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Valorant · resolved market

Valorant: Team Vitality vs Natus Vincere - Map 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Team Vitalityof Team Vitality, Natus Vincere
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Valorantevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$112,152
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$134,323

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $112,152 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 103 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Valorant is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Valorant
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf070…ac55backed Natus Vincere36c23,595$8,494 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,494.0324145.2%109 W · 132 L-11.3wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-10%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x67bb…b6efbacked Team Vitality64c15,000$9,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,4004542.2%19 W · 26 L-3.5wins-0.08per pick50cpaid-18.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Natus Vincere19c7,608$1,476 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,476.2140945.7%187 W · 222 L-6.5wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-19.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Natus Vincere19c5,250$1,023 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,023.1465559.4%389 W · 266 L+50.5wins+0.08per pick52cpaid+6.7%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed Natus Vincere21c4,508$946 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$945.5953159.1%314 W · 217 L+41.6wins+0.08per pick51cpaid+7.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x568d…87d0backed Team Vitality63c4,060$2,558 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,502.1910842.6%46 W · 62 L0.0wins0.00per pick43cpaid-4.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Natus Vincere19c3,686$710 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$710.3868458.3%399 W · 285 L+56.5wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+6.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x664a…fc5fbacked Team Vitality65c2,723$1,762 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$961.150944.6%227 W · 282 L-9.8wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-18.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7441…4891backed Natus Vincere37c2,162$800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8001957.9%11 W · 8 L+1.8wins+0.09per pick49cpaid+6.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed Natus Vincere16c2,108$333 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$333.051,27632.1%409 W · 867 L-67.5wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-28.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7c3b…0cadbacked Team Vitality64c2,037$1,303 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$733.19450%2 W · 2 L-0.4wins-0.11per pick61cpaid-17.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x38ce…1581backed Natus Vincere47c2,000$937 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9371225%3 W · 9 L-2.4wins-0.20per pick45cpaid-53.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xd794…248bbacked Team Vitality69c1,603$1,114 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$489.221770.6%12 W · 5 L+2.2wins+0.13per pick58cpaid+22.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x60ec…f7b0backed Natus Vincere13c1,485$193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$193.0556551.2%289 W · 276 L+6.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked Natus Vincere21c1,476$308 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$308.1894361.2%577 W · 366 L+58.2wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xac9c…50d8backed Natus Vincere1c1,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1010217.6%18 W · 84 L+0.3wins0.00per pick17cpaid-20.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe872…819abacked Natus Vincere38c984.57$373 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3739340.9%38 W · 55 L-2.7wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-6.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2a8c…fd3dbacked Natus Vincere12c914.53$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11025336.4%92 W · 161 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdbca…9de9backed Team Vitality64c888$568 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$319.681100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.36per pick64cpaid+56.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xb6c6…933abacked Team Vitality64c781.25$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$281.2512856.3%72 W · 56 L-6.5wins-0.05per pick61cpaid-8.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x3fcc…9f91backed Natus Vincere28c749.97$212 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$212.4960022.7%136 W · 464 L-26.3wins-0.04per pick27cpaid-36.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5556…2759backed Team Vitality62c637.91$396 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$242.4163955.6%355 W · 284 L+1.9wins0.00per pick55cpaid+0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x260f…6980backed Natus Vincere10c620.56$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$605532.7%18 W · 37 L+1.2wins+0.02per pick31cpaid-20.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xae3f…defebacked Team Vitality64c612.5$392 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$220.53174.2%23 W · 8 L+4.9wins+0.16per pick58cpaid+34%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x54a1…f88bbacked Natus Vincere36c585.61$209 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$208.938936%32 W · 57 L-9.0wins-0.10per pick46cpaid-29.3%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x69db…283abacked Natus Vincere36c538.09$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$194.7736138.5%139 W · 222 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-6.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9e3e…f882backed Natus Vincere12c528.56$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65.7639646%182 W · 214 L-5.8wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-11.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x5d20…5c21backed Natus Vincere40c507.49$201 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201540%2 W · 3 L-0.9wins-0.17per pick57cpaid-34.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8705…edbabacked Natus Vincere14c487.98$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.5931153.1%165 W · 146 L+15.7wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+5.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x68e9…845cbacked Natus Vincere7c457.14$32 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$321631.3%5 W · 11 L-1.1wins-0.07per pick38cpaid-27.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked Natus Vincere37c446.39$163 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$163.041,30943.8%573 W · 736 L-44.5wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-19.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Team Vitality70c418.92$295 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$124.11,74646.2%806 W · 940 L-3.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-15.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3ae1…befbbacked Natus Vincere39c407.7$161 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$160.936048.3%29 W · 31 L-1.2wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-8.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x076d…8d4cbacked Natus Vincere53c403.29$216 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$215.7616347.2%77 W · 86 L-4.9wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-8.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xba5e…f9c4backed Team Vitality64c393.56$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$143.613053.3%16 W · 14 L+2.8wins+0.09per pick44cpaid+20.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xa9f5…937fbacked Natus Vincere20c376.01$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.431,60137.5%600 W · 1,001 L-75.0wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-26.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe76d…5a75backed Natus Vincere37c356.35$132 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$131.8553442.1%225 W · 309 L-15.0wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-6.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6fc5…d36ebacked Team Vitality69c351.51$241 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$110.511060%6 W · 4 L+0.9wins+0.09per pick51cpaid+30.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xffca…0b64backed Team Vitality60c351.28$211 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14021457%122 W · 92 L+6.6wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+2.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8d88…1e28backed Natus Vincere39c348$134 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$134.165939%23 W · 36 L-3.5wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-18.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf1ee…519cbacked Team Vitality64c332.13$211 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$121.071,24749.6%619 W · 628 L-2.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid-7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5929…4684backed Natus Vincere39c315.79$122 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122.261,49046.6%695 W · 795 L-16.1wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-12%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf1f2…8c8dbacked Team Vitality77c299.99$230 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$70.4738950.6%197 W · 192 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-8.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5011…94b4backed Natus Vincere13c280.41$37 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36.549737.1%36 W · 61 L-2.0wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-16%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1311…b275backed Natus Vincere8c251.43$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201921.1%4 W · 15 L-1.3wins-0.07per pick28cpaid-44.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbf33…0353backed Team Vitality64c221.05$141 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$79.5833346.5%155 W · 178 L-10.9wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-12.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xddb6…b9b3backed Team Vitality78c217.94$170 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47.6474642.8%319 W · 427 L-27.7wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-18.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x880b…c98bbacked Natus Vincere50c210.23$105 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$104.7326650.8%135 W · 131 L+7.0wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+4.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Natus Vincere38c208.14$79 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$78.921,35839%530 W · 828 L-57.9wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-17%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe8e0…7eecbacked Team Vitality75c204.1$154 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.557151%291 W · 280 L+16.2wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-4.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed Natus Vincere43c200$86 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8656357.9%326 W · 237 L+36.3wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+1.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x9ab3…3044backed Natus Vincere38c188.28$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.3846347.1%218 W · 245 L+0.2wins0.00per pick47cpaid+1.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8a80…11c5backed Team Vitality63c186$118 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$68.4433838.5%130 W · 208 L-21.7wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-25.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed Team Vitality78c184.2$144 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40.5293049.4%459 W · 471 L-0.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc8ad…be4ebacked Team Vitality64c179$115 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.4421055.2%116 W · 94 L+10.0wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+17.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x25d5…11fcbacked Team Vitality56c178.57$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.576050%30 W · 30 L-1.6wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x779c…699ebacked Natus Vincere25c175.99$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44.682240.9%9 W · 13 L-4.2wins-0.19per pick60cpaid-33.6%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x81a9…df08backed Natus Vincere41c172$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70.522343.5%10 W · 13 L-2.7wins-0.12per pick55cpaid-30%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xe844…3d42backed Team Vitality64c171.88$110 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61.884660.9%28 W · 18 L+1.8wins+0.04per pick57cpaid+6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x42b7…77dcbacked Team Vitality62c153.16$95 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58.215342.5%65 W · 88 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-12.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed Team Vitality67c145$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47.1881134.9%283 W · 528 L-60.9wins-0.08per pick42cpaid-34.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x775d…6bebbacked Team Vitality73c138$101 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.7470043.7%306 W · 394 L-13.7wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-15.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xec37…85bdbacked Team Vitality50c135$68 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$67.51250%6 W · 6 L+1.6wins+0.13per pick37cpaid+58.5%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf3ac…c9f4backed Natus Vincere12c132.75$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.937254.2%39 W · 33 L0.0wins0.00per pick54cpaid-10.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb2d8…89c2backed Team Vitality64c131.56$84 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47.362157.1%12 W · 9 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x64d4…f056backed Natus Vincere39c128.5$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.423836.1%86 W · 152 L-7.9wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-23.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed Natus Vincere42c127.1$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53.3851749.5%256 W · 261 L-2.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x71f5…4ccebacked Natus Vincere15c126$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.6122539.1%88 W · 137 L-10.6wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-25.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x56fb…3a1bbacked Natus Vincere14c110$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.85967.8%40 W · 19 L0.0wins0.00per pick68cpaid-2.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xedfa…fd66backed Team Vitality64c107.23$69 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$38.64843.8%21 W · 27 L-3.1wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-16%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x0e1b…ecafbacked Natus Vincere43c103.93$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44.6368949.5%341 W · 348 L+15.4wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-7.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8cd2…648cbacked Natus Vincere12c100$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$126251.6%32 W · 30 L+3.2wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+9.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked Team Vitality73c96.98$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.581,60845.2%727 W · 881 L-24.0wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-22.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xc7d0…1f8abacked Natus Vincere24c96$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.0155637.6%209 W · 347 L-11.5wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-23.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x021a…d3aebacked Team Vitality54c88.13$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40.698736.8%32 W · 55 L-4.7wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-15.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xcb6b…604ebacked Natus Vincere13c81.15$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.5533947.8%162 W · 177 L+10.8wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+11.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x50ab…70a2backed Natus Vincere37c81.08$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$309540%38 W · 57 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-0.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xccdc…dbe6backed Team Vitality64c78.13$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.1311042.7%47 W · 63 L-7.9wins-0.07per pick50cpaid-14%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x0a96…7a34backed Team Vitality50c65$33 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32.53447.1%16 W · 18 L+3.2wins+0.09per pick38cpaid+57.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xca1f…202abacked Team Vitality64c59.38$38 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.385749.1%28 W · 29 L-8.6wins-0.15per pick64cpaid-23.7%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0x2460…e144backed Team Vitality64c54.69$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.6928151.6%145 W · 136 L-10.4wins-0.04per pick55cpaid-9.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x431a…50d7backed Natus Vincere34c52.94$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1813456.7%76 W · 58 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf7fc…2d10backed Natus Vincere39c51.28$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20714.3%1 W · 6 L-2.0wins-0.29per pick43cpaid-70.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x3146…d153backed Natus Vincere40c50$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201266.7%8 W · 4 L+1.7wins+0.14per pick52cpaid+19.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x505f…645ebacked Natus Vincere42c50$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2138548.6%187 W · 198 L+8.0wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-2.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0ba9…a8d8backed Team Vitality56c48$27 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20.9416963.3%107 W · 62 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick64cpaid-1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd15e…eb73backed Team Vitality64c45$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.21100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.36per pick64cpaid+56.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xf84c…d035backed Team Vitality50c40$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$202100%2 W · 0 L+0.9wins+0.47per pick53cpaid+88.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3647…581bbacked Team Vitality64c39.06$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.063461.8%21 W · 13 L+1.9wins+0.06per pick56cpaid+5.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd619…c461backed Natus Vincere39c37.33$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.5626447.3%125 W · 139 L+9.6wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+10.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x38e8…e69cbacked Team Vitality61c37.33$23 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.565042%21 W · 29 L-6.1wins-0.12per pick54cpaid-24.9%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xb6a6…3024backed Team Vitality56c35.71$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15.711172.7%8 W · 3 L+2.5wins+0.23per pick50cpaid+45.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x0ab6…4880backed Team Vitality57c35.09$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15.0920547.8%98 W · 107 L+5.7wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+1.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7d03…b8a6backed Team Vitality64c31.25$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.2515255.9%85 W · 67 L-4.0wins-0.03per pick59cpaid-3.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x46b2…f252backed Team Vitality64c31.25$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.252458.3%14 W · 10 L+2.6wins+0.11per pick47cpaid+9.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x93dc…3728backed Team Vitality56c26.79$15 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.794548.9%22 W · 23 L-0.5wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x76f1…f655backed Team Vitality64c23.54$15 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8.4737545.6%171 W · 204 L-1.6wins0.00per pick46cpaid-9.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xade6…c465backed Team Vitality70c23.06$16 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6.9365347.3%309 W · 344 L-18.2wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-15.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbf99…9840backed Team Vitality61c22.82$14 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8.918049.4%89 W · 91 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick50cpaid+0.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc75b…3ea7backed Team Vitality64c21.66$14 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7.81145.5%5 W · 6 L-1.1wins-0.10per pick56cpaid-19.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Valorant and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.