Premier League · resolved market
Fulham FC vs. Liverpool FC: Both Teams to Score
https://tailmypicks.com/m/0xeda2ad0ab281e4873b0afc0939b76b4572c84ebc31a04e446dc2990df35166e2
Rebuilt .
What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- Yesof Yes, No
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- Premier Leagueevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $23,432
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $27,549
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $23,432 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 81 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Premier League is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in Premier League | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0x204f…5e14backed No | 39c | 5,122$2,014 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$2,013.89 | 6,117 | 45.8%2,803 W · 3,314 L | -28.6wins | 0.00per pick | 46cpaid | -12.4%equal weight | 490.00 edge/pick |
| 0xe60a…6a47backed Yes | 56c | 2,590$1,452 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,137.58 | 1,212 | 41.7%505 W · 707 L | -1.6wins | 0.00per pick | 42cpaid | -1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x478f…f5d9backed Yes | 58c | 1,715$1,000 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$714.61 | 24 | 25%6 W · 18 L | -1.1wins | -0.04per pick | 29cpaid | -42.8%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x76ed…fa48backed Yes | 56c | 1,430$801 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$629.2 | 16 | 62.5%10 W · 6 L | +1.8wins | +0.11per pick | 51cpaid | +23.5%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x1d94…9100backed No | 45c | 1,192$530 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$530.46 | 1,264 | 33.7%426 W · 838 L | +13.1wins | +0.01per pick | 33cpaid | -1.7%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x908a…ad16backed No | 44c | 1,006$441 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$440.57 | 1,224 | 40%490 W · 734 L | -24.3wins | -0.02per pick | 42cpaid | -15.4%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x7298…fe8dbacked No | 45c | 982.49$442 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$442.12 | 192 | 39.1%75 W · 117 L | +5.4wins | +0.03per pick | 36cpaid | +5.6%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x0fae…3488backed No | 34c | 982.35$334 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$333.7 | 23 | 47.8%11 W · 12 L | -0.6wins | -0.03per pick | 50cpaid | -10.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x1867…92cabacked No | 46c | 896$412 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$412.16 | 370 | 54.9%203 W · 167 L | +15.9wins | +0.04per pick | 51cpaid | +13.3%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x52b7…d3dcbacked Yes | 54c | 896$484 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$412.16 | 34 | 41.2%14 W · 20 L | -3.2wins | -0.10per pick | 51cpaid | -18.9%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xc443…359bbacked Yes | 57c | 804.26$458 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$345.83 | 141 | 38.3%54 W · 87 L | -8.8wins | -0.06per pick | 45cpaid | -18.7%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x5818…15edbacked Yes | 72c | 630.39$454 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$176.78 | 3 | 100%3 W · 0 L | +1.0wins | +0.32per pick | 68cpaid | +47.8%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf055…02b5backed No | 52c | 576.92$300 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$300 | 14 | 57.1%8 W · 6 L | +1.4wins | +0.10per pick | 47cpaid | +21.1%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x77bc…b91bbacked No | 43c | 552.45$239 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$238.69 | 1,934 | 42.4%820 W · 1,114 L | -43.1wins | -0.02per pick | 45cpaid | -18%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x9731…9b35backed No | 45c | 545.55$243 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$243.03 | 1,006 | 46.6%469 W · 537 L | -20.5wins | -0.02per pick | 49cpaid | -5.7%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xdbb9…ed8dbacked No | 41c | 523.69$215 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$214.71 | 492 | 54.9%270 W · 222 L | +5.4wins | +0.01per pick | 54cpaid | +6.5%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xd120…19fcbacked Yes | 79c | 507.13$400 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$107.13 | 32 | 34.4%11 W · 21 L | -5.0wins | -0.16per pick | 50cpaid | -32.8%equal weight | 40-0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x97b5…42f9backed Yes | 57c | 500$285 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$215 | 127 | 46.5%59 W · 68 L | +0.1wins | 0.00per pick | 46cpaid | +3.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x2aa1…dba8backed Yes | 56c | 446.43$250 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$196.43 | 95 | 51.6%49 W · 46 L | -2.8wins | -0.03per pick | 55cpaid | -5.5%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xb0d7…f9fabacked Yes | 55c | 408.69$227 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$182.01 | 118 | 46.6%55 W · 63 L | -6.2wins | -0.05per pick | 52cpaid | -18.4%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xba26…23c9backed No | 43c | 399.99$172 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$171.99 | 391 | 56%219 W · 172 L | +12.8wins | +0.03per pick | 53cpaid | +10.8%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x84d9…76dbbacked Yes | 57c | 350.88$200 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$150.88 | 50 | 36%18 W · 32 L | -4.4wins | -0.09per pick | 45cpaid | -23.5%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xefde…783dbacked Yes | 54c | 300$162 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$138 | 18 | 38.9%7 W · 11 L | -0.1wins | -0.01per pick | 40cpaid | -29.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x6562…4e48backed Yes | 71c | 294.31$210 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$84.31 | 252 | 56%141 W · 111 L | -3.0wins | -0.01per pick | 57cpaid | -6.2%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x3c82…b56bbacked Yes | 52c | 262.42$136 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$125.96 | 95 | 49.5%47 W · 48 L | -2.5wins | -0.03per pick | 52cpaid | +1.8%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x918e…c648backed No | 24c | 250$60 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$60 | 7 | 28.6%2 W · 5 L | -0.7wins | -0.10per pick | 39cpaid | -36%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x6ac5…4b6ebacked No | 42c | 214.72$90 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$89.79 | 517 | 50.1%259 W · 258 L | +19.4wins | +0.04per pick | 46cpaid | +10.5%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x4d16…4e1fbacked Yes | 53c | 188.68$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$88.68 | 74 | 63.5%47 W · 27 L | -0.1wins | 0.00per pick | 64cpaid | +3.5%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x8c22…70a0backed No | 45c | 179.85$81 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$81.22 | 48 | 43.8%21 W · 27 L | +0.6wins | +0.01per pick | 43cpaid | +3.1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x2358…8986backed Yes | 56c | 178.43$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$78.51 | 15 | 80%12 W · 3 L | +2.3wins | +0.15per pick | 65cpaid | +31.1%equal weight | 56+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x65ec…8e4bbacked Yes | 57c | 175.44$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$75.44 | 69 | 42%29 W · 40 L | +1.9wins | +0.03per pick | 39cpaid | +12.3%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xa4bd…e8a2backed Yes | 69c | 174.08$120 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$54.21 | 891 | 52.9%471 W · 420 L | -4.5wins | -0.01per pick | 53cpaid | -9.5%equal weight | 490.00 edge/pick |
| 0xf7cd…0888backed No | 47c | 173.68$82 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$81.58 | 36 | 33.3%12 W · 24 L | -5.4wins | -0.15per pick | 48cpaid | -29.5%equal weight | 40-0.09 edge/pick |
| 0xa51b…d6f0backed Yes | 57c | 154.39$88 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$66.39 | 27 | 44.4%12 W · 15 L | -2.5wins | -0.09per pick | 54cpaid | -18.2%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x3a56…387cbacked No | 27c | 141.13$38 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$38.45 | 290 | 41.7%121 W · 169 L | -9.4wins | -0.03per pick | 45cpaid | -23.8%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xa178…11a2backed Yes | 56c | 133.93$75 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$58.93 | 353 | 47.6%168 W · 185 L | -15.9wins | -0.04per pick | 52cpaid | -4.3%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xf36f…e5b8backed Yes | 58c | 129.53$75 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$54.52 | 63 | 44.4%28 W · 35 L | -5.5wins | -0.09per pick | 53cpaid | -18.5%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xe903…f8e1backed Yes | 56c | 125$70 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$55 | 32 | 65.6%21 W · 11 L | +3.8wins | +0.12per pick | 54cpaid | +25.2%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x58c8…0300backed No | 45c | 115.25$52 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$51.89 | 577 | 44.4%256 W · 321 L | -6.7wins | -0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -17.6%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xedc6…314abacked Yes | 56c | 107.14$60 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$47.14 | 55 | 54.5%30 W · 25 L | -0.6wins | -0.01per pick | 56cpaid | -3.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe48c…163abacked Yes | 49c | 102.04$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$52.04 | 206 | 44.7%92 W · 114 L | -10.8wins | -0.05per pick | 50cpaid | -11.7%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x3a40…afaabacked Yes | 56c | 89.07$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$39.07 | 94 | 44.7%42 W · 52 L | -7.2wins | -0.08per pick | 52cpaid | -17.2%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xb166…3105backed No | 45c | 88.89$40 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$40 | 184 | 49.5%91 W · 93 L | +1.3wins | +0.01per pick | 49cpaid | +1.7%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xb69f…3c2bbacked Yes | 57c | 87.72$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$37.72 | 81 | 54.3%44 W · 37 L | -0.7wins | -0.01per pick | 55cpaid | -1.6%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe4bd…06d4backed Yes | 57c | 87.72$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$37.72 | 37 | 40.5%15 W · 22 L | -0.3wins | -0.01per pick | 41cpaid | +0.3%equal weight | 490.00 edge/pick |
| 0x5339…9da3backed Yes | 71c | 81.11$57 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$23.71 | 240 | 62.5%150 W · 90 L | +4.4wins | +0.02per pick | 61cpaid | +3.4%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xe92d…bffcbacked Yes | 56c | 71.43$40 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$31.43 | 7 | 57.1%4 W · 3 L | -0.2wins | -0.03per pick | 60cpaid | -2.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x8a3a…d5b0backed Yes | 57c | 70.07$40 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$30.13 | 18 | 61.1%11 W · 7 L | +0.4wins | +0.02per pick | 59cpaid | +1.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xac7a…414fbacked No | 29c | 68.97$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 33 | 45.5%15 W · 18 L | -0.9wins | -0.03per pick | 48cpaid | -3.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x2005…75eabacked No | 37c | 56.72$21 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20.75 | 4,744 | 41.8%1,983 W · 2,761 L | +28.2wins | +0.01per pick | 41cpaid | -14.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0a92…5a5ebacked Yes | 67c | 53.44$36 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$17.44 | 25 | 56%14 W · 11 L | +0.5wins | +0.02per pick | 54cpaid | +6%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0599…3490backed Yes | 80c | 50$40 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10 | 38 | 44.7%17 W · 21 L | -3.6wins | -0.10per pick | 54cpaid | -25%equal weight | 44-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xdbcb…1879backed Yes | 51c | 49$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$24.01 | 31 | 38.7%12 W · 19 L | -3.1wins | -0.10per pick | 49cpaid | -18.7%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x79eb…4324backed No | 30c | 47.33$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14 | 2 | 50%1 W · 1 L | +0.2wins | +0.11per pick | 39cpaid | +2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe6cd…e027backed Yes | 54c | 47$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$21.62 | 56 | 46.4%26 W · 30 L | -0.8wins | -0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -1.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x2c97…c20bbacked Yes | 56c | 44.64$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.64 | 317 | 46.1%146 W · 171 L | -4.4wins | -0.01per pick | 47cpaid | +2%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x3b43…fae9backed No | 48c | 43.54$21 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20.9 | 21 | 47.6%10 W · 11 L | -0.8wins | -0.04per pick | 51cpaid | -4.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x7181…1b0abacked Yes | 55c | 40$22 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$18 | 80 | 48.8%39 W · 41 L | -7.1wins | -0.09per pick | 58cpaid | -15.6%equal weight | 43-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xf7d2…f555backed Yes | 54c | 40$22 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$18.4 | 182 | 60.4%110 W · 72 L | -4.4wins | -0.02per pick | 63cpaid | -1.3%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x9d73…be4fbacked Yes | 51c | 39.22$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.22 | 222 | 44.1%98 W · 124 L | +19.0wins | +0.09per pick | 36cpaid | +36.3%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x3fb4…d481backed Yes | 54c | 36.84$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.84 | 53 | 49.1%26 W · 27 L | -0.7wins | -0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -7.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x3308…6834backed Yes | 55c | 36.52$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.52 | 31 | 45.2%14 W · 17 L | -0.7wins | -0.02per pick | 47cpaid | -20.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x3a30…34b1backed Yes | 55c | 36.36$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.36 | 8 | 75%6 W · 2 L | +1.0wins | +0.13per pick | 62cpaid | +22.3%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x9d00…a6f3backed Yes | 55c | 36.36$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.36 | 56 | 44.6%25 W · 31 L | -3.2wins | -0.06per pick | 50cpaid | -19.9%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x1d66…0e16backed Yes | 56c | 35.71$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.71 | 139 | 51.1%71 W · 68 L | +6.0wins | +0.04per pick | 47cpaid | +16.4%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x380c…1099backed Yes | 56c | 35.71$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.71 | 180 | 59.4%107 W · 73 L | -6.9wins | -0.04per pick | 63cpaid | -7.9%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xbd8f…9a78backed Yes | 57c | 35.09$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.09 | 38 | 47.4%18 W · 20 L | -2.3wins | -0.06per pick | 53cpaid | -11.5%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x4a4b…bbcabacked Yes | 57c | 35.09$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.09 | 556 | 54.9%305 W · 251 L | +8.0wins | +0.01per pick | 53cpaid | +2%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x5f78…bfcabacked No | 44c | 34.5$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15.18 | 67 | 35.8%24 W · 43 L | -2.3wins | -0.03per pick | 39cpaid | -34.6%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xf27e…d69dbacked Yes | 54c | 34.5$19 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$15.87 | 13 | 46.2%6 W · 7 L | -0.3wins | -0.02per pick | 48cpaid | -10.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa23f…a64ebacked Yes | 56c | 30.36$17 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13.36 | 139 | 54%75 W · 64 L | +1.5wins | +0.01per pick | 53cpaid | +1.7%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0684…d593backed Yes | 56c | 30$17 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13.2 | 148 | 60.1%89 W · 59 L | +9.4wins | +0.06per pick | 54cpaid | +12.7%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x397d…794fbacked Yes | 65c | 29.23$19 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.23 | 4 | 100%4 W · 0 L | +1.5wins | +0.37per pick | 63cpaid | +57.6%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x98d0…01a4backed Yes | 54c | 27.78$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.78 | 217 | 47.9%104 W · 113 L | -8.8wins | -0.04per pick | 52cpaid | -10%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xb779…ab22backed Yes | 56c | 26.79$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$11.79 | 64 | 46.9%30 W · 34 L | -4.9wins | -0.08per pick | 55cpaid | -18%equal weight | 44-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xb985…cf92backed Yes | 55c | 26.64$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$11.99 | 39 | 59%23 W · 16 L | -0.8wins | -0.02per pick | 61cpaid | -9.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x62cc…f56fbacked Yes | 59c | 25.42$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.42 | 40 | 47.5%19 W · 21 L | +1.8wins | +0.04per pick | 43cpaid | +7.9%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x7a01…9320backed Yes | 56c | 22.95$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.1 | 12 | 41.7%5 W · 7 L | -1.2wins | -0.10per pick | 52cpaid | -23%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xbad6…9963backed Yes | 66c | 22$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7.48 | 22 | 54.5%12 W · 10 L | -1.6wins | -0.07per pick | 62cpaid | -12.8%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xe900…7937backed Yes | 57c | 20$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8.6 | 26 | 61.5%16 W · 10 L | +2.0wins | +0.08per pick | 54cpaid | +12.7%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x8816…7082backed Yes | 56c | 20$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8.8 | 142 | 52.8%75 W · 67 L | -2.4wins | -0.02per pick | 55cpaid | -4.6%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Premier League and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 6 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Fulham FC vs. Liverpool FC: Both Teams to Scorethis page
- Fulham FC vs. Liverpool FC: O/U 1.5Over won
- Fulham FC vs. Liverpool FC: O/U 2.5Over won
- Fulham FC vs. Liverpool FC: O/U 3.5Over won
- Fulham FC vs. Liverpool FC: O/U 4.5Under won
- Spread: Liverpool FC (-1.5)Fulham FC won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.