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NBA · resolved market

Lakers vs. Jazz

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Lakersof Lakers, Jazz
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,431,446
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,645,221

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,431,446 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 795 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xb744…5210backed Jazz20c301,409$60,735 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60,734.8815443.5%67 W · 87 L+0.4wins0.00per pick43cpaid+1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8605…750fbacked Lakers75c195,216$146,617 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$48,598.762657.7%15 W · 11 L+1.2wins+0.05per pick53cpaid-7.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x0979…8d9bbacked Lakers80c125,000$100,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25,00020352.7%107 W · 96 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2c57…c94dbacked Lakers79c100,000$79,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20,999.995151%26 W · 25 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Jazz27c50,573$13,784 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,784.424,87848%2,341 W · 2,537 L+61.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3eac…4c8cbacked Jazz21c39,047$8,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,199.7811558.3%67 W · 48 L+5.0wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe3d4…2bacbacked Lakers78c33,513$26,123 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,389.2447856.5%270 W · 208 L-8.9wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-2.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1e3a…4033backed Lakers80c31,250$25,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,25034062.1%211 W · 129 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xee00…cea1backed Jazz34c30,125$10,274 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,274.4270147.8%335 W · 366 L+15.4wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-8.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x94d7…bef5backed Jazz20c29,296$6,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,00025925.9%67 W · 192 L+6.5wins+0.03per pick23cpaid+8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe20a…e469backed Jazz21c27,984$5,837 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,836.852,36148.1%1,136 W · 1,225 L-41.8wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-3.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x64b5…7543backed Jazz20c25,000$5,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,00035235.8%126 W · 226 L+5.1wins+0.01per pick34cpaid+10.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe405…bf91backed Jazz17c23,668$4,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,00048448.8%236 W · 248 L-5.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x057a…3bacbacked Jazz23c23,058$5,396 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,396.0126038.1%99 W · 161 L-9.3wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-24%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Jazz17c21,475$3,602 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,602.451,19032%381 W · 809 L-58.1wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-34.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Lakers80c20,000$16,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,00038248.7%186 W · 196 L+13.9wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+0.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Jazz26c19,697$5,080 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,079.91,04549%512 W · 533 L+21.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd178…6703backed Lakers80c18,808$15,047 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,761.643154.8%17 W · 14 L-1.9wins-0.06per pick61cpaid-5.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Jazz20c15,699$3,197 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,196.774,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Jazz20c11,954$2,391 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,390.769,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa925…e1c8backed Lakers80c11,888$9,478 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,409.948744.8%39 W · 48 L-5.3wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-21.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Jazz21c10,000$2,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,1002,15351.3%1,105 W · 1,048 L+76.7wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+6.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x17cb…3ab8backed Lakers80c9,169$7,335 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,833.837437.8%28 W · 46 L-9.6wins-0.13per pick51cpaid-39.7%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x27cb…169ebacked Jazz21c8,250$1,733 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,732.5227424.5%67 W · 207 L-10.0wins-0.04per pick28cpaid-13.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5139…a8dbbacked Jazz21c7,525$1,582 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,581.9869852%363 W · 335 L+10.3wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x84db…aeebbacked Jazz20c7,436$1,487 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,487.181,37450.1%689 W · 685 L+34.9wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+7.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb123…0a15backed Jazz20c6,698$1,340 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,339.59944.4%44 W · 55 L-2.5wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-2.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Jazz17c6,492$1,106 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,106.178,98847.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L+96.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x90ba…63f3backed Jazz22c6,237$1,372 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,372.081,78228%499 W · 1,283 L+11.5wins+0.01per pick27cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Lakers79c6,142$4,838 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,303.992,09147.8%1,000 W · 1,091 L-56.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xca3f…8078backed Jazz20c5,945$1,214 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,213.9955346.8%259 W · 294 L-6.5wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-5.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x14ac…cb21backed Lakers78c5,880$4,587 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,293.6937557.6%216 W · 159 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd1ed…d7cbbacked Jazz18c5,842$1,060 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,059.751,22637.4%458 W · 768 L+7.6wins+0.01per pick37cpaid-21.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Jazz24c5,675$1,346 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,346.472,63036.7%966 W · 1,664 L-119.1wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-25.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x0a59…770cbacked Lakers75c5,222$3,892 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,330.176665.2%43 W · 23 L+1.7wins+0.03per pick63cpaid-3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x481b…74c1backed Jazz31c5,147$1,593 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,593.0948046%221 W · 259 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-9.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8980…d4f4backed Lakers80c5,000$4,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,00021951.1%112 W · 107 L+7.4wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+9.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1252…dec2backed Lakers80c5,000$4,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0004052.5%21 W · 19 L-2.3wins-0.06per pick58cpaid-11%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x067f…e041backed Jazz16c5,000$800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8001,26944.5%565 W · 704 L+32.4wins+0.03per pick42cpaid+4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xba41…5f4fbacked Jazz20c5,000$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$999.9931445.2%142 W · 172 L-3.6wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-0.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Jazz21c4,972$1,049 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0491,40940.2%567 W · 842 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-23.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Lakers77c4,787$3,672 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,115.245,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x781c…db68backed Jazz21c4,633$975 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$974.631,38439.4%545 W · 839 L+4.8wins0.00per pick39cpaid-21.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3c39…b49bbacked Lakers75c4,290$3,216 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,074.044100%4 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.24per pick76cpaid+31.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xcd3a…67cabacked Jazz7c4,005$261 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26150838.2%194 W · 314 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick34cpaid+1.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Jazz21c4,000$840 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84076850.3%386 W · 382 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa07d…9871backed Lakers69c4,000$2,760 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,24022846.1%105 W · 123 L-6.0wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-11.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x5293…2f35backed Lakers79c4,000$3,160 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8401428.6%4 W · 10 L-3.6wins-0.25per pick54cpaid-61.5%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x6239…c24fbacked Jazz20c3,803$761 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$760.695049.4%469 W · 481 L+10.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x016e…c700backed Lakers80c3,610$2,888 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7222466.7%16 W · 8 L+0.1wins0.00per pick66cpaid-1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9614…5247backed Jazz21c3,300$693 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$693850%4 W · 4 L+0.6wins+0.08per pick42cpaid-2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Lakers79c3,135$2,485 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$650.172,04548.4%990 W · 1,055 L-30.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x59b6…307fbacked Lakers66c3,061$2,020 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,040.6127152%141 W · 130 L-17.9wins-0.07per pick59cpaid-12.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x9e81…f02ebacked Jazz1c3,000$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$301020%2 W · 8 L+0.8wins+0.08per pick12cpaid-7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x61e4…3030backed Lakers71c3,000$2,132 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8683745.9%17 W · 20 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-13.5%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x6bda…4282backed Lakers79c2,890$2,278 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$612.2915950.3%80 W · 79 L-2.8wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-4.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1a10…8b30backed Jazz20c2,773$547 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$546.8850239%196 W · 306 L-8.9wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x25b7…bafdbacked Jazz22c2,625$571 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$571.25450%2 W · 2 L+0.2wins+0.06per pick44cpaid-31.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc998…f060backed Jazz23c2,595$609 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$608.5912458.9%73 W · 51 L+8.5wins+0.07per pick52cpaid+9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xacfb…c336backed Jazz23c2,496$562 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56250%0 W · 5 L-1.4wins-0.28per pick28cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x8717…49a8backed Jazz21c2,496$524 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$524.1635651.1%182 W · 174 L+4.7wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+6.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4c03…0cc1backed Jazz1c2,476$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.761,60211.8%189 W · 1,413 L-4.8wins0.00per pick12cpaid-6.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd6f4…0566backed Jazz24c2,475$592 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$591.6485344%375 W · 478 L+1.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-15.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb2e2…4e99backed Jazz21c2,381$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50016442.1%69 W · 95 L-7.6wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-10.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xabcb…d8d7backed Jazz6c2,348$145 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$145219.5%2 W · 19 L+0.1wins0.00per pick9cpaid-41.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x817b…3c25backed Jazz20c2,337$479 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$479.041,04841.1%431 W · 617 L+23.6wins+0.02per pick39cpaid+1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0a44…d80abacked Jazz20c2,331$476 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$476.2611354%61 W · 52 L+7.5wins+0.07per pick47cpaid+14.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x20cb…719bbacked Lakers76c2,306$1,760 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$546.431662.5%10 W · 6 L+0.5wins+0.03per pick60cpaid+6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfefb…4b5dbacked Jazz24c2,281$548 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$547.5181529.4%240 W · 575 L-37.0wins-0.05per pick34cpaid-43%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xeb6b…943abacked Lakers68c2,256$1,524 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$732.315461.7%95 W · 59 L+5.8wins+0.04per pick58cpaid+1.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0fde…8ab1backed Lakers79c2,153$1,701 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$452.0810769.2%74 W · 33 L-2.1wins-0.02per pick71cpaid-2.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xcdf3…1bb5backed Jazz13c2,037$265 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$264.7612239.3%48 W · 74 L-6.6wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-9.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5341…2b42backed Jazz25c2,006$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5004753.2%25 W · 22 L+2.9wins+0.06per pick47cpaid+29.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4fc1…ec92backed Lakers79c2,000$1,580 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$420.4375347.5%358 W · 395 L+10.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa5cf…8cc5backed Jazz21c2,000$420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42043247.5%205 W · 227 L+11.4wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+3.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xba26…23c9backed Lakers79c2,000$1,576 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$423.992,79650.3%1,405 W · 1,391 L+27.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x519d…37a1backed Jazz1c1,993$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.597502%15 W · 735 L-3.2wins0.00per pick2cpaid-63.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa088…3d07backed Lakers72c1,956$1,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$555.971593.3%14 W · 1 L+3.7wins+0.25per pick69cpaid+40.2%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x5137…1556backed Jazz21c1,931$397 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$396.862,26543.4%982 W · 1,283 L-26.7wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-4.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x18aa…9e2bbacked Lakers80c1,874$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$374.89250%1 W · 1 L+0.1wins+0.04per pick46cpaid-37.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8ddb…420bbacked Jazz21c1,864$396 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$395.5229458.5%172 W · 122 L+6.0wins+0.02per pick56cpaid-0.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x52a0…c17ebacked Jazz21c1,809$380 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$379.8120%0 W · 2 L-1.0wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xf2a8…45adbacked Lakers77c1,808$1,399 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4091952.6%10 W · 9 L+0.8wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+15.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7cb1…984ebacked Lakers75c1,784$1,344 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$440.4716052.5%84 W · 76 L+8.4wins+0.05per pick47cpaid+9.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x9a7f…4b5dbacked Lakers79c1,765$1,394 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$370.589851%50 W · 48 L+5.1wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+11.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x299c…3ae7backed Jazz31c1,740$532 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$532.43911.1%1 W · 8 L-1.5wins-0.16per pick28cpaid-68.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x825a…b9fdbacked Lakers77c1,722$1,331 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$390.492347.8%11 W · 12 L-3.0wins-0.13per pick61cpaid-18%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x9f05…8937backed Jazz19c1,643$320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$319.6847028.1%132 W · 338 L+27.2wins+0.06per pick22cpaid+13.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xfb85…8464backed Lakers73c1,637$1,195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$441.9940041.5%166 W · 234 L-5.9wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-5.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xe648…b79abacked Jazz21c1,633$343 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34325554.1%138 W · 117 L-8.3wins-0.03per pick57cpaid-8.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3605…1ae1backed Lakers70c1,620$1,127 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$492.6123043%99 W · 131 L+4.8wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-2.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2bcc…4324backed Jazz20c1,593$323 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$322.5852844.7%236 W · 292 L+1.8wins0.00per pick44cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x00d6…aa44backed Jazz22c1,583$348 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$348.355815.5%9 W · 49 L-1.8wins-0.03per pick19cpaid-24.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x69ce…1817backed Lakers73c1,516$1,106 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$409.73837.5%3 W · 5 L-1.2wins-0.15per pick53cpaid-45.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x57a8…6933backed Jazz20c1,513$303 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$302.5792753.5%496 W · 431 L+20.1wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdc9f…905bbacked Lakers79c1,510$1,195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$314.862539.4%246 W · 379 L-18.0wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-6.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbdab…47a8backed Lakers80c1,500$1,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$300977.8%7 W · 2 L+2.2wins+0.24per pick53cpaid+58.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x9731…9b35backed Jazz21c1,435$302 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$301.72,51249.1%1,234 W · 1,278 L+6.9wins0.00per pick49cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8809…6e34backed Jazz7c1,429$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100333.3%1 W · 2 L+0.1wins+0.03per pick31cpaid-35.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x80a9…ad8bbacked Lakers70c1,426$998 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$427.719943.4%43 W · 56 L0.0wins0.00per pick43cpaid-15.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 11 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.