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Wallet 0x54a1…f88b

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Summary

Qualified picks
298
Categories scored
6
Categories below 50
5

Best Category: Fifa International, grading 52 out of 100 (+0.02 per pick).

Best Category Fifa International at 52 out of 100; worst Valorant at 41.

What is a Tail Score?

A mark out of 100, per Category. 50 means no edge at all — this wallet did about what the prices it paid implied it would. Above 50 it beat those prices; below 50 it did worse than them.

The scale does not move. 100 is a wallet beating the prices it paid by 0.45 per pick and 0 is losing to them by the same, on every wallet, on every page, in every month. So a grade you screenshot today still means what it meant when you took it, and two wallets can be put side by side.

Nobody reaches either end. Across every wallet TailMyPicks has scored, the marks run from roughly 5 to 87 — which is what a fixed ruler costs, and what buys the sentence above.

It is not a win rate. A wallet can win four Picks in five and still grade below 50, if the market was already pricing those outcomes at 90c — it paid for the wins rather than finding them. The vs expected and Avg entry columns below are what separate the two.

The mark is deliberately pulled toward 50 when there is little evidence. Three lucky Picks do not produce a high grade; several hundred consistent ones do. So a modest grade on thousands of Picks means something a high grade on twelve does not.

Because it is shrunk this way, a Category grade is a conservative reading. The headline figure for a wallet is its best Category, so it always understates how badly the wallet does in its worst one — which is why the table below is per Category and not one blended number.

Record by Category

Ordered by how much this wallet actually traded in each Category, not by score — so the Categories it plays most appear first whether they went well or badly. Open any row to see the picks its numbers were computed from — all of them.

CategoryQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
Lollast resolved Aug 25, 2026, EDT17748%85 W · 92 L-3.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-2.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
Lol — the 177 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Lol, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
LoL: Kiwoom DRX Challengers vs BNK FearX Youth (BO5) - LCK Challengers League Play-Inbacked BNK FearX Youth · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)57c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 25, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
LoL: GIANTX vs G2 Esports (BO3) - LEC Regular Seasonbacked GIANTX · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)27c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 24, 2026, EDT+270.4%+$54.07
LoL: DN SOOPers Challengers vs Kiwoom DRX Challengers - Game 3 Winnerbacked DN SOOPers Challengers · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)7c$10Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 24, 2026, EDT-100%-$10
LoL: RED Canids vs Fluxo W7M - Game 1 Winnerbacked RED Canids · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)68c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 23, 2026, EDT+47.1%+$47.06
LoL: ThunderTalk Gaming vs LGD Gaming - Game 1 Winnerbacked LGD Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)60c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 23, 2026, EDT+66.7%+$13.33
LoL: SK Gaming vs Movistar KOI - Game 2 Winnerbacked SK Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)34c$15Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 22, 2026, EDT+194.1%+$29.12
LoL: Ninjas in Pyjamas vs Invictus Gaming - Game 1 Winnerbacked Ninjas in Pyjamas · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)35c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 22, 2026, EDT+182.6%+$36.53
LoL: Dplus KIA vs Gen.G - Game 1 Winnerbacked Dplus KIA · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)24c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
LoL: KT Rolster vs T1 (BO3) - LCK Round 3-4 Legend Groupbacked T1 · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)77c$43Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 21, 2026, EDT+29.8%+$12.81
LoL: KT Rolster vs T1 - Game 2 Winnerbacked KT Rolster · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)38c$1,473Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 21, 2026, EDT-100%-$1,473.08
LoL: ⁠Movistar KOI Fénix vs Team Heretics Academy - Game 3 Winnerbacked Team Heretics Academy · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)20c$10Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 20, 2026, EDT-100%-$10
LoL: ⁠Movistar KOI Fénix vs Team Heretics Academy - Game 2 Winnerbacked Team Heretics Academy · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)57c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 20, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
LoL: JD Gaming vs ThunderTalk Gaming (BO3) - LPL Group Ascendbacked ThunderTalk Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)39c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 20, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
LoL: Dplus KIA vs Hanwha Life Esports - Game 1 Winnerbacked Dplus KIA · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)65c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 20, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
LoL: HANJIN BRION Challengers vs Kiwoom DRX Challengers - Game 2 Winnerbacked HANJIN BRION Challengers · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)28c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 20, 2026, EDT+252%+$50.4
LoL: UCAM Esports Club vs Team Heretics Academy - Game 3 Winnerbacked UCAM Esports Club · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)39c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 19, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
LoL: Team WE vs EDward Gaming - Game 1 Winnerbacked Team WE · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)32c$10Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 19, 2026, EDT-100%-$10
LoL: Team WE vs EDward Gaming - Game 2 Winnerbacked Team WE · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)71c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 19, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
LoL: Anyone's Legend vs Top Esports (BO3) - LPL Group Ascendbacked Top Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)80c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 19, 2026, EDT+25%+$25
LoL: ⁠Movistar KOI Fénix vs Barça eSports - Game 1 Winnerbacked ⁠Movistar KOI Fénix · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)75c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 18, 2026, EDT+33.3%+$33.33
LoL: Natus Vincere vs Team Heretics - Game 1 Winnerbacked Team Heretics · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)38c$30Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 17, 2026, EDT-100%-$30
LoL: paiN Gaming vs Fluxo W7M - Game 2 Winnerbacked Fluxo W7M · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)19c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 16, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
LoL: Movistar KOI vs Natus Vincere - Game 2 Winnerbacked Movistar KOI · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)47c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 16, 2026, EDT+113.2%+$113.19
LoL: LGD Gaming vs JD Gaming (BO3) - LPL Group Ascendbacked LGD Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)51c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 16, 2026, EDT+96.1%+$96.08
LoL: LGD Gaming vs JD Gaming - Game 1 Winnerbacked LGD Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)33c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 16, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
Showing 25 of 177 picks, newest first.
Valorantlast resolved Aug 23, 2026, EDT8936%32 W · 57 L-9.0wins-0.10per pick46cpaid-29.3%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
Valorant — the 89 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Valorant, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Valorant: BBL Esports vs Fire Flux Esports - Map 1 Winnerbacked BBL Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)51c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 23, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
Valorant: MIBR vs Team Envy - Map 2 Winnerbacked Team Envy · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)34c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 21, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Valorant: BBL Esports vs FUT Esports (BO3) - VCT EMEA Playoffsbacked BBL Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)38c$60Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 21, 2026, EDT-100%-$60.19
Valorant: Team Liquid vs FUT Esports - Map 1 Winnerbacked FUT Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)53c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 20, 2026, EDT+87.2%+$87.16
Valorant: FUT Esports vs Eternal Fire - Map 1 Winnerbacked Eternal Fire · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)62c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 15, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Valorant: Joblife vs Fnatic - Map 2 Winnerbacked Fnatic · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)27c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 14, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Valorant: GIANTX vs Fnatic - Map 1 Winnerbacked GIANTX · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)44c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 13, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
Valorant: Joblife vs Pcific Esports (BO3) - VCT EMEA Play-Insbacked Pcific Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)39c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 13, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
Valorant: Joblife vs Pcific Esports - Map 2 Winnerbacked Joblife · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)38c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 13, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Valorant: Karmine Corp vs Team Liquid - Map 2 Winnerbacked Karmine Corp · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)54c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 1, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Valorant: Karmine Corp vs Team Liquid - Map 1 Winnerbacked Karmine Corp · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)54c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 1, 2026, EDT+85.2%+$17.04
Valorant: FUT Esports vs Team Vitality - Map 1 Winnerbacked FUT Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)40c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 1, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Valorant: Natus Vincere vs Pcific Esports - Map 2 Winnerbacked Pcific Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$10Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 30, 2026, EDT-100%-$10
Valorant: Gentle Mates vs Team Vitality (BO3) - VCT EMEA Group Alphabacked Gentle Mates · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)40c$10Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 29, 2026, EDT-100%-$10
Valorant: Gentle Mates vs Team Vitality - Map 1 Winnerbacked Gentle Mates · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)35c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 29, 2026, EDT+181.9%+$36.39
Valorant: Gentle Mates vs Natus Vincere - Map 1 Winnerbacked Natus Vincere · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)36c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 23, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Valorant: Global Esports vs FULL SENSE - Map 1 Winnerbacked FULL SENSE · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)55c$369Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 23, 2026, EDT-100%-$368.59
Valorant: FUT Esports vs Pcific Esports - Map 1 Winnerbacked Pcific Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)23c$44Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$44
Valorant: Bilibili Gaming vs XLG Gaming - Map 2 Winnerbacked Bilibili Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)46c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 20, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
Valorant: TEC Esports vs All Gamers - Map 2 Winnerbacked TEC Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)23c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 20, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
Valorant: Team Vitality vs Natus Vincere - Map 2 Winnerbacked Natus Vincere · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)36c$209Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 17, 2026, EDT-100%-$208.93
Valorant: Team Vitality vs Natus Vincere - Map 1 Winnerbacked Team Vitality · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)41c$1,293Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 17, 2026, EDT-100%-$1,293.33
Valorant: Pcific Esports vs Gentle Mates (BO3) - VCT EMEA Group Alphabacked Gentle Mates · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 16, 2026, EDT+100%+$100
Valorant: Fnatic vs GIANTX - Map 1 Winnerbacked GIANTX · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)53c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 16, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
Valorant: 100 Thieves vs NRG - Map 4 Winnerbacked 100 Thieves · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)46c$200Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 12, 2026, EDT+116%+$231.99
Showing 25 of 89 picks, newest first.
Fifa International Inactivelast resolved Jul 14, 2026, EDT2055%11 W · 9 L+0.7wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+16.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
Fifa International — the 20 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Fifa International, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Will France win on 2026-07-14?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)20c$10Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 14, 2026, EDT-100%-$10
Norway vs. England: Team to Advancebacked England · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)68c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 11, 2026, EDT+47.1%+$47.06
Will Argentina win on 2026-07-07?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)39c$40Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 7, 2026, EDT+158.3%+$63.32
Brazil vs. Norway: Team to Advancebacked Brazil · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)71c$100Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 5, 2026, EDT-100%-$100
Will Brazil win on 2026-07-05?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)55c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 5, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Will Australia vs. Egypt end in a draw?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)27c$30Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 3, 2026, EDT+270.4%+$81.11
Australia vs. Egypt: Team to Advancebacked Australia · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)26c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 3, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Will Egypt win on 2026-07-03?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)33c$105Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 3, 2026, EDT-100%-$105
Will England win on 2026-07-01?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)49c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 1, 2026, EDT+104.1%+$20.82
Will Norway win on 2026-06-30?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)72c$190Won — open this pick on its own pageJun 30, 2026, EDT+38.1%+$72.48
Will Netherlands win on 2026-06-29?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)74c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageJun 30, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Netherlands vs. Morocco: Team to Advancebacked Netherlands · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageJun 30, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Will Japan win on 2026-06-29?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)45c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageJun 29, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Will Brazil vs. Japan end in a draw?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)31c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageJun 29, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Will France win on 2026-06-26?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)75c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageJun 26, 2026, EDT+33.3%+$33.33
Portugal vs. Uzbekistan: Both Teams to Scorebacked No · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)67c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageJun 23, 2026, EDT+50.2%+$10.05
Will Belgium vs. IR Iran end in a draw?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)20c$10Won — open this pick on its own pageJun 21, 2026, EDT+400%+$40
Will Germany win on 2026-06-20?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)73c$1,316Won — open this pick on its own pageJun 20, 2026, EDT+37.7%+$495.62
Will Netherlands win on 2026-06-20?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)77c$832Won — open this pick on its own pageJun 20, 2026, EDT+29.9%+$248.44
Will France win on 2026-06-16?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)61c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageJun 16, 2026, EDT+63.9%+$12.79
All 20 picks, newest first.
CS2last resolved Aug 22, 2026, EDT1030%3 W · 7 L-0.5wins-0.05per pick35cpaid-24.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
CS2 — the 10 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in CS2, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Counter-Strike: Legacy vs Spirit (BO3) - Esports World Cup Playoffsbacked Legacy · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)18c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Counter-Strike: Legacy vs Spirit - Map 1 Winnerbacked Legacy · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)19c$15Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$15
Counter-Strike: Vitality vs Spirit (BO3) - Esports World Cup Playoffsbacked Vitality · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)36c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 21, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Counter-Strike: Legacy vs Team Falcons - Map 2 Winnerbacked Legacy · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)27c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 21, 2026, EDT+264.7%+$52.94
Counter-Strike: Legacy vs Team Falcons - Map 1 Winnerbacked Legacy · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)49c$14Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 21, 2026, EDT+104.1%+$14.44
Counter-Strike: G2 vs FURIA - Map 1 Winnerbacked G2 · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)39c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 20, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Counter-Strike: FUT Esports vs magic - Map 2 Winnerbacked magic · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)35c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 19, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Counter-Strike: Heroic vs Phantom - Map 2 Winnerbacked Heroic · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)25c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 16, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
Counter-Strike: Heroic vs Phantom - Map 1 Winnerbacked Heroic · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)55c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 16, 2026, EDT+83.2%+$83.22
Counter-Strike: PARIVISION vs FaZe (BO3) - XSE Pro League Playoffsbacked FaZe · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)43c$20Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 11, 2026, EDT-100%-$20
All 10 picks, newest first.
Champions League Inactivelast resolved May 30, 2026, EDT10%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.25per pick25cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
Champions League — the 1 pick behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Champions League, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Will Arsenal win the 2025–26 Champions League?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)25c$10Lost — open this pick on its own pageMay 30, 2026, EDT-100%-$10
All 1 picks, newest first.
NBA Inactivelast resolved May 24, 2026, EDT10%0 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.41per pick41cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
NBA — the 1 pick behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in NBA, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Thunder vs. Spursbacked Thunder · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)41c$13Lost — open this pick on its own pageMay 24, 2026, EDT-100%-$13
All 1 picks, newest first.

vs expected is how many more (or fewer) Picks this wallet won than the prices it paid implied it would. It is the column that tells a real edge apart from a record bought by backing favourites. Realizable edge is what that comes to per Pick for somebody copying the wallet, after the cost of getting in behind it. Avg entry is the average price it paid, so a strong record built on heavy favourites shows as one. ROI per pick counts every Pick equally rather than by size, which is how a record earned across many Picks is told apart from one carried by a few large ones. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in — an American night game settles after midnight UTC, so any other zone would name the day after the one it was played on. Inactive means nothing has resolved in that Category recently. The score is kept and the wallet stays reachable here; it only leaves the default leaderboard.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.