wins+0.04per pick65cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7a5d…54dbbacked Louie Sutherland28c1,000$275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27515933.3%53 W · 106 L-8.9wins-0.06per pick39cpaid-44.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x3f29…2814backed José Montanha34c988.26$336 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$652.25540%2 W · 3 L+0.2wins+0.03per pick37cpaid-4.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1b44…d8debacked Louie Sutherland49c897.99$440 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$440.0112449.2%61 W · 63 L+7.4wins+0.06per pick43cpaid+12.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x767a…8ac5backed José Montanha34c813.71$277 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$537.0515048.7%73 W · 77 L+4.6wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+4.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1025…7e11backed José Montanha66c800$530 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.1512845.3%58 W · 70 L+4.7wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+4.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x60ec…f7b0backed Louie Sutherland67c776.64$520 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$520.355655.4%31 W · 25 L+2.0wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+4.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xbb8e…08c1backed Louie Sutherland38c774$297 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$297.4512451.6%64 W · 60 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-16.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa844…83b8backed José Montanha53c771.93$411 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$360.924656.5%26 W · 20 L+4.2wins+0.09per pick47cpaid+15.3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x5fd2…afcebacked José Montanha48c718.1$345 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$372.661546.7%7 W · 8 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+17.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xaf51…8bfabacked José Montanha57c699.54$397 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$302.996147.5%29 W · 32 L+2.4wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-1.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x82be…4e52backed José Montanha33c696.97$230 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$466.97944.4%4 W · 5 L+0.9wins+0.09per pick35cpaid+17.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb797…e779backed José Montanha34c667.8$226 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4421973.7%14 W · 5 L+4.4wins+0.23per pick50cpaid+84.1%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x89c9…9534backed Louie Sutherland66c608$401 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$401.224356.8%138 W · 105 L+3.1wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfb73…1e52backed José Montanha33c606.06$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$406.069452.1%49 W · 45 L+2.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0aa8…ea63backed José Montanha35c600$210 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3902356.5%13 W · 10 L+1.8wins+0.08per pick49cpaid+18.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xc397…bb3bbacked José Montanha51c588.24$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$288.2412557.6%72 W · 53 L+11.9wins+0.10per pick48cpaid+27.3%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x7d93…fdefbacked Louie Sutherland44c581.8$254 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$254.095255.8%29 W · 23 L+3.9wins+0.08per pick48cpaid+23.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xefde…6505backed José Montanha38c558.05$211 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$346.588636%31 W · 55 L+1.3wins+0.02per pick34cpaid+9.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5b62…d87fbacked José Montanha34c531.33$181 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$350.688257.3%47 W · 35 L+2.6wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+1.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xd594…98c4backed José Montanha33c520$172 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$348.48851.1%45 W · 43 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1c0c…7c83backed Louie Sutherland66c500$330 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3307949.4%39 W · 40 L-4.6wins-0.06per pick55cpaid-14%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x08b5…77e9backed Louie Sutherland65c456.51$298 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$298.3410%0 W · 1 L-0.7wins-0.65per pick65cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4076…8e2abacked José Montanha35c430$151 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$279.5728.6%2 W · 5 L+0.3wins+0.04per pick25cpaid-15.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x56a6…e5aebacked Louie Sutherland64c382.22$245 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$244.6230%0 W · 3 L-1.3wins-0.42per pick42cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x8191…b591backed José Montanha36c372.22$134 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$238.225455.6%30 W · 24 L-1.0wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-1.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc092…0cd9backed Louie Sutherland62c357.9$223 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$222.7112134.7%42 W · 79 L-2.3wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-12.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa3c2…df3dbacked Louie Sutherland64c332$212 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$212.297152.1%37 W · 34 L+3.0wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+12.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd161…4cc1backed José Montanha34c299.64$102 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$197.7630964.7%200 W · 109 L+24.5wins+0.08per pick57cpaid+16.7%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xf334…bdefbacked José Montanha34c294.12$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$194.127159.2%42 W · 29 L+3.4wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+11.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xefbc…b344backed Louie Sutherland45c285.91$128 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$128.251457.1%8 W · 6 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-11.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x30f6…004fbacked Louie Sutherland42c260.78$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$109.61662.5%10 W · 6 L+3.8wins+0.24per pick39cpaid+68%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x9015…281fbacked José Montanha35c241.54$85 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$157862.5%5 W · 3 L+0.9wins+0.12per pick51cpaid+23.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x920a…29e0backed Louie Sutherland43c230.59$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1003060%18 W · 12 L+1.9wins+0.06per pick54cpaid-1.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xc2e5…b3a5backed Louie Sutherland28c227$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63.563644.4%16 W · 20 L-2.2wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-29.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xf6c0…722ebacked José Montanha33c226.19$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.557545.3%34 W · 41 L-2.5wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-3.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd738…eeeebacked José Montanha33c219.12$72 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$146.8113248.5%64 W · 68 L+7.2wins+0.05per pick43cpaid+16.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x7e59…7b8bbacked Louie Sutherland65c200$129 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$129.422348.4%108 W · 115 L+0.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-8.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7e3d…bf10backed Louie Sutherland65c200$130 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1304341.9%18 W · 25 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-13%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x538e…77f5backed Louie Sutherland67c200$134 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1349364.5%60 W · 33 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick64cpaid+1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4502…9eedbacked José Montanha46c183.57$85 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98.771957.9%11 W · 8 L+3.7wins+0.20per pick38cpaid+66.9%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x9a3f…914abacked José Montanha49c169.5$83 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$86.9713636%49 W · 87 L-13.8wins-0.10per pick46cpaid-33.9%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x04c7…c7a7backed José Montanha35c150$53 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$97.5366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.6wins+0.19per pick47cpaid+60.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x018e…5c3dbacked Louie Sutherland66c144.7$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$95.992871.4%20 W · 8 L+4.5wins+0.16per pick55cpaid+37.5%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xdecf…2957backed José Montanha35c139.53$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90.69666.7%4 W · 2 L+0.6wins+0.09per pick57cpaid+17.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5210…bd53backed José Montanha41c130.8$53 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$77.5120652.9%109 W · 97 L+6.4wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+3.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5e50…c665backed José Montanha38c130.3$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$81.433933.3%13 W · 26 L-2.8wins-0.07per pick41cpaid-8.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5530…d38dbacked Louie Sutherland68c129.06$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87.7624862.5%155 W · 93 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa95a…6b78backed José Montanha39c124.95$49 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$76.221650%8 W · 8 L+0.8wins+0.05per pick45cpaid-1.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x066f…b576backed José Montanha36c122.25$44 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.2424256.2%136 W · 106 L+20.8wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+15.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xd3aa…01a0backed José Montanha33c121.21$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$81.213842.1%16 W · 22 L+2.9wins+0.08per pick35cpaid+25.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xe650…0944backed José Montanha34c119.08$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.597650%38 W · 38 L+4.1wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+15.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Louie Sutherland37c107$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.2933132%106 W · 225 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick31cpaid-14.1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x610b…36a3backed José Montanha33c106.06$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.064568.9%31 W · 14 L+7.4wins+0.16per pick52cpaid+22.1%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0x80ed…ce26backed José Montanha39c105$41 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.123961.5%147 W · 92 L+16.0wins+0.07per pick55cpaid+11.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xe523…f087backed Louie Sutherland59c101.96$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6019152.9%101 W · 90 L+14.4wins+0.08per pick45cpaid+20.9%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xd1ae…8e54backed Louie Sutherland51c100.05$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.031050%5 W · 5 L+1.7wins+0.17per pick33cpaid+95.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xd20f…78e1backed Louie Sutherland52c96$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.4430%0 W · 3 L-1.2wins-0.39per pick39cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5317…9a3bbacked Louie Sutherland55c92.18$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.291428.6%4 W · 10 L-2.4wins-0.17per pick45cpaid-53.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x2d2c…00b5backed Louie Sutherland51c84.24$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43.21366.7%2 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.01per pick65cpaid-7.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa430…c6f9backed Louie Sutherland67c75.39$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.4712755.1%70 W · 57 L+4.4wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+7.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xebff…70e5backed Louie Sutherland34c70$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.6522438.4%86 W · 138 L-4.3wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-28.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6865…6033backed José Montanha35c68.8$24 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.72714.3%1 W · 6 L-1.1wins-0.16per pick30cpaid-59.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x3333…3c23backed José Montanha33c68.48$23 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45.8811735.9%42 W · 75 L-4.4wins-0.04per pick40cpaid-16.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1e69…d7fcbacked Louie Sutherland65c66.5$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43.23250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.03per pick53cpaid+25%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9083…d27bbacked José Montanha33c60.61$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40.6115139.7%60 W · 91 L-3.6wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-13.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x011d…3d2fbacked Louie Sutherland50c60$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.759746.4%45 W · 52 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-6.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5173…c07cbacked José Montanha39c59$23 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35.995853.4%31 W · 27 L+5.5wins+0.09per pick44cpaid+33.3%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xf08e…1256backed José Montanha34c55$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.31643.8%7 W · 9 L-0.6wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-1.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x8056…b64dbacked Louie Sutherland68c54.41$37 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3726140.6%106 W · 155 L-9.8wins-0.04per pick44cpaid-10.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xd37a…2358backed José Montanha38c54.34$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33.8314344.1%63 W · 80 L-4.1wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-8.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x010d…d0e6backed Louie Sutherland51c52.63$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26.8410%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3865…fcbebacked José Montanha33c51.58$17 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$34.563351.5%17 W · 16 L-0.9wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd44c…28c5backed José Montanha36c50$18 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32666.7%4 W · 2 L+1.4wins+0.23per pick44cpaid+46%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x8f8c…e275backed Louie Sutherland64c46.58$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.817247.2%34 W · 38 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-11.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in UFC and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 2 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.