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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: PARIVISION vs L1ga Team - Game 2 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
PARIVISIONof PARIVISION, L1ga Team
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$107,589
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$130,864

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $107,589 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 103 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x9eca…5a59backed PARIVISION75c17,805$13,383 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,422.640051.5%206 W · 194 L-6.9wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-4.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2146…d41bbacked L1ga Team22c16,613$3,585 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,585.4389741.5%372 W · 525 L+22.7wins+0.03per pick39cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xd06c…cdafbacked L1ga Team22c13,158$2,859 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,859.261,18643.2%512 W · 674 L+42.2wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+1.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x05a7…42e6backed PARIVISION78c7,170$5,591 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,579.541056.8%233 W · 177 L+5.2wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbff7…92fbbacked L1ga Team29c5,803$1,692 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,691.827143.5%118 W · 153 L-10.1wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-12.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x0e1b…ecafbacked PARIVISION77c5,791$4,447 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,344.0196645.1%436 W · 530 L-7.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-13.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed PARIVISION78c4,499$3,510 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$988.9796557.4%554 W · 411 L+49.5wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+7.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xa35c…a113backed L1ga Team22c4,367$965 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$965.0561745.7%282 W · 335 L-12.4wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4133…165bbacked L1ga Team31c3,863$1,208 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,208.071,27533.5%427 W · 848 L-15.6wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-18.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xab04…a00abacked L1ga Team19c2,573$501 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$501.2437945.9%174 W · 205 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed L1ga Team32c1,453$465 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$464.792,82843.6%1,234 W · 1,594 L-39.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-20.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked L1ga Team17c1,407$236 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$235.761,52137.9%576 W · 945 L-57.8wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-26.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8634…1b5bbacked PARIVISION58c1,221$713 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$507.971752.9%9 W · 8 L-0.8wins-0.05per pick58cpaid-9.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0c99…0c88backed L1ga Team37c1,210$454 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$453.571,16447.2%549 W · 615 L-29.1wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-9.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xda00…5c4dbacked L1ga Team17c1,122$191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$190.779650%48 W · 48 L-2.1wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-5.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa27c…ab67backed PARIVISION64c1,103$707 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39679959.4%475 W · 324 L+4.1wins+0.01per pick59cpaid-2.1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x9851…1320backed L1ga Team27c803.53$215 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$215.254452.3%23 W · 21 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-13%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf919…3241backed PARIVISION65c774.34$504 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.51747.1%8 W · 9 L+0.9wins+0.05per pick42cpaid+16.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x135f…528cbacked L1ga Team17c752.94$128 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1285824.1%14 W · 44 L-2.2wins-0.04per pick28cpaid-13.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed L1ga Team22c717.77$156 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$156.071,12036.1%404 W · 716 L-39.4wins-0.04per pick40cpaid-31.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2c1a…42d8backed PARIVISION79c653.58$517 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$136.189837.8%37 W · 61 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick39cpaid+0.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa917…4e8dbacked L1ga Team18c613$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$108.193237.5%12 W · 20 L-3.9wins-0.12per pick50cpaid-37.4%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x5799…db25backed PARIVISION66c607.95$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$207.9546049.8%229 W · 231 L+2.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.9%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x0ee5…e798backed L1ga Team26c606.7$159 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$159.2872035.1%253 W · 467 L-24.8wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-19.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x80d8…b703backed L1ga Team33c600$198 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19874549.3%367 W · 378 L0.0wins0.00per pick49cpaid-2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x505f…645ebacked PARIVISION78c599.99$465 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1351,28045%576 W · 704 L-12.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-15%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x703b…e371backed PARIVISION65c599.98$388 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$211.9951544.9%231 W · 284 L+40.9wins+0.08per pick37cpaid+3.9%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x0c67…d062backed L1ga Team18c565.82$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1001,13742.3%481 W · 656 L-27.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x974f…cd80backed PARIVISION69c478.37$330 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$148.5455147.5%262 W · 289 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+4.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb97e…262bbacked L1ga Team24c453.45$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11052649.2%259 W · 267 L+21.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked PARIVISION75c445.75$333 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$112.691,45848.5%707 W · 751 L+27.0wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-14.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x77f2…eec6backed L1ga Team17c425.65$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72.3655457.8%320 W · 234 L+12.3wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+0.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x473f…9892backed L1ga Team36c413.85$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15050053%265 W · 235 L+14.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x31a4…7afcbacked L1ga Team13c411.14$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53.4495342.2%402 W · 551 L-20.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc0f5…3d04backed L1ga Team19c409.63$77 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$77.2951049%250 W · 260 L-0.4wins0.00per pick49cpaid-9.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbe5a…13f5backed PARIVISION63c405.76$254 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.8945046.7%210 W · 240 L-11.2wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-7.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe84a…702dbacked L1ga Team37c395.46$146 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$146.3215949.7%79 W · 80 L-4.0wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-8.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x86bc…efbcbacked L1ga Team21c380.95$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8023555.7%131 W · 104 L-4.7wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-7.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x43dc…86e1backed L1ga Team21c338.1$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7124244.6%108 W · 134 L+5.7wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+2.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbb8e…08c1backed L1ga Team20c325$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64.1864547.8%308 W · 337 L-0.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid-13.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x76f1…f655backed L1ga Team21c307.6$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65.2921540.9%88 W · 127 L-12.4wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-23.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed L1ga Team19c303.41$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.2269132.6%225 W · 466 L-26.8wins-0.04per pick36cpaid-27.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2aa7…003fbacked L1ga Team36c300$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10845052.4%236 W · 214 L+13.8wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+0.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3fc7…62b9backed L1ga Team17c280$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.665441.9%274 W · 380 L-1.3wins0.00per pick42cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbe74…a70ebacked L1ga Team13c264.01$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34.6213145.8%60 W · 71 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-10.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe8e1…49ddbacked PARIVISION75c263.4$198 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$65.5567043.3%290 W · 380 L-6.8wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-14%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x968a…3841backed L1ga Team18c262.5$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46.820939.2%82 W · 127 L-10.8wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-25.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x8725…eb10backed L1ga Team17c258$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42.7277941.1%320 W · 459 L-7.9wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x35e7…2f43backed L1ga Team21c221.33$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$463641.7%15 W · 21 L-0.6wins-0.02per pick43cpaid+4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked PARIVISION74c216.75$160 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.661,70241.2%701 W · 1,001 L-44.0wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-26.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3c1e…9514backed PARIVISION71c212.59$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$62.5986451.7%447 W · 417 L+20.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+0.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2761…4d95backed L1ga Team46c210.89$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.6744645.7%204 W · 242 L+0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbc9c…b01cbacked L1ga Team25c200$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$507034.3%24 W · 46 L-7.3wins-0.10per pick45cpaid-30.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x9a8e…9408backed PARIVISION66c200$132 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6896245.5%438 W · 524 L+22.1wins+0.02per pick43cpaid-2.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked L1ga Team42c196.92$83 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$82.521,06657%608 W · 458 L+52.7wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+1.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xbf69…4fa2backed L1ga Team20c172$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.653634%182 W · 354 L+11.4wins+0.02per pick32cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd206…bd2abacked PARIVISION66c169.4$112 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.7715957.2%91 W · 68 L+8.3wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+10.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x8935…7daabacked PARIVISION72c161.52$117 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.61,15447.7%550 W · 604 L-12.7wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-12.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xce7a…fef0backed L1ga Team15c160.05$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.5819145.5%87 W · 104 L+13.9wins+0.07per pick38cpaid+8.5%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x3e51…71d4backed L1ga Team37c148.65$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$554949%24 W · 25 L-1.5wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-7.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb7e0…0d8abacked L1ga Team41c138.22$57 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.8726958.7%158 W · 111 L-7.2wins-0.03per pick61cpaid-6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3621…2d2dbacked PARIVISION73c134.92$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.195558.2%32 W · 23 L+7.6wins+0.14per pick44cpaid+65.4%equal weight61+0.09 edge/pick
0xa9e4…7161backed L1ga Team39c127.32$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50911.1%1 W · 8 L-1.9wins-0.21per pick32cpaid-66.5%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x53f9…e920backed L1ga Team35c126.95$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$454440.9%18 W · 26 L-4.0wins-0.09per pick50cpaid-19.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x9524…58f0backed L1ga Team24c125.08$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.2wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-13.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x209e…8bb4backed L1ga Team16c120.38$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.2680544.6%359 W · 446 L-25.8wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-8.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x664a…fc5fbacked PARIVISION72c114.01$83 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31.4725143.4%109 W · 142 L-5.2wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-22.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed L1ga Team17c112.5$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.1365647.3%310 W · 346 L-8.0wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-8.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x913c…39b3backed L1ga Team36c107.61$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.0971454.5%389 W · 325 L+55.6wins+0.08per pick47cpaid+7.9%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked L1ga Team13c103.85$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.5779341.7%331 W · 462 L-13.3wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-16.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3f08…e919backed L1ga Team20c102.08$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2030834.1%105 W · 203 L-4.0wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-12.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x59e2…1c55backed PARIVISION76c101.68$77 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.4147548%228 W · 247 L-10.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-12%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x180c…cd04backed PARIVISION61c100$61 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$38.5743738.4%168 W · 269 L-1.8wins0.00per pick39cpaid-8.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf98b…57bbbacked PARIVISION59c100$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4141864.1%268 W · 150 L+17.2wins+0.04per pick60cpaid+6.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xc49b…70c0backed PARIVISION63c100$63 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3763032.5%205 W · 425 L+1.4wins0.00per pick32cpaid-22.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0702…e5eabacked L1ga Team36c100$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3640745.5%185 W · 222 L-1.9wins0.00per pick46cpaid-4.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6e44…21bcbacked PARIVISION65c96.53$63 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33.9879859%471 W · 327 L+16.1wins+0.02per pick57cpaid-2.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked PARIVISION75c88.99$66 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22.612,37847.2%1,123 W · 1,255 L+15.8wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked L1ga Team25c87.74$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21.941,90147.6%905 W · 996 L+4.6wins0.00per pick47cpaid-6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd306…463dbacked PARIVISION71c85.07$60 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.0715461.7%95 W · 59 L-3.7wins-0.02per pick64cpaid-7.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa07d…a037backed L1ga Team36c79.83$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28.691,03416.3%169 W · 865 L-158.1wins-0.15per pick32cpaid-51%equal weight33-0.15 edge/pick
0x0c99…8e7ebacked PARIVISION54c79.06$43 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.3733854.1%183 W · 155 L+11.7wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+8.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3066…693abacked PARIVISION52c76.92$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.9254648.5%265 W · 281 L-0.4wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x29a5…a3c4backed L1ga Team21c72.38$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.8527357.1%156 W · 117 L+9.7wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+1.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9f42…1f72backed PARIVISION56c69.98$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30.7931865.1%207 W · 111 L+7.5wins+0.02per pick63cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4d85…2560backed L1ga Team37c69.93$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.627954.4%43 W · 36 L+1.2wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdcb8…6b51backed L1ga Team16c67$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.0142053.6%225 W · 195 L+16.6wins+0.04per pick50cpaid-1.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5929…4684backed PARIVISION78c64.67$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.231,26049.7%626 W · 634 L+21.7wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-5.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x83c8…3b6cbacked L1ga Team21c59.52$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.591356.1%512 W · 401 L+16.2wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+0.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2b73…174ebacked PARIVISION80c57.2$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.445745.6%26 W · 31 L-3.9wins-0.07per pick52cpaid-16.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xcc30…c8a5backed L1ga Team38c52.7$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20.0323529.4%69 W · 166 L-21.5wins-0.09per pick39cpaid-26.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x1791…3e87backed L1ga Team34c52.69$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17.9114652.1%76 W · 70 L-2.8wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-9.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7e3e…a78abacked PARIVISION63c51$32 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.8741244.7%184 W · 228 L-10.3wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-8.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xda47…c2e9backed PARIVISION61c48.93$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.9311858.5%69 W · 49 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick59cpaid-7.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x86c8…fc02backed PARIVISION63c47.37$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17.3730647.4%145 W · 161 L-2.4wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-9.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3e2d…fb60backed PARIVISION64c40$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.450444%222 W · 282 L-7.4wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-7.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x1c67…a479backed PARIVISION55c39.99$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$189956.6%56 W · 43 L-0.2wins0.00per pick57cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7c82…5a52backed PARIVISION61c38.62$24 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15.0623459%138 W · 96 L+9.1wins+0.04per pick55cpaid+6.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x127e…cca1backed PARIVISION61c36.83$23 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.3346150.8%234 W · 227 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-6.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xea32…7060backed PARIVISION55c30.89$17 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13.92100%2 W · 0 L+0.9wins+0.45per pick55cpaid+80.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.