Tennis · resolved market
US Open: Ben Shelton vs Adrian Mannarino
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Rebuilt .
What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- Mannarinoof Shelton, Mannarino
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- Tennisevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $419,457
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $456,333
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $419,457 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 81 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Tennis is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in Tennis | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0x821d…0a01backed Mannarino | 16c | 55,008$8,974 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$46,034.05 | 99 | 35.4%35 W · 64 L | -0.7wins | -0.01per pick | 36cpaid | -0.6%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xecb1…5da3backed Shelton | 35c | 42,937$15,061 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15,060.94 | 55 | 45.5%25 W · 30 L | -1.8wins | -0.03per pick | 49cpaid | -17.5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x9cb9…32f2backed Mannarino | 16c | 30,654$4,905 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$25,749.36 | 528 | 44.7%236 W · 292 L | +30.8wins | +0.06per pick | 39cpaid | +6.7%equal weight | 56+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x8e0b…9e5cbacked Shelton | 33c | 30,000$9,900 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$9,900 | 139 | 34.5%48 W · 91 L | +4.7wins | +0.03per pick | 31cpaid | +14.5%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x60a9…b5a8backed Mannarino | 20c | 20,347$4,100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16,247.46 | 18 | 22.2%4 W · 14 L | +1.1wins | +0.06per pick | 16cpaid | -12.8%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x4dbe…af34backed Mannarino | 16c | 15,586$2,507 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13,078.82 | 161 | 40.4%65 W · 96 L | +0.3wins | 0.00per pick | 40cpaid | -1.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x61bf…647ebacked Shelton | 65c | 14,437$9,429 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$9,429.2 | 18 | 5.6%1 W · 17 L | -3.6wins | -0.20per pick | 25cpaid | -89.1%equal weight | 41-0.08 edge/pick |
| 0xc0f3…759dbacked Mannarino | 19c | 12,908$2,500 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10,408.41 | 11 | 27.3%3 W · 8 L | 0.0wins | 0.00per pick | 28cpaid | -12.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xaf3c…f5ffbacked Mannarino | 36c | 10,742$3,911 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$6,831.05 | 118 | 59.3%70 W · 48 L | +8.0wins | +0.07per pick | 53cpaid | +17.2%equal weight | 56+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xf68a…5b1bbacked Mannarino | 16c | 10,000$1,600 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8,399.99 | 158 | 32.9%52 W · 106 L | -2.7wins | -0.02per pick | 35cpaid | -4.9%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x336b…1233backed Mannarino | 30c | 9,554$2,906 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$6,647.93 | 579 | 39.7%230 W · 349 L | -0.5wins | 0.00per pick | 40cpaid | -5.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x95b8…47c9backed Mannarino | 35c | 9,000$3,190 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5,810 | 284 | 43%122 W · 162 L | -4.2wins | -0.01per pick | 44cpaid | -4.5%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x5ba6…0f07backed Mannarino | 28c | 7,000$1,970 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5,030.08 | 669 | 49.6%332 W · 337 L | -11.1wins | -0.02per pick | 51cpaid | -4.6%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x5fc8…39efbacked Shelton | 74c | 6,719$5,005 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$5,005.03 | 17 | 35.3%6 W · 11 L | -1.9wins | -0.11per pick | 46cpaid | -37.3%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xad87…6a86backed Shelton | 73c | 6,210$4,523 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$4,522.81 | 14 | 50%7 W · 7 L | -0.5wins | -0.04per pick | 54cpaid | -21.8%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x9dd9…08bdbacked Shelton | 69c | 5,724$3,934 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$3,934.32 | 1,852 | 44.5%825 W · 1,027 L | -20.3wins | -0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -18.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x197f…dc8dbacked Shelton | 75c | 5,372$4,043 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$4,043.03 | 34 | 41.2%14 W · 20 L | -3.0wins | -0.09per pick | 50cpaid | -22.3%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x6149…dacfbacked Mannarino | 21c | 5,215$1,109 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$4,105.67 | 12 | 50%6 W · 6 L | +0.2wins | +0.02per pick | 48cpaid | +6.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x3751…7dfdbacked Shelton | 80c | 5,098$4,067 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$4,067.42 | 11 | 45.5%5 W · 6 L | -0.1wins | -0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -15.8%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x8ba9…bfaebacked Shelton | 80c | 3,025$2,414 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$2,414.07 | 177 | 54.8%97 W · 80 L | -3.7wins | -0.02per pick | 57cpaid | +0.5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x0aa4…dbc5backed Mannarino | 36c | 2,778$1,000 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,777.78 | 123 | 35%43 W · 80 L | -1.7wins | -0.01per pick | 36cpaid | +14.6%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x9fa9…2491backed Shelton | 69c | 2,708$1,866 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,866 | 321 | 41.1%132 W · 189 L | -1.1wins | 0.00per pick | 41cpaid | -19.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x0113…6f26backed Mannarino | 62c | 2,399$1,475 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$923.39 | 129 | 49.6%64 W · 65 L | +0.5wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | +1.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xa645…0be6backed Shelton | 1c | 2,000$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 33 | 39.4%13 W · 20 L | +3.2wins | +0.10per pick | 30cpaid | +19.5%equal weight | 56+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x7fc7…969bbacked Mannarino | 18c | 2,000$360 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,640 | 124 | 39.5%49 W · 75 L | -2.0wins | -0.02per pick | 41cpaid | -11.6%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x5d76…9168backed Mannarino | 43c | 1,941$830 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,111.25 | 375 | 40.8%153 W · 222 L | -5.5wins | -0.01per pick | 42cpaid | -0.2%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x1d64…5c93backed Mannarino | 17c | 1,933$321 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,612.87 | 136 | 53.7%73 W · 63 L | +2.3wins | +0.02per pick | 52cpaid | +9.7%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x2be4…01adbacked Shelton | 53c | 1,799$950 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$950.49 | 67 | 47.8%32 W · 35 L | +1.7wins | +0.03per pick | 45cpaid | -15.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x2005…75eabacked Shelton | 72c | 1,433$1,033 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,033.38 | 11,435 | 43.4%4,959 W · 6,476 L | +17.8wins | 0.00per pick | 43cpaid | -20.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xd589…27c2backed Mannarino | 28c | 1,300$363 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$937.5 | 92 | 45.7%42 W · 50 L | +0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 45cpaid | -6.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xfd2f…37ddbacked Shelton | 43c | 1,291$557 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$557.42 | 149 | 33.6%50 W · 99 L | +4.0wins | +0.03per pick | 31cpaid | -5.9%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xf80b…fa00backed Mannarino | 13c | 1,171$148 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,022.11 | 159 | 57.2%91 W · 68 L | +15.8wins | +0.10per pick | 47cpaid | +18.3%equal weight | 60+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x7b3c…ffc7backed Shelton | 6c | 1,025$60 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$60 | 86 | 43%37 W · 49 L | -5.4wins | -0.06per pick | 49cpaid | -23.2%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x1464…5e75backed Mannarino | 15c | 997.84$151 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$847.18 | 154 | 52.6%81 W · 73 L | +10.8wins | +0.07per pick | 46cpaid | +26.9%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xe88e…a7d4backed Mannarino | 21c | 970.05$200 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$770.05 | 13 | 69.2%9 W · 4 L | +1.1wins | +0.09per pick | 60cpaid | +26.4%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xcc03…21eabacked Mannarino | 35c | 868.29$300 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$568.29 | 5 | 40%2 W · 3 L | -0.1wins | -0.01per pick | 41cpaid | -10.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xe83c…5e8fbacked Mannarino | 13c | 865$112 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$752.55 | 627 | 42.4%266 W · 361 L | +0.5wins | 0.00per pick | 42cpaid | +1.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x700f…62d8backed Mannarino | 13c | 776.92$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$676.92 | 383 | 48%184 W · 199 L | +7.7wins | +0.02per pick | 46cpaid | +2.5%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x4df3…788fbacked Mannarino | 13c | 755.81$99 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$656.47 | 951 | 40.1%381 W · 570 L | +29.7wins | +0.03per pick | 37cpaid | +12%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x6d82…7d33backed Shelton | 76c | 677.38$512 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$511.59 | 8 | 12.5%1 W · 7 L | -2.5wins | -0.31per pick | 44cpaid | -80.6%equal weight | 42-0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x03db…c28bbacked Shelton | 80c | 670$534 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$534 | 12 | 25%3 W · 9 L | -1.4wins | -0.12per pick | 37cpaid | -37.6%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xc684…2228backed Shelton | 47c | 669.41$313 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$313.13 | 77 | 44.2%34 W · 43 L | -3.8wins | -0.05per pick | 49cpaid | -20.5%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xb852…bfaebacked Mannarino | 17c | 600$102 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$498 | 296 | 34.1%101 W · 195 L | +10.3wins | +0.03per pick | 31cpaid | +15.4%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x48e3…c148backed Mannarino | 16c | 600$96 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$504 | 157 | 24.8%39 W · 118 L | +5.8wins | +0.04per pick | 21cpaid | +20.8%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xcbaa…59b8backed Mannarino | 9c | 566.44$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$516.46 | 324 | 48.1%156 W · 168 L | -11.1wins | -0.03per pick | 52cpaid | -3.2%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x80b1…f64abacked Mannarino | 20c | 505.05$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$405.05 | 60 | 35%21 W · 39 L | +2.1wins | +0.04per pick | 31cpaid | +0.4%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xce2b…08fabacked Mannarino | 33c | 500$165 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$335 | 125 | 52.8%66 W · 59 L | -5.4wins | -0.04per pick | 57cpaid | -6.5%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xb3d0…5c32backed Mannarino | 13c | 500$65 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$435 | 226 | 29.2%66 W · 160 L | +7.1wins | +0.03per pick | 26cpaid | +16.2%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x3573…b6f9backed Mannarino | 17c | 472.54$80 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$392.21 | 11 | 36.4%4 W · 7 L | -0.5wins | -0.05per pick | 41cpaid | +22.5%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x4142…1853backed Shelton | 45c | 440.5$200 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$200 | 5 | 20%1 W · 4 L | -0.9wins | -0.19per pick | 39cpaid | -51.2%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xd9e0…05f2backed Shelton | 70c | 350.06$246 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$245.83 | 2,766 | 47.7%1,318 W · 1,448 L | +44.2wins | +0.02per pick | 46cpaid | -18.4%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xbe3c…a835backed Shelton | 63c | 333.81$209 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$209.18 | 312 | 55.4%173 W · 139 L | +5.0wins | +0.02per pick | 54cpaid | 0%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x25bf…7a56backed Mannarino | 16c | 312.33$49 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$263.33 | 2,335 | 46.6%1,088 W · 1,247 L | +55.3wins | +0.02per pick | 44cpaid | -1.5%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x1aaa…0c04backed Mannarino | 19c | 305.47$57 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$248.47 | 143 | 43.4%62 W · 81 L | -7.5wins | -0.05per pick | 49cpaid | -11.4%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x4b5a…7618backed Mannarino | 8c | 255$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$234.6 | 253 | 30%76 W · 177 L | +4.1wins | +0.02per pick | 28cpaid | -5.2%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x7cdc…7cddbacked Mannarino | 17c | 235.29$40 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$195.29 | 29 | 51.7%15 W · 14 L | +5.2wins | +0.18per pick | 34cpaid | +66.6%equal weight | 61+0.10 edge/pick |
| 0x7ff9…e494backed Mannarino | 14c | 223.47$31 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$192.78 | 360 | 40%144 W · 216 L | +7.9wins | +0.02per pick | 38cpaid | +0.6%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x480d…f219backed Shelton | 47c | 214.91$100 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$100 | 731 | 47.9%350 W · 381 L | -16.9wins | -0.02per pick | 50cpaid | -7.7%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x5487…a014backed Shelton | 38c | 210$80 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$80.3 | 185 | 48.1%89 W · 96 L | +1.4wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -1.5%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x26dc…95c4backed Mannarino | 6c | 200$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$188 | 28 | 46.4%13 W · 15 L | +4.1wins | +0.14per pick | 32cpaid | +62.2%equal weight | 58+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0xa507…2468backed Mannarino | 34c | 194.12$66 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$128.12 | 13 | 38.5%5 W · 8 L | -0.1wins | -0.01per pick | 40cpaid | -26.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x8d40…b4ecbacked Mannarino | 29c | 190$55 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$135 | 135 | 46.7%63 W · 72 L | +11.8wins | +0.09per pick | 38cpaid | +6%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xb478…ac0abacked Mannarino | 21c | 168.65$35 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$133.65 | 360 | 47.2%170 W · 190 L | +9.6wins | +0.03per pick | 45cpaid | -1.9%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x29c0…efaabacked Mannarino | 16c | 159.52$26 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$134 | 551 | 43.4%239 W · 312 L | +0.5wins | 0.00per pick | 43cpaid | +5.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xf102…1348backed Mannarino | 16c | 125$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$105 | 1,489 | 32.6%486 W · 1,003 L | +22.2wins | +0.01per pick | 31cpaid | +6.4%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x86e6…63d8backed Mannarino | 51c | 120$62 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$58.4 | 37 | 45.9%17 W · 20 L | -0.5wins | -0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x6b3a…2841backed Mannarino | 29c | 110$32 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$78.2 | 421 | 41.8%176 W · 245 L | -12.2wins | -0.03per pick | 45cpaid | -11.7%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x742f…d673backed Shelton | 64c | 110$70 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$70.13 | 439 | 48.5%213 W · 226 L | -2.2wins | -0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -12.8%equal weight | 490.00 edge/pick |
| 0x351b…4d06backed Shelton | 75c | 105$79 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$78.75 | 28 | 39.3%11 W · 17 L | -4.2wins | -0.15per pick | 54cpaid | -39.1%equal weight | 41-0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x47ab…95dfbacked Mannarino | 21c | 100$21 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$79 | 27 | 51.9%14 W · 13 L | +3.1wins | +0.11per pick | 40cpaid | +14.3%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xe25c…ae63backed Shelton | 46c | 90$41 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$41 | 527 | 50.3%265 W · 262 L | -6.9wins | -0.01per pick | 52cpaid | -13.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0722…d131backed Shelton | 69c | 90$62 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$61.8 | 14 | 57.1%8 W · 6 L | -1.4wins | -0.10per pick | 67cpaid | -14.9%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xa009…ab48backed Mannarino | 32c | 90$29 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$61.2 | 13 | 53.8%7 W · 6 L | 0.0wins | 0.00per pick | 54cpaid | +4.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x338e…9f49backed Shelton | 75c | 70$53 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$52.5 | 10 | 80%8 W · 2 L | +1.4wins | +0.14per pick | 66cpaid | +16.2%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x1cd3…5b39backed Mannarino | 31c | 66.82$21 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$45.82 | 3 | 33.3%1 W · 2 L | +0.1wins | +0.03per pick | 30cpaid | +6.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x6288…1bdcbacked Shelton | 50c | 60$30 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$30 | 16 | 37.5%6 W · 10 L | -1.0wins | -0.06per pick | 44cpaid | -17.5%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x3ea2…fe7ebacked Mannarino | 36c | 55.56$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$35.56 | 25 | 72%18 W · 7 L | +2.5wins | +0.10per pick | 62cpaid | +19.9%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x045c…5861backed Mannarino | 23c | 50$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$38.5 | 152 | 46.7%71 W · 81 L | -0.6wins | 0.00per pick | 47cpaid | -9.5%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x03a6…1198backed Mannarino | 71c | 39$28 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$11.31 | 77 | 36.4%28 W · 49 L | +2.7wins | +0.03per pick | 33cpaid | +6.4%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf86c…ba99backed Shelton | 37c | 30$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11 | 43 | 48.8%21 W · 22 L | -3.1wins | -0.07per pick | 56cpaid | -19.1%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x91f4…8384backed Shelton | 51c | 27.45$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14 | 1 | 0%0 W · 1 L | -0.5wins | -0.51per pick | 51cpaid | -100%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Tennis and say nothing about this market.
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.