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NBA · resolved market

Hornets vs. Bucks

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Bucksof Hornets, Bucks
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,470,517
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,528,957

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,470,517 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 1,515 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xee3b…8dcfbacked Hornets25c312,296$79,414 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$79,413.5520%0 W · 2 L-0.6wins-0.29per pick29cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3151…0977backed Bucks75c257,878$192,371 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$65,507.5519249.5%95 W · 97 L+0.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-13.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Hornets23c60,000$13,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,80038248.7%186 W · 196 L+13.9wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+0.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4991…5ecdbacked Hornets25c50,895$12,495 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,495.32626.9%7 W · 19 L-3.6wins-0.14per pick41cpaid-30.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x43d4…13a2backed Bucks50c50,050$25,026 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25,024.512740.2%51 W · 76 L-2.4wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1433…56a0backed Hornets23c42,335$9,737 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,736.9617554.9%96 W · 79 L+8.8wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+9.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x1e3a…4033backed Bucks78c25,792$20,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,791.5134062.1%211 W · 129 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4335…fc2fbacked Bucks77c23,393$18,013 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,380.4717354.3%94 W · 79 L+3.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9f13…e0fdbacked Hornets23c23,346$5,370 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,369.6472450.7%367 W · 357 L+13.1wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd6ce…0772backed Bucks77c21,948$16,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,048.0411741.9%49 W · 68 L-2.8wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-11%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa925…e1c8backed Bucks55c21,844$12,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,844.078744.8%39 W · 48 L-5.3wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-21.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x8b71…8044backed Hornets24c21,800$5,223 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,223.028939.3%35 W · 54 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+2.6%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x057a…3bacbacked Hornets40c21,157$8,563 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,563.0326038.1%99 W · 161 L-9.3wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-24%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Bucks72c17,848$12,915 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,932.975,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Hornets38c15,883$6,010 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,009.734,87848%2,341 W · 2,537 L+61.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x781c…db68backed Bucks75c15,730$11,761 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,969.41,38439.4%545 W · 839 L+4.8wins0.00per pick39cpaid-21.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdb6a…f116backed Bucks77c15,524$12,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,524.252263.6%14 W · 8 L+3.3wins+0.15per pick49cpaid+14.6%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xee00…cea1backed Hornets50c14,772$7,381 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,381.1670147.8%335 W · 366 L+15.4wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-8.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x37e4…c991backed Bucks75c13,584$10,188 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,395.8924650%123 W · 123 L-3.7wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-5.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfefb…4b5dbacked Bucks56c12,920$7,218 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,701.6481529.4%240 W · 575 L-37.0wins-0.05per pick34cpaid-43%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xb744…5210backed Hornets22c10,420$2,292 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,292.3115443.5%67 W · 87 L+0.4wins0.00per pick43cpaid+1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Hornets49c10,022$4,950 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,949.693,99548.9%1,952 W · 2,043 L+101.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x74d3…0332backed Hornets23c10,000$2,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,30034645.4%157 W · 189 L+8.3wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9792…0812backed Hornets25c10,000$2,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,500683.3%5 W · 1 L+1.0wins+0.17per pick66cpaid+11.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xcd6f…e170backed Bucks77c10,000$7,700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,299.991100%1 W · 0 L+0.2wins+0.23per pick77cpaid+29.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe686…13cbbacked Hornets23c10,000$2,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,299.972937.9%11 W · 18 L-1.7wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-25.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Bucks77c9,370$7,195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,174.42,09147.8%1,000 W · 1,091 L-56.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe4b1…a75ebacked Hornets32c9,311$3,002 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,002.236435.9%23 W · 41 L+2.8wins+0.04per pick32cpaid+1.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8c1f…2289backed Hornets23c9,000$2,070 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,070540%2 W · 3 L+0.2wins+0.05per pick35cpaid-22.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x161e…6ef0backed Hornets29c8,655$2,540 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,540.085664.3%36 W · 20 L+4.2wins+0.08per pick57cpaid+3.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Bucks76c8,510$6,477 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,033.449,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9e2f…ec47backed Hornets22c8,000$1,760 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,759.9874748.5%362 W · 385 L+8.6wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+2.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x41b7…f6babacked Hornets51c7,432$3,767 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,767.4480146.4%372 W · 429 L-1.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc5aa…a24bbacked Hornets25c6,981$1,745 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,745.16475%3 W · 1 L+0.4wins+0.11per pick64cpaid-2.9%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x72c8…f18dbacked Hornets25c6,981$1,745 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,745.16475%3 W · 1 L+0.6wins+0.14per pick61cpaid+2.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb786…b18dbacked Hornets36c6,853$2,470 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,469.781,31650.5%664 W · 652 L+42.4wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-0.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Bucks66c6,228$4,113 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,114.851,00334.7%348 W · 655 L-44.7wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-35.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Bucks63c6,121$3,843 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,277.722,63036.7%966 W · 1,664 L-119.1wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-25.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xd161…4cc1backed Bucks73c6,039$4,380 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,658.5478445.8%359 W · 425 L+5.0wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5b8e…5c3cbacked Hornets42c5,932$2,516 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,516.1544459.7%265 W · 179 L+12.4wins+0.03per pick57cpaid+7.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4c03…0cc1backed Hornets1c5,577$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55.771,60211.8%189 W · 1,413 L-4.8wins0.00per pick12cpaid-6.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdefe…bdb8backed Hornets23c5,072$1,151 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,150.774725.5%12 W · 35 L-3.5wins-0.07per pick33cpaid-32.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x6bde…a9a7backed Bucks77c5,000$3,850 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,1501100%1 W · 0 L+0.2wins+0.23per pick77cpaid+29.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd4b1…4fdbbacked Hornets23c5,000$1,150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,150250%1 W · 1 L+0.3wins+0.17per pick33cpaid+16.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8198…e96ebacked Bucks76c4,979$3,784 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,194.9616446.3%76 W · 88 L-2.4wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-9.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdcc9…4534backed Bucks77c4,900$3,773 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,1278167.9%55 W · 26 L+3.1wins+0.04per pick64cpaid+6.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd6f4…0566backed Hornets35c4,890$1,700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,700.3285344%375 W · 478 L+1.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-15.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xedb1…819ebacked Bucks78c4,578$3,571 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,007.2115855.7%88 W · 70 L-9.8wins-0.06per pick62cpaid-10.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xa26b…b267backed Bucks77c4,500$3,465 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,035366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.6wins+0.20per pick46cpaid+20.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5646…3819backed Bucks77c4,367$3,363 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,004.4112938.8%50 W · 79 L-4.0wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-21.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2a7d…6b73backed Bucks77c4,091$3,150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$940.82366.7%2 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.07per pick74cpaid-11%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3807…b0abbacked Hornets23c4,082$939 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$938.86250%1 W · 1 L+0.2wins+0.11per pick39cpaid-7.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x90ba…63f3backed Hornets24c4,050$972 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9721,78228%499 W · 1,283 L+11.5wins+0.01per pick27cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x897d…bddebacked Hornets23c4,000$920 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92020%0 W · 2 L-0.8wins-0.40per pick40cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4667…cab0backed Bucks57c3,942$2,231 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,711.2313355.6%74 W · 59 L+8.7wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+15.3%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Bucks71c3,670$2,597 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,072.971,34129.9%401 W · 940 L-53.8wins-0.04per pick34cpaid-35.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x1252…dec2backed Hornets21c3,490$733 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$732.894052.5%21 W · 19 L-2.3wins-0.06per pick58cpaid-11%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xccea…a8ebbacked Bucks77c3,340$2,569 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$771.1223348.1%112 W · 121 L-1.5wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x204d…1d52backed Bucks77c3,200$2,464 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$736475%3 W · 1 L+0.3wins+0.07per pick68cpaid+5.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd589…27c2backed Hornets38c3,000$1,139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,139.517637.5%66 W · 110 L-16.3wins-0.09per pick47cpaid-20.3%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Bucks71c3,000$2,140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$86076850.3%386 W · 382 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x686b…7d1cbacked Hornets26c3,000$780 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7802520%5 W · 20 L-0.9wins-0.04per pick24cpaid-30.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5137…1556backed Hornets22c2,932$653 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$653.362,26543.4%982 W · 1,283 L-26.7wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-4.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf5be…46cebacked Hornets20c2,797$573 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$572.695911.9%7 W · 52 L-1.0wins-0.02per pick14cpaid-40.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc44d…935cbacked Bucks77c2,727$2,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$627.2717162.6%107 W · 64 L+10.1wins+0.06per pick57cpaid+20.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xb07b…6dfbbacked Bucks77c2,600$2,002 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$598450%2 W · 2 L+0.2wins+0.04per pick46cpaid-9.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4cb9…3783backed Hornets22c2,557$566 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$566.2464139%250 W · 391 L+2.6wins0.00per pick39cpaid+1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Bucks78c2,552$1,987 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$564.872,04548.4%990 W · 1,055 L-30.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x022b…b28cbacked Hornets23c2,491$562 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$561.9416730.5%51 W · 116 L-8.7wins-0.05per pick36cpaid-15.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x481b…74c1backed Bucks69c2,473$1,717 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$756.6848046%221 W · 259 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-9.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8586…8207backed Bucks77c2,400$1,848 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$552425%1 W · 3 L-0.9wins-0.22per pick47cpaid-67.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8858…986dbacked Hornets23c2,390$550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$549.710%0 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.23per pick23cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3ff2…49febacked Hornets32c2,282$733 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$733.4424634.6%85 W · 161 L-6.3wins-0.03per pick37cpaid-18.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2633…8816backed Hornets37c2,245$839 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$838.91757.1%4 W · 3 L+1.2wins+0.17per pick41cpaid+41.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xa83b…0e4abacked Hornets23c2,174$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5007050%35 W · 35 L-3.0wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-6.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2630…e941backed Hornets35c2,138$744 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$744.3842845.1%193 W · 235 L-15.7wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-8.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x8ddb…420bbacked Bucks79c2,000$1,585 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41529458.5%172 W · 122 L+6.0wins+0.02per pick56cpaid-0.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x41b8…180bbacked Bucks77c2,000$1,540 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$460366.7%2 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick66cpaid-5.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8005…abc0backed Hornets51c1,986$1,012 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,012.042740.7%11 W · 16 L+1.0wins+0.04per pick37cpaid-14.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x14c3…bfb9backed Hornets25c1,970$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5007256.9%41 W · 31 L+3.9wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+11.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9756…2f01backed Hornets28c1,919$541 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$540.68560%3 W · 2 L+0.7wins+0.14per pick46cpaid+3.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x961e…5e3bbacked Hornets23c1,900$437 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$436.9910%0 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.23per pick23cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xba26…23c9backed Bucks76c1,896$1,450 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$445.882,79650.3%1,405 W · 1,391 L+27.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb560…1ce6backed Hornets23c1,870$430 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$430.110%0 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.23per pick23cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdbb9…ed8dbacked Bucks76c1,807$1,370 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$436.642,73646.7%1,277 W · 1,459 L-67.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x1551…1ff8backed Bucks77c1,800$1,386 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$414250%1 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.17per pick67cpaid-35.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe3ff…805cbacked Hornets23c1,739$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40042827.3%117 W · 311 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick27cpaid-1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xef05…917cbacked Hornets22c1,700$379 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37910%0 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.22per pick22cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9dd9…08bdbacked Bucks72c1,666$1,192 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$473.741,11341.6%463 W · 650 L-10.0wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-17.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe403…3d50backed Bucks78c1,645$1,283 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$361.8754747.5%260 W · 287 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd78d…60bebacked Hornets37c1,621$597 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$596.6525016.8%42 W · 208 L-13.1wins-0.05per pick22cpaid-38.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x7b3c…ffc7backed Hornets29c1,592$460 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$459.633743.6%147 W · 190 L-1.2wins0.00per pick44cpaid-6.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4818…fde0backed Hornets35c1,531$535 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53551753.8%278 W · 239 L+11.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x62fb…4d60backed Bucks76c1,500$1,140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36035547.3%168 W · 187 L+6.1wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+4.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbc4f…2a37backed Bucks77c1,500$1,155 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$345250%1 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.17per pick67cpaid-35.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd04d…d0e5backed Bucks77c1,494$1,145 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$349.151,16449.6%577 W · 587 L+7.1wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd9a0…8b5bbacked Bucks77c1,476$1,142 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$333.4516550.3%83 W · 82 L-0.4wins0.00per pick51cpaid-5.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x84f6…2e01backed Bucks76c1,467$1,119 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$347.316749.1%82 W · 85 L-3.8wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-3.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5139…a8dbbacked Hornets22c1,459$318 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$317.7669852%363 W · 335 L+10.3wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x8262…f7d2backed Hornets23c1,450$333 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$333.510%0 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.23per pick23cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 8 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.