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Dota2 · resolved market

Dota 2: Aurora vs Team Yandex - Game 1 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Team Yandexof Aurora, Team Yandex
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Dota2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$588,686
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$738,103

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $588,686 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 296 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Dota2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Dota2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xe16d…5e30backed Aurora43c120,584$51,279 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51,278.611,21057.1%691 W · 519 L+44.5wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+4.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8ff1…2dd7backed Team Yandex57c21,600$12,312 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,2883348.5%16 W · 17 L-0.9wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-7.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xadea…b96dbacked Aurora15c17,300$2,680 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,679.59731.4%1 W · 72 L-7.1wins-0.10per pick11cpaid-91.9%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x19ae…395cbacked Aurora15c16,541$2,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,40031936.7%117 W · 202 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-5.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6b60…edbebacked Team Yandex57c14,400$8,208 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,1924837.5%18 W · 30 L-7.9wins-0.16per pick54cpaid-31.8%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0xc75a…1ab2backed Aurora4c14,250$630 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$629.9640014.8%59 W · 341 L+11.2wins+0.03per pick12cpaid-1.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9166…b479backed Team Yandex56c12,737$7,159 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,578.8812348%59 W · 64 L-4.6wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8c7d…83edbacked Team Yandex57c12,000$6,840 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,1601844.4%8 W · 10 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+9.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4572…83ffbacked Team Yandex62c11,346$7,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,345.6353451.7%276 W · 258 L+2.3wins0.00per pick51cpaid-0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7993…cf5abacked Team Yandex73c11,263$8,178 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,084.642962.1%18 W · 11 L-1.4wins-0.05per pick67cpaid-9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x05a7…42e6backed Team Yandex61c10,766$6,521 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,244.0641056.8%233 W · 177 L+5.2wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdc40…89cfbacked Team Yandex57c10,000$5,700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,30036041.4%149 W · 211 L-22.2wins-0.06per pick48cpaid-12.7%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x86b1…c094backed Aurora4c9,796$418 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$418.4965625.6%168 W · 488 L+14.7wins+0.02per pick23cpaid-1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf4d2…629cbacked Team Yandex65c9,180$6,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,180.41643.8%7 W · 9 L-0.9wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-17.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xf3ce…a57abacked Team Yandex61c8,143$4,937 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,205.541,20259.3%713 W · 489 L+64.6wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+10.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x66b1…6b9dbacked Team Yandex79c7,274$5,738 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,536.299339.8%37 W · 56 L-0.4wins0.00per pick40cpaid-19.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked Aurora43c7,100$3,065 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,065.1280256%449 W · 353 L+22.9wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x491d…f42bbacked Team Yandex64c7,053$4,505 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,548.0739660.1%238 W · 158 L+8.5wins+0.02per pick58cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3eb3…4d75backed Team Yandex78c7,039$5,490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,548.5611753%62 W · 55 L-2.1wins-0.02per pick55cpaid-4.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xfa88…85a5backed Aurora39c5,809$2,249 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,249.4169644.5%310 W · 386 L-3.1wins0.00per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xad69…7397backed Team Yandex57c5,750$3,292 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,458.3251140.3%206 W · 305 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4c9c…e006backed Team Yandex61c5,715$3,478 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,236.4622663.3%143 W · 83 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick62cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x04f6…f24abacked Aurora19c5,227$990 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$990.4850347.1%237 W · 266 L+14.9wins+0.03per pick44cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1b08…053bbacked Team Yandex65c4,590$2,985 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,605.022138.1%8 W · 13 L-1.6wins-0.08per pick46cpaid-23.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2c63…0ca5backed Aurora43c4,538$1,951 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,951.421936.8%7 W · 12 L-0.5wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-11.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd6f5…f3b5backed Aurora37c4,455$1,648 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,648.318351.9%95 W · 88 L-6.8wins-0.04per pick56cpaid-7.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked Team Yandex64c4,315$2,752 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,563.511,06657%608 W · 458 L+52.7wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+1.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xc1de…21f5backed Aurora35c4,000$1,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,40030452.3%159 W · 145 L+20.1wins+0.07per pick46cpaid+13.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x72d5…d5eabacked Team Yandex57c3,840$2,189 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,651.2728.6%2 W · 5 L-2.0wins-0.29per pick58cpaid-55.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x6373…a0b7backed Aurora22c3,828$839 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$838.5714825%37 W · 111 L-6.9wins-0.05per pick30cpaid-2.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5a05…12a2backed Team Yandex72c3,338$2,419 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$918.7647650.8%242 W · 234 L+16.6wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-1.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x31a4…7afcbacked Team Yandex57c3,253$1,849 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,40495342.2%402 W · 551 L-20.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x74e9…7269backed Aurora3c3,200$93 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$934717%8 W · 39 L-2.6wins-0.05per pick22cpaid-23.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xa21b…e4e4backed Aurora44c3,105$1,355 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,355.483633.3%12 W · 24 L-4.1wins-0.11per pick45cpaid-27.8%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0xf23c…9f81backed Aurora39c3,025$1,180 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,179.912676.9%20 W · 6 L+5.8wins+0.22per pick55cpaid+41.9%equal weight63+0.11 edge/pick
0x4214…db99backed Aurora21c3,000$635 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$634.8136343.3%157 W · 206 L+2.6wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x568b…4727backed Team Yandex59c3,000$1,770 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,2301442.9%6 W · 8 L-1.2wins-0.09per pick52cpaid-16.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x08cf…22b9backed Team Yandex58c3,000$1,740 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,259.9953758.8%316 W · 221 L+0.2wins0.00per pick59cpaid-4.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x49ea…36cdbacked Team Yandex59c2,884$1,697 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,186.283250%16 W · 16 L-3.4wins-0.11per pick61cpaid-18.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x266e…90f3backed Aurora26c2,664$697 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$696.829968.7%68 W · 31 L+12.4wins+0.13per pick56cpaid+9.8%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0xbbd9…de31backed Team Yandex78c2,559$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$559.2814258.5%83 W · 59 L-2.9wins-0.02per pick61cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4905…1683backed Aurora20c2,405$473 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$473.374843.8%21 W · 27 L-2.9wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-25.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x76fc…d3adbacked Aurora21c2,403$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5002142.9%9 W · 12 L-1.3wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-12.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x60d0…e05fbacked Aurora12c2,375$285 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28541242.2%174 W · 238 L-0.4wins0.00per pick42cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd4f9…0a00backed Team Yandex59c2,033$1,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$833.319158.2%53 W · 38 L+2.6wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+8.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1568…2a89backed Aurora22c2,000$440 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4409122%20 W · 71 L-3.5wins-0.04per pick26cpaid-31.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x930e…38cfbacked Aurora3c2,000$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6037018.9%70 W · 300 L+3.5wins+0.01per pick18cpaid-24%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0af2…a2bbbacked Team Yandex59c2,000$1,180 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8205745.6%26 W · 31 L-3.8wins-0.07per pick52cpaid-7.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf148…0b4fbacked Aurora41c1,940$802 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$80216641%68 W · 98 L-10.8wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-17.2%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x068c…bce7backed Team Yandex56c1,912$1,070 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$841.086241.9%26 W · 36 L-2.7wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-7.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x80ba…2e78backed Aurora33c1,874$617 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$617.2388539.7%351 W · 534 L+7.7wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8154…7d37backed Aurora35c1,874$658 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$658.4220233.2%67 W · 135 L-3.9wins-0.02per pick35cpaid-2.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1365…c82abacked Aurora45c1,692$759 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$759.161456%344 W · 270 L+13.5wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+4.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xba03…0486backed Aurora36c1,677$599 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$599.157234.7%25 W · 47 L-4.0wins-0.06per pick40cpaid-9.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x7e01…b0b5backed Team Yandex60c1,667$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$666.6720642.7%88 W · 118 L-4.3wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-11.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x081c…5de0backed Aurora40c1,657$656 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$655.853619.4%7 W · 29 L-4.6wins-0.13per pick32cpaid-45.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xbb35…b62abacked Aurora28c1,649$460 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46039343.3%170 W · 223 L-6.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-11.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6bea…5d50backed Team Yandex76c1,613$1,226 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$387.3647748.6%232 W · 245 L+6.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x2d01…27cbbacked Aurora41c1,578$645 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6456744.8%30 W · 37 L-2.3wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-14%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3a09…f9f7backed Team Yandex55c1,554$855 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$699.356955.5%316 W · 253 L+22.1wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+6.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x3308…f04bbacked Team Yandex75c1,540$1,149 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$390.935850.6%181 W · 177 L+6.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid-10.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe45d…230dbacked Team Yandex70c1,513$1,059 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$453.772055%11 W · 9 L+0.3wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x377b…0446backed Aurora23c1,500$345 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3451040%4 W · 6 L+1.2wins+0.12per pick28cpaid+77.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8a38…fee0backed Team Yandex56c1,500$840 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66060349.9%301 W · 302 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x0c99…0c88backed Team Yandex63c1,500$939 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$560.961,16447.2%549 W · 615 L-29.1wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-9.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x93bd…bbc5backed Team Yandex69c1,480$1,026 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$453.6853764.4%346 W · 191 L+26.5wins+0.05per pick60cpaid+2.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x242c…ddd2backed Aurora13c1,347$176 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17621447.2%101 W · 113 L+16.7wins+0.08per pick39cpaid+11.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x16ce…eba1backed Aurora2c1,300$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.56132.1%13 W · 600 L-23.4wins-0.04per pick6cpaid-76.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x53b2…9f96backed Team Yandex68c1,297$888 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$408.998658.1%50 W · 36 L+2.6wins+0.03per pick55cpaid-3.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xdb55…51ddbacked Team Yandex68c1,282$871 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$411.7135960.4%217 W · 142 L-1.3wins0.00per pick61cpaid-5.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8dc5…c07dbacked Team Yandex57c1,276$728 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$547.6712263.1%77 W · 45 L+2.7wins+0.02per pick61cpaid+4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0ef6…01a9backed Aurora14c1,269$182 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$182.052733.3%9 W · 18 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-15.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x180c…cd04backed Aurora39c1,262$492 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$492.2143738.4%168 W · 269 L-1.8wins0.00per pick39cpaid-8.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8495…550ebacked Team Yandex59c1,221$723 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$498.159052.2%47 W · 43 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-7.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9fcc…ee29backed Aurora34c1,138$387 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$387.1817451.7%90 W · 84 L+4.4wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x28e0…2e6bbacked Aurora35c1,131$398 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$397.7213258.3%77 W · 55 L+6.6wins+0.05per pick53cpaid+12.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xa7e2…9e36backed Aurora38c1,117$429 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$428.512766.7%18 W · 9 L+4.8wins+0.18per pick49cpaid+39.2%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x958c…a328backed Aurora43c1,074$462 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$461.8228347%133 W · 150 L+10.9wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+9.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd1d9…a1b2backed Team Yandex57c1,060$604 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$455.81560%3 W · 2 L+0.5wins+0.10per pick50cpaid+12.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdbaf…f5d1backed Aurora42c1,051$441 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$441.3935737%132 W · 225 L-9.9wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-5.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe922…39b3backed Team Yandex58c1,022$593 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$429.3141351.8%214 W · 199 L+1.0wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1b9a…a06bbacked Aurora2c1,000$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2037811.1%42 W · 336 L+0.8wins0.00per pick11cpaid-21.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0bc2…077bbacked Aurora10c1,000$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1008450%42 W · 42 L+1.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+7.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x1f79…434abacked Aurora33c999.99$331 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33149644.6%221 W · 275 L+13.5wins+0.03per pick42cpaid-6.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xcbba…dbffbacked Aurora12c999.99$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.73040%12 W · 18 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-13.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x08b8…e7dabacked Team Yandex57c942.89$537 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$405.4431055.2%171 W · 139 L+12.0wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+8.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb758…4699backed Aurora13c941.61$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119.834240.5%17 W · 25 L-3.0wins-0.07per pick48cpaid-35.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xb52d…571dbacked Aurora33c929.05$307 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$306.5920%0 W · 2 L-0.7wins-0.34per pick34cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4a77…e59dbacked Aurora10c928.31$93 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92.522031.8%70 W · 150 L-4.1wins-0.02per pick34cpaid-31.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1f6a…599abacked Aurora40c888$355 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$355.159061.1%55 W · 35 L+10.7wins+0.12per pick49cpaid+8.9%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x8a2b…9e83backed Team Yandex60c883$530 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$353.218446.7%86 W · 98 L+3.5wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x01e9…03bbbacked Team Yandex57c877.19$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$377.192259.1%13 W · 9 L+2.9wins+0.13per pick46cpaid+23.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x274f…971abacked Aurora47c853.19$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40014657.5%84 W · 62 L+0.2wins0.00per pick57cpaid-5.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb66c…a0f5backed Aurora42c847.33$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36022260.4%134 W · 88 L+6.3wins+0.03per pick58cpaid+4.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xca93…3c97backed Team Yandex60c822.03$494 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$328.293455.9%19 W · 15 L-0.8wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-5.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe361…ae44backed Team Yandex56c800$448 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35231547.6%150 W · 165 L+4.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7ba7…9c8abacked Aurora25c800$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2008020%16 W · 64 L-3.0wins-0.04per pick24cpaid-28.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6c58…7ee8backed Aurora13c799.96$104 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$104147.1%1 W · 13 L-1.4wins-0.10per pick17cpaid-67.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x48ba…d81dbacked Team Yandex72c792.54$568 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$224.0656343.9%247 W · 316 L-1.9wins0.00per pick44cpaid-10.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x994e…6136backed Team Yandex57c783$446 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$336.692653.8%14 W · 12 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick52cpaid-6.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Dota2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 7 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.