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Lol · resolved market

LoL: LYON vs Team Liquid - Game 1 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Team Liquidof LYON, Team Liquid
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$358,377
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$450,042

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $358,377 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 264 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x40ea…832fbacked Team Liquid50c40,018$20,006 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20,011.4420339.9%81 W · 122 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-4.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe405…c67ebacked LYON53c29,721$15,608 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15,608.4867760.4%409 W · 268 L+42.6wins+0.06per pick54cpaid+10.5%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x1341…0853backed Team Liquid47c25,999$12,219 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,779.431,82745.6%834 W · 993 L+26.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xcf60…a6f5backed Team Liquid49c20,000$9,889 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,110.5291854%496 W · 422 L-1.5wins0.00per pick54cpaid+1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc44f…d49fbacked LYON50c19,030$9,515 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,515.2257246%263 W · 309 L-9.6wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9770…0ff5backed Team Liquid47c14,785$6,885 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,899.4759450.2%298 W · 296 L+6.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked Team Liquid51c13,712$7,012 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,700.142,00458.2%1,166 W · 838 L+86.9wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+9.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x8c0b…7aa5backed LYON50c13,325$6,718 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,718.091,63040.1%654 W · 976 L+48.3wins+0.03per pick37cpaid-1.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6df6…8458backed LYON20c11,673$2,291 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,290.6135431.1%110 W · 244 L-5.4wins-0.02per pick33cpaid-14.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xf201…527ebacked Team Liquid47c7,033$3,319 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,713.211,29545.1%584 W · 711 L+49.7wins+0.04per pick41cpaid-10.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5038…6236backed LYON50c6,976$3,488 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,48811643.1%50 W · 66 L-0.4wins0.00per pick43cpaid+3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked LYON54c6,823$3,679 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,678.751,59842.4%677 W · 921 L-17.9wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-14.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7553…65cabacked Team Liquid48c5,750$2,785 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,964.9967250.9%342 W · 330 L+6.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x885c…c314backed LYON0c5,063$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1010%0 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick0cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7a0f…1305backed LYON53c4,442$2,352 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,351.851,46361.4%899 W · 564 L-19.5wins-0.01per pick63cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3186…e9cabacked Team Liquid60c4,334$2,595 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,738.921,53662.6%961 W · 575 L+157.8wins+0.10per pick52cpaid+8.1%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed LYON54c4,283$2,303 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,303.0385442.7%365 W · 489 L-14.3wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-15.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9cd1…285dbacked LYON49c4,000$1,970 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,9709750.5%49 W · 48 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+4.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd8f8…891cbacked LYON50c3,950$1,975 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,9752254.5%12 W · 10 L+0.7wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+13.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked LYON39c3,750$1,466 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,466.381,15842.6%493 W · 665 L-23.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-20.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked LYON53c3,558$1,868 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,868.4295041.6%395 W · 555 L-32.0wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-23.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x8fbb…9a17backed LYON51c3,333$1,689 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,688.6825143.4%109 W · 142 L-2.3wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-14.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed LYON28c3,319$939 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$939.022,18733.3%729 W · 1,458 L-71.9wins-0.03per pick37cpaid-21.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xd9bf…59e9backed Team Liquid47c3,315$1,574 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,741.32825%2 W · 6 L-0.4wins-0.05per pick30cpaid+357.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked LYON52c3,287$1,723 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,722.891,00342.5%426 W · 577 L-24.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-19.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x0e62…f6ffbacked Team Liquid41c3,000$1,221 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,778.979248.9%45 W · 47 L+4.6wins+0.05per pick44cpaid+3.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed LYON17c2,937$495 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$494.632,49739.9%996 W · 1,501 L-75.6wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-19.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x842a…7422backed Team Liquid72c2,920$2,103 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$816.7252848.9%258 W · 270 L-9.6wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd525…1815backed LYON55c2,764$1,511 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,511.4713632.4%44 W · 92 L-10.3wins-0.08per pick40cpaid-26.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xe504…600ebacked LYON55c2,692$1,480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,480.1917647.7%84 W · 92 L+4.1wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1065…6218backed LYON50c2,582$1,291 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,291.1154429.6%161 W · 383 L-35.2wins-0.06per pick36cpaid-18.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed LYON56c2,407$1,354 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,353.7876142%320 W · 441 L-23.5wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-22.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1365…c82abacked Team Liquid54c2,360$1,266 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,094.1298956.8%562 W · 427 L+24.7wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf5d0…d9e8backed LYON55c2,294$1,256 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,256.4985746.3%397 W · 460 L+17.4wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+3.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb1b8…9d1fbacked LYON2c2,239$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54.3645937%170 W · 289 L-2.8wins-0.01per pick38cpaid+13%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4283…fbd4backed LYON53c2,227$1,176 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,175.645041.1%185 W · 265 L-25.4wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-18.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x31a4…7afcbacked LYON52c2,150$1,118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,11887844.2%388 W · 490 L+6.5wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6918…782bbacked Team Liquid47c2,146$1,009 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,137.621,49054.6%813 W · 677 L+36.2wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+5.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc387…5a97backed LYON54c2,116$1,147 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,146.8860354.7%330 W · 273 L-2.2wins0.00per pick55cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8d85…f4e0backed Team Liquid41c2,078$846 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,231.7564247.4%304 W · 338 L+24.2wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-1.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked LYON47c2,029$948 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$948.422,40642.6%1,026 W · 1,380 L+21.5wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-5.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2518…254fbacked LYON62c2,000$1,249 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,248.6453255.1%293 W · 239 L+23.7wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+4.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x91e7…bbf0backed LYON50c1,926$963 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$963812.5%1 W · 7 L-3.0wins-0.38per pick50cpaid-80.1%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x53a5…55dfbacked Team Liquid62c1,815$1,127 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$688.0643358.2%252 W · 181 L+7.7wins+0.02per pick56cpaid-0.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4967…4292backed LYON14c1,705$232 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$232.3930231.1%94 W · 208 L+2.3wins+0.01per pick30cpaid-12.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6373…a0b7backed Team Liquid37c1,651$611 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,040.49621.9%21 W · 75 L-5.5wins-0.06per pick28cpaid-37.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x0d2d…7ff5backed LYON47c1,615$759 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$758.591,81839.9%726 W · 1,092 L-59.5wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-20.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x000e…f7e9backed LYON7c1,549$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$108.4289943.4%390 W · 509 L+22.3wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed Team Liquid47c1,500$705 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$794.961,43557.4%824 W · 611 L+36.0wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xbbf3…aa3abacked Team Liquid62c1,495$920 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$575.3121753.9%117 W · 100 L-0.9wins0.00per pick54cpaid-3.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x682d…4cd6backed LYON6c1,418$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.3945618.9%86 W · 370 L-4.8wins-0.01per pick20cpaid-45.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x40ce…bf90backed Team Liquid50c1,300$650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6501,15156%644 W · 507 L+25.4wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+8.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed LYON50c1,298$649 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6491,25838.6%485 W · 773 L-61.8wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-20.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xa8e0…0e69backed LYON39c1,288$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5005244.2%23 W · 29 L-3.8wins-0.07per pick52cpaid+2.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xe1e7…8a71backed LYON13c1,270$160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$159.5647933.6%161 W · 318 L-10.7wins-0.02per pick36cpaid-7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x75bf…4ba8backed Team Liquid36c1,250$450 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$800.084540%18 W · 27 L-1.4wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-13.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xea58…930fbacked Team Liquid46c1,200$552 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6481,21644.4%540 W · 676 L-12.7wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-5.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa9f5…937fbacked LYON34c1,183$403 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$402.762,67235.7%954 W · 1,718 L-153.3wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-32.3%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x21ed…1ea1backed LYON50c1,154$577 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5775639.3%22 W · 34 L-2.8wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-17.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x0d87…e214backed Team Liquid61c1,144$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$444.2626661.7%164 W · 102 L+22.0wins+0.08per pick53cpaid+19.6%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0xfce6…ba8bbacked LYON53c1,126$594 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$594.3211059.1%65 W · 45 L+1.8wins+0.02per pick57cpaid+8.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe235…aba2backed LYON47c1,103$521 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$520.9357947.3%274 W · 305 L-14.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-8.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x37ca…f644backed LYON55c1,088$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60024658.5%144 W · 102 L+6.4wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+8.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb20b…a3e1backed Team Liquid57c1,065$607 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$457.956051.7%31 W · 29 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-5.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe922…39b3backed Team Liquid48c1,057$505 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$552.241,30555.9%729 W · 576 L+44.4wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+7.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x54a6…7401backed LYON51c1,055$533 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$533.0552750.5%266 W · 261 L+13.5wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf1ad…6979backed Team Liquid49c1,025$504 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$520.5786144.1%380 W · 481 L-10.6wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-4.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xff34…694bbacked LYON53c1,021$543 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$543.261,06154.7%580 W · 481 L+13.3wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-4.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x04bd…39a0backed Team Liquid49c1,000$490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5101,22945.1%554 W · 675 L+48.5wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+5.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xda16…ac2bbacked LYON51c999.99$510 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51015147%71 W · 80 L+3.5wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5b62…d87fbacked LYON50c992.71$494 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$494.148847.3%231 W · 257 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+4.3%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xdbaf…f5d1backed LYON46c984.99$448 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$448.1747838.7%185 W · 293 L+11.3wins+0.02per pick36cpaid+2.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7771…009fbacked LYON42c899.98$376 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$375.841,00748.2%485 W · 522 L+7.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xeecd…4fefbacked Team Liquid52c887.78$462 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$426.1336460.2%219 W · 145 L+9.6wins+0.03per pick58cpaid+9.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2ff7…bf32backed Team Liquid58c875.86$504 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$371.6566358.1%385 W · 278 L+5.0wins+0.01per pick57cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa623…a4febacked LYON49c795$390 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$389.5560347.9%289 W · 314 L+7.1wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+11%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9a3b…b968backed Team Liquid62c774.35$477 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$297.3541060.5%248 W · 162 L-12.7wins-0.03per pick64cpaid-6.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xcef2…4e03backed Team Liquid70c756.34$528 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$227.962466.7%16 W · 8 L+1.2wins+0.05per pick62cpaid+7.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x009b…26dabacked LYON50c750$377 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$376.511833.1%39 W · 79 L-2.1wins-0.02per pick35cpaid-8.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xdbe8…1141backed LYON50c743.4$372 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$371.74734%16 W · 31 L-5.9wins-0.13per pick47cpaid-30.6%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed LYON34c730$247 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$247.183,11933.7%1,052 W · 2,067 L-151.2wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-34.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xb57d…07bfbacked LYON44c705.41$312 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$311.6627244.1%120 W · 152 L+12.0wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+6.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked LYON45c691.28$312 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$311.751,89937.1%705 W · 1,194 L-113.9wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-32.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x2469…4812backed LYON9c672.52$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61.32832.1%9 W · 19 L+0.8wins+0.03per pick29cpaid-22.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x13ee…01aebacked LYON50c658$329 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32918335.5%65 W · 118 L-23.7wins-0.13per pick48cpaid-26.7%equal weight37-0.11 edge/pick
0x772b…5facbacked LYON49c640$310 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$310.485554.7%468 W · 387 L+33.2wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+7.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5a3c…38d3backed LYON50c634$317 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31756432.1%181 W · 383 L-2.3wins0.00per pick32cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfc8f…3782backed LYON53c608.75$321 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$320.771,31037.3%489 W · 821 L-86.3wins-0.07per pick44cpaid-26.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x5e69…7f76backed Team Liquid46c600$276 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32428448.6%138 W · 146 L-12.3wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-13.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xa469…0782backed LYON51c599.97$307 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$306.991,32253.2%703 W · 619 L+36.2wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0a75…fc33backed LYON11c545.45$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6020151.2%103 W · 98 L+11.8wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+5.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xcdca…66ebbacked Team Liquid35c537.64$190 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$347.6496057.4%551 W · 409 L+22.3wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+4.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x4c9d…0bffbacked LYON6c532.13$32 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31.9322532.4%73 W · 152 L+4.0wins+0.02per pick31cpaid+8.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x82bf…de71backed LYON52c517.16$269 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$268.9275342.5%320 W · 433 L-14.0wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-11.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xce08…510bbacked Team Liquid49c507.76$249 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$258.961,21254.5%660 W · 552 L+52.0wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+9.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed LYON50c500$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2503,58440.1%1,437 W · 2,147 L+31.1wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe732…898fbacked LYON8c500$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4015149%74 W · 77 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8705…edbabacked Team Liquid45c500$225 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27542941.5%178 W · 251 L-24.0wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-20%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd3e7…bf64backed Team Liquid33c499.99$165 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3351,14945.2%519 W · 630 L+12.5wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6fb2…bd2dbacked Team Liquid55c468.16$259 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20938655.2%213 W · 173 L+1.5wins0.00per pick55cpaid+2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 13 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.