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Valorant · resolved market

Valorant: G2 Esports vs XLG Gaming - Map 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
XLG Gamingof G2 Esports, XLG Gaming
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Valorantevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$97,449
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$105,127

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $97,449 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 146 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Valorant is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Valorant
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xafd4…7e61backed G2 Esports65c14,022$9,057 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,056.826050%130 W · 130 L+0.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid+1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2c28…9e49backed G2 Esports23c6,693$1,552 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,5521241.7%5 W · 7 L+0.3wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked XLG Gaming44c5,300$2,310 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,989.5568458.3%399 W · 285 L+56.5wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+6.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x3d2b…afc5backed XLG Gaming57c3,817$2,164 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,652.246259.7%37 W · 25 L+4.2wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+2.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed XLG Gaming37c3,666$1,349 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,316.4353159.1%314 W · 217 L+41.6wins+0.08per pick51cpaid+7.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked XLG Gaming47c3,411$1,608 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,802.7153355.3%295 W · 238 L+24.0wins+0.05per pick51cpaid-2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed XLG Gaming49c3,263$1,597 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,666.4356357.9%326 W · 237 L+36.3wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+1.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xbdd4…9bcdbacked G2 Esports79c3,136$2,478 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,477.7612862.5%80 W · 48 L-9.7wins-0.08per pick70cpaid-10.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x815f…1eefbacked G2 Esports31c3,065$953 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$953.1611450%57 W · 57 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked XLG Gaming40c3,023$1,209 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,814.6865559.4%389 W · 266 L+50.5wins+0.08per pick52cpaid+6.7%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x182d…73e9backed XLG Gaming21c3,000$630 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,369.9639042.6%166 W · 224 L+19.3wins+0.05per pick38cpaid+14.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed G2 Esports51c2,909$1,493 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,493.3793049.4%459 W · 471 L-0.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa487…9439backed XLG Gaming24c1,927$467 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,460.294736.2%17 W · 30 L-3.8wins-0.08per pick44cpaid-22%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xa79a…d72abacked G2 Esports50c1,846$920 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92030652.3%160 W · 146 L-9.1wins-0.03per pick55cpaid-7.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed G2 Esports48c1,777$859 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$858.831,74646.2%806 W · 940 L-3.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-15.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x03f4…7e44backed G2 Esports60c1,600$960 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96032047.8%153 W · 167 L+8.9wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+11.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x568d…87d0backed G2 Esports18c1,500$270 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27010842.6%46 W · 62 L0.0wins0.00per pick43cpaid-4.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked XLG Gaming78c1,481$1,160 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$321.4588844.4%394 W · 494 L+0.5wins0.00per pick44cpaid-15%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1943…1561backed XLG Gaming63c1,460$921 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$539.313650%18 W · 18 L+1.7wins+0.05per pick45cpaid-4.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb57d…07bfbacked G2 Esports67c1,409$942 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$941.5114534.5%50 W · 95 L-7.6wins-0.05per pick40cpaid-13.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x4ffd…7821backed XLG Gaming48c1,409$669 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$739.6442540.5%172 W · 253 L-22.7wins-0.05per pick46cpaid-27.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd32f…1496backed XLG Gaming39c1,295$507 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$788.066373%46 W · 17 L+10.8wins+0.17per pick56cpaid+25%equal weight64+0.12 edge/pick
0xc746…3943backed XLG Gaming51c1,208$616 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$591.841353.8%7 W · 6 L+0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid-8.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked XLG Gaming64c948.38$606 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$342.4194361.2%577 W · 366 L+58.2wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xe01f…ab4abacked G2 Esports66c934.69$616 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$615.9425444.9%114 W · 140 L+5.4wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6832…831fbacked XLG Gaming78c904.92$709 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$196.310238.2%39 W · 63 L-4.6wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-31.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xde7c…2fcbbacked XLG Gaming22c840$185 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$655.2475%3 W · 1 L+1.8wins+0.45per pick30cpaid+153.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x8dd8…9a1cbacked G2 Esports26c828.89$216 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$216.4331227.6%86 W · 226 L-33.9wins-0.11per pick38cpaid-42.3%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0xddef…d52bbacked XLG Gaming24c826.54$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$626.54366.7%2 W · 1 L+1.3wins+0.42per pick25cpaid+134.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xdd88…dadbbacked G2 Esports79c824$651 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$650.9633153.5%177 W · 154 L-0.5wins0.00per pick54cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked G2 Esports24c715$174 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$174.381,35839%530 W · 828 L-57.9wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-17%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xa9f5…937fbacked G2 Esports35c713$252 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$252.361,60137.5%600 W · 1,001 L-75.0wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-26.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked G2 Esports24c669.95$158 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$158.451,30943.8%573 W · 736 L-44.5wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-19.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked G2 Esports56c617.13$344 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$344.361,60845.2%727 W · 881 L-24.0wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-22.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xff34…694bbacked XLG Gaming65c574.46$373 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$200.9878562.8%493 W · 292 L+56.2wins+0.07per pick56cpaid+7.6%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xba38…e406backed XLG Gaming27c570.81$154 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$417.0454751.2%280 W · 267 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x969f…cbdcbacked G2 Esports74c524.55$387 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$387.117737.7%29 W · 48 L-4.2wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-25.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x4c48…eba9backed G2 Esports78c513$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$400.147045.7%32 W · 38 L-1.9wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3f97…4059backed G2 Esports70c500$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35024946.2%115 W · 134 L-0.3wins0.00per pick46cpaid+2.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3fcc…9f91backed G2 Esports10c492.07$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.2160022.7%136 W · 464 L-26.3wins-0.04per pick27cpaid-36.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x7657…66ccbacked XLG Gaming69c464.44$322 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$142.542576%19 W · 6 L+3.0wins+0.12per pick64cpaid+18.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x5fd2…5dedbacked XLG Gaming22c455.8$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$355.55850%4 W · 4 L+1.8wins+0.23per pick27cpaid+46.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x17d3…586bbacked XLG Gaming43c439.99$189 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$250.86250%31 W · 31 L+1.8wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+2.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x081e…f76ebacked G2 Esports56c430.88$240 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2404845.8%22 W · 26 L-3.8wins-0.08per pick54cpaid-14.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x27f5…c45dbacked XLG Gaming49c400$196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2044544.4%20 W · 25 L+0.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcb02…c292backed XLG Gaming48c399.99$192 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2083571.4%25 W · 10 L+5.3wins+0.15per pick56cpaid+30.5%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x8a5a…6002backed XLG Gaming26c384.62$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$284.62757.1%4 W · 3 L+1.9wins+0.27per pick30cpaid+69%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x76f1…f655backed G2 Esports52c383.03$199 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.3737545.6%171 W · 204 L-1.6wins0.00per pick46cpaid-9.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked XLG Gaming30c321.06$96 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$225.051,37647.1%648 W · 728 L+10.6wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-6.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xda77…683fbacked G2 Esports39c311.23$121 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$121.4490733.1%300 W · 607 L-89.7wins-0.10per pick43cpaid-40.4%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0xeb7b…bfeebacked XLG Gaming49c293.4$144 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$149.632231.8%7 W · 15 L-1.1wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-18.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3323…213abacked G2 Esports52c287.85$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1502450%12 W · 12 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid-5.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9eb9…cb5dbacked G2 Esports18c283.43$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.6215145%68 W · 83 L+0.2wins0.00per pick45cpaid+0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4247…91c4backed G2 Esports58c270.99$158 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$158.216040%24 W · 36 L-5.9wins-0.10per pick50cpaid-25.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x1513…831abacked G2 Esports79c266.49$211 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$210.5314452.1%75 W · 69 L-0.7wins0.00per pick53cpaid-2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc4fe…601fbacked G2 Esports64c258.87$167 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$166.5984838.2%324 W · 524 L-50.5wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-24.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x9f2a…3706backed G2 Esports77c250$193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$192.52343.5%10 W · 13 L-1.6wins-0.07per pick51cpaid+75.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x339d…1503backed G2 Esports50c250$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$125944.4%4 W · 5 L-0.8wins-0.09per pick54cpaid-17.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3f09…f339backed G2 Esports49c250$123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122.5966.7%6 W · 3 L+1.6wins+0.18per pick49cpaid+34.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xbe59…0d2ebacked XLG Gaming49c249.99$122 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$127.536648.4%177 W · 189 L+12.2wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+9.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5ae8…e1b3backed G2 Esports51c248$127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$127742.9%3 W · 4 L-1.6wins-0.22per pick65cpaid-39.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xc7d0…1f8abacked G2 Esports45c244.01$109 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$108.855637.6%209 W · 347 L-11.5wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-23.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6401…f240backed G2 Esports77c242$186 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$186.345444.4%24 W · 30 L+3.0wins+0.06per pick39cpaid+5.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x78e4…4f28backed G2 Esports79c239.36$189 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$188.951637.5%6 W · 10 L-1.7wins-0.11per pick48cpaid-11%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x67af…61eebacked G2 Esports44c227.69$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.8596245.1%434 W · 528 L-18.9wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-14.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2765…7ee4backed XLG Gaming22c220$48 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$171.63857.9%22 W · 16 L+0.7wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+18.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4ec3…34a7backed XLG Gaming50c214.21$108 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$106.429151.5%150 W · 141 L-0.9wins0.00per pick52cpaid-7.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa72a…5685backed XLG Gaming63c203.6$129 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$75.035048%24 W · 26 L-2.5wins-0.05per pick53cpaid-13.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe123…b4ffbacked XLG Gaming23c201.18$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$154.912157.1%12 W · 9 L+0.8wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+11.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6e31…0e6ebacked G2 Esports75c200$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15010975.2%82 W · 27 L+2.5wins+0.02per pick73cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9b5f…3492backed XLG Gaming76c196.49$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46.4934253.2%182 W · 160 L-6.5wins-0.02per pick55cpaid-4.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdd06…f0c1backed G2 Esports51c196.08$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1003046.7%14 W · 16 L-1.1wins-0.04per pick50cpaid+3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4891…2a07backed G2 Esports52c192.69$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100616.7%1 W · 5 L-2.2wins-0.37per pick54cpaid-75.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x2534…0099backed XLG Gaming23c191.17$44 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$147.29850%4 W · 4 L+1.2wins+0.15per pick35cpaid+81.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x19df…85dfbacked G2 Esports14c159.98$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.1728.6%2 W · 5 L-0.7wins-0.10per pick39cpaid-48.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6376…0d2abacked G2 Esports76c156.81$119 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$118.831046.5%144 W · 166 L-9.1wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-7.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0be3…35febacked G2 Esports79c156.41$124 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$123.562867.9%19 W · 9 L-1.4wins-0.05per pick73cpaid-5.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe767…9107backed XLG Gaming63c150.89$95 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$55.836755.2%37 W · 30 L+3.3wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+9.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xf1ee…519cbacked XLG Gaming27c149.07$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$108.811,24749.6%619 W · 628 L-2.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid-7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec09…4c2fbacked G2 Esports22c138.43$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30425%1 W · 3 L-0.7wins-0.16per pick41cpaid-50.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x307d…9163backed XLG Gaming79c136.43$107 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.9522455.4%124 W · 100 L-12.6wins-0.06per pick61cpaid-10%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xcd86…d74fbacked XLG Gaming74c135.07$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35.071471.4%10 W · 4 L+1.3wins+0.09per pick62cpaid+12.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1cdd…e595backed G2 Esports38c133.4$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.4969722.8%159 W · 538 L-94.4wins-0.14per pick36cpaid-54.7%equal weight35-0.13 edge/pick
0x8faa…e76abacked G2 Esports24c131.76$32 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$325642.9%24 W · 32 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-25%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7e51…2412backed XLG Gaming61c131.08$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.087745.5%35 W · 42 L+0.3wins0.00per pick45cpaid-5.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcd6a…fdbbbacked G2 Esports79c129.31$102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.157356.2%41 W · 32 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick55cpaid-0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x64d4…f056backed G2 Esports11c126.45$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.9123836.1%86 W · 152 L-7.9wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-23.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed XLG Gaming69c122.68$85 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$38.0351749.5%256 W · 261 L-2.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7a3f…6712backed G2 Esports10c120.25$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.3530544.3%135 W · 170 L-1.0wins0.00per pick45cpaid-6.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3162…d515backed G2 Esports59c119.99$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70.7918948.7%92 W · 97 L+0.8wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2460…e144backed G2 Esports57c108.78$62 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6228151.6%145 W · 136 L-10.4wins-0.04per pick55cpaid-9.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x317f…3a7abacked G2 Esports46c108.7$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5014747.6%70 W · 77 L+2.5wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+2.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x5024…b8bcbacked G2 Esports61c106.23$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64.83762.2%23 W · 14 L-1.3wins-0.03per pick66cpaid-9.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb053…1935backed G2 Esports63c105.99$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.89933.3%3 W · 6 L-0.8wins-0.09per pick42cpaid-26.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5181…b4a2backed G2 Esports66c105.87$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70.293545.7%16 W · 19 L-2.1wins-0.06per pick52cpaid-16.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5410…dcc7backed XLG Gaming37c105$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$65.715931.4%50 W · 109 L-10.1wins-0.06per pick38cpaid-10.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x14e7…a32cbacked G2 Esports74c104$77 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$76.9942140.4%170 W · 251 L-26.0wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-23.5%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x1bcc…0d8abacked XLG Gaming50c103.31$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.8315217.8%27 W · 125 L-2.9wins-0.02per pick20cpaid-42.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x94f1…b9e7backed G2 Esports52c100$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5232152.6%169 W · 152 L+6.8wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+4.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf91e…7e0bbacked G2 Esports51c94.37$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.574252.4%22 W · 20 L-2.6wins-0.06per pick59cpaid-13.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Valorant and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 9 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.