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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: Natus Vincere vs FURIA - Map 1 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Natus Vincereof Natus Vincere, FURIA
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$210,357
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$278,626

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $210,357 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 187 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x67bb…b6efbacked Natus Vincere62c22,986$14,204 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,782.2276058%441 W · 319 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick58cpaid-1.4%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x1196…fe97backed FURIA22c14,258$3,192 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,192.046634.8%23 W · 43 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick34cpaid-14%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9fe1…4d7fbacked Natus Vincere58c9,750$5,695 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,055.825641.1%23 W · 33 L-3.8wins-0.07per pick48cpaid-21.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xdbb3…76a9backed FURIA39c9,374$3,624 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,624.3539248.7%191 W · 201 L+5.8wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-12.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed FURIA31c6,202$1,933 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,933.322,06641.5%858 W · 1,208 L-49.5wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-16.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8f69…7df1backed FURIA42c6,000$2,520 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,52075450.5%381 W · 373 L+17.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+1.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa2e9…a86ebacked Natus Vincere63c5,259$3,309 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,950.6519355.4%107 W · 86 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1ca5…9988backed FURIA0c4,760$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20.6520%1 W · 4 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick22cpaid-27.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb9ab…f282backed Natus Vincere55c4,489$2,449 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,0401,08150.9%550 W · 531 L+37.9wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+5.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x2a2c…9bc1backed FURIA41c3,761$1,542 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,542.0522049.1%108 W · 112 L+0.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6b1e…65c1backed FURIA18c3,378$599 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$598.538938.2%34 W · 55 L-1.7wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-10.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x12d9…01bbbacked FURIA32c3,065$971 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$970.5861228.9%177 W · 435 L-9.2wins-0.01per pick30cpaid-13.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked FURIA40c2,892$1,157 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,157.121,05449%516 W · 538 L+38.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-10.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked FURIA42c2,870$1,210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,210.011,25646.7%587 W · 669 L+17.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-16%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked FURIA43c2,324$997 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$996.81,51357.2%865 W · 648 L+65.4wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+0.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x03f4…7e44backed FURIA41c2,055$849 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$849.2651252.3%268 W · 244 L+16.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xaa6c…a9b3backed Natus Vincere58c1,824$1,060 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$764.761,16354.3%631 W · 532 L-38.8wins-0.03per pick58cpaid-6.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe4e5…d034backed FURIA41c1,799$738 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$737.5713044.6%58 W · 72 L-2.6wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-9.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Natus Vincere75c1,713$1,289 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$424.184,03848.1%1,943 W · 2,095 L-23.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1b9a…a06bbacked FURIA5c1,579$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.3969624%167 W · 529 L+2.2wins0.00per pick24cpaid-7.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x802b…7d57backed FURIA44c1,568$690 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$690.038032.5%26 W · 54 L-6.6wins-0.08per pick41cpaid-31.1%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xf8a8…48c0backed FURIA45c1,553$699 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$699.0325251.2%129 W · 123 L+0.6wins0.00per pick51cpaid-6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed Natus Vincere55c1,539$844 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$694.8787047.9%417 W · 453 L+15.6wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-14%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4a5e…8fd0backed Natus Vincere64c1,447$931 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$516.4922444.2%99 W · 125 L-16.0wins-0.07per pick51cpaid-20.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xa9ca…6a8bbacked FURIA44c1,428$628 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$628.1675245.5%342 W · 410 L-21.8wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-6.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2924…0f31backed Natus Vincere78c1,291$1,011 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$280.2449646.6%231 W · 265 L+1.6wins0.00per pick46cpaid-17.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x473f…9892backed FURIA12c1,250$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15020344.3%90 W · 113 L-4.4wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-9.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1c83…6f40backed FURIA44c1,095$483 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$483.2437445.7%171 W · 203 L-29.6wins-0.08per pick54cpaid-15.4%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked FURIA38c1,033$389 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$388.931,61145.4%731 W · 880 L+30.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-14.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x09a0…dc24backed FURIA41c1,000$410 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4102835.7%10 W · 18 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-14.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x255f…cd91backed Natus Vincere57c999.99$570 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4308947.2%42 W · 47 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6df5…6430backed FURIA26c971.17$256 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$256.181,27821.9%280 W · 998 L-24.3wins-0.02per pick24cpaid-16.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed FURIA37c962.01$356 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$355.9488746.7%414 W · 473 L+8.9wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-15.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8c14…d8fbbacked Natus Vincere70c909.2$639 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.2517357.2%99 W · 74 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-7.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed Natus Vincere55c851.25$468 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$383.0646749.7%232 W · 235 L-12.4wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-6.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1c93…33d5backed FURIA49c843.43$411 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$411.3648437.6%182 W · 302 L+13.7wins+0.03per pick35cpaid+42%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5b14…039bbacked Natus Vincere64c818.03$527 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$291.0211871.2%84 W · 34 L+10.2wins+0.09per pick63cpaid+12.7%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x845a…c09bbacked Natus Vincere57c792.61$451 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$341.581060%6 W · 4 L+0.8wins+0.08per pick52cpaid+12.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2761…4d95backed FURIA46c784.53$361 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$360.8852951.4%272 W · 257 L+23.5wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+9.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed FURIA12c784.15$93 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92.946,48042.9%2,782 W · 3,698 L-79.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x041b…d3ebbacked Natus Vincere65c753.08$490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$263.5831451.6%162 W · 152 L-6.9wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-8.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc5ac…2a18backed FURIA43c746.98$322 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$321.7225147.8%120 W · 131 L+9.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+10%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x2668…9555backed FURIA5c725.14$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.126518.5%12 W · 53 L-2.5wins-0.04per pick22cpaid+18.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3fc7…62b9backed FURIA41c700$287 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28732042.5%136 W · 184 L+11.0wins+0.03per pick39cpaid+7.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xc623…5808backed FURIA30c698.05$212 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$211.97333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.4wins-0.13per pick46cpaid-32%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xa623…a4febacked FURIA37c667.77$247 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$247.0740253.7%216 W · 186 L+25.1wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+0.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x7926…a4febacked FURIA7c587.95$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42.23158.1%18 W · 13 L+1.9wins+0.06per pick52cpaid-9.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3bae…885abacked Natus Vincere57c584.52$333 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$251.3427658%160 W · 116 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick57cpaid-0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3cf5…8483backed Natus Vincere63c572.01$360 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$211.6411061.8%68 W · 42 L+0.2wins0.00per pick62cpaid-0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfe8e…168abacked FURIA37c523.7$192 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$191.62250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-16.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd8d5…8935backed FURIA43c500$215 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2153250%16 W · 16 L-0.9wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc5ac…aa06backed Natus Vincere56c499.99$280 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2204645.7%21 W · 25 L0.0wins0.00per pick46cpaid-5.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0e1b…ecafbacked FURIA14c487.45$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.332,32851.1%1,189 W · 1,139 L+92.3wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+1.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x0018…e6fbbacked FURIA42c481.28$202 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$202.142774.1%20 W · 7 L+3.5wins+0.13per pick61cpaid+20%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x1064…f153backed FURIA15c474.5$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.1816149.1%79 W · 82 L+3.9wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+1.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x505f…645ebacked FURIA27c462.67$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$124.922,60452.6%1,371 W · 1,233 L+98.0wins+0.04per pick49cpaid-3.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x3f97…4059backed FURIA43c453.51$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$195.0146149.9%230 W · 231 L-1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked FURIA7c443.11$32 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32.133,09648.5%1,501 W · 1,595 L+135.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x791e…9bdabacked FURIA44c439.27$193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$193.2819346.1%89 W · 104 L+8.0wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+14.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x0cd9…2a08backed FURIA15c413.91$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.7221528.8%62 W · 153 L-10.1wins-0.05per pick34cpaid-19.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xdd88…dadbbacked Natus Vincere57c410.56$234 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$176.5464852%337 W · 311 L+10.6wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc9ea…59a1backed Natus Vincere57c393.1$224 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$169.0319238%73 W · 119 L-8.2wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-13.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x6c04…a593backed FURIA8c354.3$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28.3418426.1%48 W · 136 L-2.7wins-0.01per pick28cpaid-14.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x634a…6de3backed Natus Vincere57c341.82$195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$146.9842651.6%220 W · 206 L-12.3wins-0.03per pick55cpaid-7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xda54…63d4backed FURIA30c331.38$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.926634.8%23 W · 43 L-5.0wins-0.08per pick42cpaid-31.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x3741…517ebacked FURIA37c330$122 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122.119741.6%82 W · 115 L-7.6wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-14.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1db5…aee3backed FURIA18c327.7$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.951330.8%4 W · 9 L-2.3wins-0.18per pick49cpaid-57.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x4ec3…34a7backed FURIA38c323.66$123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$123.251,10950.5%560 W · 549 L-3.0wins0.00per pick51cpaid-7.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x72aa…90e0backed FURIA16c311.56$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.284,22849.2%2,080 W · 2,148 L+59.9wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xc4db…7e0cbacked FURIA40c300$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1201,57335.3%556 W · 1,017 L+22.5wins+0.01per pick34cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xe4dd…4f27backed Natus Vincere60c300$180 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12050947%239 W · 270 L+11.3wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+4.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbe2b…20e4backed FURIA9c283.62$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.539635.4%34 W · 62 L-4.8wins-0.05per pick40cpaid-25.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xfc99…ce7ebacked FURIA49c275.77$136 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$136.4818933.9%64 W · 125 L-8.6wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-15.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x40b3…9ef3backed Natus Vincere55c267.13$147 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$120.218053.8%43 W · 37 L+4.6wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+12.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x56fc…a1f1backed FURIA43c262.94$114 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$113.671428.6%4 W · 10 L-2.1wins-0.15per pick44cpaid-6.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xcc4e…c150backed Natus Vincere57c256.6$146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$110.3416856%94 W · 74 L-2.3wins-0.01per pick57cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0fe0…fb5bbacked FURIA5c250$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.541054.6%224 W · 186 L-2.0wins0.00per pick55cpaid-8.3%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x93fd…a5edbacked FURIA36c241.74$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87.587347.9%35 W · 38 L+2.6wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-0.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc104…5faabacked FURIA27c240.82$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65.028020%16 W · 64 L-7.5wins-0.09per pick29cpaid-36.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xa56f…ee5fbacked FURIA43c238.08$102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.372962.1%18 W · 11 L+0.5wins+0.02per pick60cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc42f…9390backed Natus Vincere57c232.44$132 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$99.954953.1%26 W · 23 L-2.4wins-0.05per pick58cpaid-0.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa430…c6f9backed Natus Vincere57c227.31$130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$97.743167.7%21 W · 10 L+2.6wins+0.08per pick59cpaid+17.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xcfaf…9206backed FURIA38c224.46$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$85.2921246.2%98 W · 114 L+4.6wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+2.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3e51…71d4backed Natus Vincere60c222.04$134 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.8917153.2%91 W · 80 L+3.8wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfa4e…5973backed FURIA17c219.11$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.027648.7%37 W · 39 L0.0wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x146c…b807backed FURIA45c216.48$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.6840048.8%195 W · 205 L-11.3wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-12.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0c99…0c88backed FURIA47c211.64$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.012,43444.6%1,085 W · 1,349 L-64.0wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-13.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe8e1…49ddbacked Natus Vincere61c202.92$125 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.131,39848.4%676 W · 722 L+11.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xae5e…13bebacked FURIA43c200$86 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8620248.5%98 W · 104 L+3.7wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-0.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa76e…dcb6backed Natus Vincere52c199.99$104 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$961,31053.7%703 W · 607 L+32.0wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x9fc8…f527backed FURIA35c199.99$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7048826.2%128 W · 360 L-44.3wins-0.09per pick35cpaid-30.3%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x7a14…d748backed Natus Vincere67c196.44$132 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.8257358.8%337 W · 236 L+16.1wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+1.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf68e…85e5backed Natus Vincere74c195.16$145 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.121464.3%9 W · 5 L+0.3wins+0.02per pick62cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2a8c…fd3dbacked FURIA12c192.18$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.7352837.1%196 W · 332 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick36cpaid-3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6579…b0a5backed FURIA44c188.93$83 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$83.1310529.5%31 W · 74 L-5.3wins-0.05per pick35cpaid-17.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x86c8…fc02backed FURIA44c187.67$83 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$83.4555950.3%281 W · 278 L+7.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked FURIA14c184.56$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.355,51147%2,590 W · 2,921 L+42.0wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-4.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa306…a39dbacked Natus Vincere57c184.15$105 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78.7213155%72 W · 59 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-9.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5821…7c51backed Natus Vincere57c181.2$103 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$77.9213058.5%76 W · 54 L-0.5wins0.00per pick59cpaid-3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc49b…70c0backed Natus Vincere51c180.75$92 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$88.7560838.2%232 W · 376 L+11.2wins+0.02per pick36cpaid-7.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.