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Lol · resolved market

LoL: Partizan Sangal vs WLGaming Esports (BO3) - EMEA Masters Group C

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
WLGaming Esportsof Partizan Sangal, WLGaming Esports
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$27,750
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$28,573

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $27,750 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

All 98 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xc387…5a97backed Partizan Sangal54c1,799$980 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$979.6761154.7%334 W · 277 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-2%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x4f4e…b690backed Partizan Sangal51c1,373$700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$700.2382954.5%452 W · 377 L+3.3wins0.00per pick54cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1747…4afcbacked Partizan Sangal43c1,111$472 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$472.519844.4%88 W · 110 L+2.9wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+4.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked WLGaming Esports67c993.65$664 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$330.031,67157.9%968 W · 703 L+70.6wins+0.04per pick54cpaid-0.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked WLGaming Esports49c932.93$457 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$476.221,15842.6%493 W · 665 L-23.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-20.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1052…441bbacked WLGaming Esports55c903.57$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$403.5722558.2%131 W · 94 L+2.9wins+0.01per pick57cpaid-0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed WLGaming Esports43c883.12$383 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$499.811,42838.4%548 W · 880 L-42.4wins-0.03per pick41cpaid-21.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9797…c193backed WLGaming Esports49c823$403 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$419.734346.5%20 W · 23 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xff34…694bbacked WLGaming Esports65c764.25$495 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$268.931,06154.7%580 W · 481 L+13.3wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-4.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed WLGaming Esports22c752.38$166 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$586.861,47429%427 W · 1,047 L+25.0wins+0.02per pick27cpaid+4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2da3…f258backed WLGaming Esports54c668.11$362 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$305.681,00454.5%547 W · 457 L+49.8wins+0.05per pick50cpaid-0.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x6326…6329backed WLGaming Esports41c662.3$273 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$389.324435.7%87 W · 157 L-7.5wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-14.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbffb…a60ebacked WLGaming Esports28c599.99$168 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$431.991553.3%8 W · 7 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6e71…e570backed WLGaming Esports23c599.99$138 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$461.994560%27 W · 18 L+2.9wins+0.06per pick54cpaid+17.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x5672…7312backed WLGaming Esports41c596.85$244 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$352.7952543.8%230 W · 295 L-6.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-15.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed WLGaming Esports51c595.1$301 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$293.791,06723.5%251 W · 816 L-76.8wins-0.07per pick31cpaid-49.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xb5ba…06b3backed Partizan Sangal59c594.69$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35029238.4%112 W · 180 L-13.6wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-17.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed WLGaming Esports47c515.94$243 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$273.382,23733.3%745 W · 1,492 L-71.3wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-21.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xdfa8…cae6backed Partizan Sangal58c500$289 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$289.0882953.4%443 W · 386 L-3.7wins0.00per pick54cpaid-4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8144…8472backed WLGaming Esports20c500$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40010443.3%45 W · 59 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-11.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed WLGaming Esports48c481.57$231 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$250.332,54039.7%1,009 W · 1,531 L-79.3wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-18.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x76f1…f655backed WLGaming Esports46c455.41$208 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$246.9757349.4%283 W · 290 L+8.4wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-5.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x0c83…72eabacked WLGaming Esports24c411.28$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$311.285032%16 W · 34 L-0.5wins-0.01per pick33cpaid-1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x99bc…4f35backed Partizan Sangal48c388.5$185 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$184.5416919.5%33 W · 136 L-10.0wins-0.06per pick25cpaid-44.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xc6f8…7fa1backed Partizan Sangal78c384.62$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30078646.4%365 W · 421 L+19.7wins+0.03per pick44cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7462…3ac3backed Partizan Sangal72c377.96$272 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$272.131,01447.6%483 W · 531 L+8.5wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd154…9c74backed WLGaming Esports45c351$158 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$192.5348747%229 W · 258 L-1.2wins0.00per pick47cpaid-13.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0593…9712backed Partizan Sangal78c346.72$272 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$271.5712469.4%86 W · 38 L+7.8wins+0.06per pick63cpaid+8.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x8935…7daabacked Partizan Sangal55c323.48$179 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$179.312,98444.5%1,329 W · 1,655 L-94.6wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-16.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x048b…f503backed Partizan Sangal74c305.86$227 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$226.931442.9%6 W · 8 L-3.5wins-0.25per pick68cpaid-38.5%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x16f1…e1d1backed Partizan Sangal53c299.98$159 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$158.9939851.3%204 W · 194 L-10.3wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-2.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4711…ce32backed WLGaming Esports48c296.49$143 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$153.815825.9%15 W · 43 L-2.4wins-0.04per pick30cpaid-43.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x191f…f09ebacked Partizan Sangal67c293.46$197 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$197.0342540.7%173 W · 252 L-17.4wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-13.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x84ad…bfb7backed Partizan Sangal67c287.09$192 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$191.751,96548.4%951 W · 1,014 L+27.1wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-9.1%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x2d10…5990backed Partizan Sangal34c284.99$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.591931.6%6 W · 13 L-1.4wins-0.07per pick39cpaid-27.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x5ae8…e1b3backed Partizan Sangal50c283.86$141 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1417349.3%36 W · 37 L-7.1wins-0.10per pick59cpaid-21.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Partizan Sangal34c283.34$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.572,33039.4%919 W · 1,411 L-83.6wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-20.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xaf21…d34abacked Partizan Sangal28c282.76$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8014461.8%89 W · 55 L+9.1wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+8.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xca81…f2abbacked Partizan Sangal63c267.52$169 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$169.0661343.6%267 W · 346 L+8.1wins+0.01per pick42cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0862…dc29backed Partizan Sangal40c257$103 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.830643.1%132 W · 174 L-1.3wins0.00per pick44cpaid-11.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1ca0…38babacked Partizan Sangal50c250$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1251,45343.4%630 W · 823 L+106.7wins+0.07per pick36cpaid+20.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x257e…ca61backed WLGaming Esports41c228.15$94 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$134.2220450.5%103 W · 101 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-8.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2d21…92e5backed Partizan Sangal51c227.26$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.969841.8%292 W · 406 L+46.3wins+0.07per pick35cpaid+10.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x10b0…8525backed WLGaming Esports32c222.6$71 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.671,80251.2%923 W · 879 L+53.1wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+5.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked Partizan Sangal80c186.35$149 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$149.081,93942.2%819 W · 1,120 L-46.2wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-22.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x775d…6bebbacked Partizan Sangal79c166$131 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$130.5497744.8%438 W · 539 L-30.4wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-19.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x14e7…a32cbacked WLGaming Esports48c153.67$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$79.7535341.9%148 W · 205 L-11.6wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-25.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc7d0…1f8abacked WLGaming Esports58c137$79 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.651,23937.3%462 W · 777 L-39.2wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-27%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1ab6…078ebacked Partizan Sangal72c132.99$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$95.7534250.6%173 W · 169 L+10.3wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+11.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1cdd…e595backed Partizan Sangal57c132.55$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$76.151,60817.5%282 W · 1,326 L-245.3wins-0.15per pick33cpaid-63.5%equal weight33-0.15 edge/pick
0xddae…7d66backed Partizan Sangal78c128.21$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10012857.8%74 W · 54 L+6.4wins+0.05per pick53cpaid+14%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xa4c8…3025backed Partizan Sangal78c128.21$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10012471%88 W · 36 L+0.5wins0.00per pick71cpaid-3.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked Partizan Sangal53c127.52$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.321,91237.1%709 W · 1,203 L-115.7wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-32.8%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed Partizan Sangal15c125.06$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.623,15933.8%1,068 W · 2,091 L-152.6wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-34.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x186a…559dbacked Partizan Sangal72c125$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$902470.8%17 W · 7 L+2.8wins+0.12per pick59cpaid+21.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xe26b…a9ecbacked WLGaming Esports15c123.25$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104.3152049.2%256 W · 264 L+11.4wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-0.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb877…4601backed WLGaming Esports67c106.72$71 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35.441,24439.7%494 W · 750 L-69.7wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-24.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xe896…a4c7backed Partizan Sangal65c100.72$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6528062.5%175 W · 105 L+21.2wins+0.08per pick55cpaid+14.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x5f43…3a74backed WLGaming Esports22c99.99$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$77.9958437.2%217 W · 367 L-7.9wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-7.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked WLGaming Esports50c99.65$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.92,83641.4%1,175 W · 1,661 L-12.9wins0.00per pick42cpaid-4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa9f5…937fbacked Partizan Sangal27c99$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26.962,70735.9%972 W · 1,735 L-152.3wins-0.06per pick42cpaid-31.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xebff…70e5backed Partizan Sangal29c90.99$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26.481,07926%281 W · 798 L-99.0wins-0.09per pick35cpaid-46.5%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x156b…c533backed Partizan Sangal54c89.5$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4821763.6%138 W · 79 L+0.6wins0.00per pick63cpaid+1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x629d…756cbacked WLGaming Esports17c85$15 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$70.161,09147.4%517 W · 574 L-2.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid-14.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xad2c…4eecbacked WLGaming Esports21c83.97$18 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.1314545.5%66 W · 79 L-0.3wins0.00per pick46cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc666…8d00backed WLGaming Esports31c79.99$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$55.1943051.4%221 W · 209 L+6.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+4.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x85c3…700cbacked Partizan Sangal73c79.57$58 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.0723047%108 W · 122 L-15.1wins-0.07per pick54cpaid-11.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x100a…0919backed WLGaming Esports27c77.91$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.871172.7%8 W · 3 L+1.9wins+0.17per pick55cpaid+36.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc6d7…5b28backed WLGaming Esports27c77$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.212100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.51per pick49cpaid+155.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x56fc…affbbacked Partizan Sangal53c72$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.1644751%228 W · 219 L+6.7wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x969f…cbdcbacked Partizan Sangal54c69.1$37 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37.0818046.1%83 W · 97 L+4.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-12.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa9f9…5273backed WLGaming Esports34c65.56$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.27475%3 W · 1 L+1.1wins+0.26per pick49cpaid+56.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xcf08…12a3backed WLGaming Esports46c65.22$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35.222450%12 W · 12 L+0.7wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xc4fe…601fbacked Partizan Sangal24c65.2$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.762,02030.5%617 W · 1,403 L-172.4wins-0.09per pick39cpaid-43.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xee9c…c449backed Partizan Sangal51c61.76$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31.553543.4%232 W · 303 L+33.4wins+0.06per pick37cpaid+15.9%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xc9b2…2745backed Partizan Sangal51c57.47$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.512030.8%37 W · 83 L-1.9wins-0.02per pick32cpaid-18.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xde04…fa37backed Partizan Sangal80c55.48$44 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44.2767931.8%216 W · 463 L-31.9wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-35.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x5f56…348abacked WLGaming Esports56c55$31 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.321530.7%66 W · 149 L-15.3wins-0.07per pick38cpaid-39.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x6b23…04a3backed WLGaming Esports49c53.84$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27.521,57155.1%866 W · 705 L+80.3wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+1.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc925…6d24backed Partizan Sangal54c53.43$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28.9165725.9%170 W · 487 L-93.4wins-0.14per pick40cpaid-53.9%equal weight35-0.14 edge/pick
0x5d94…eb52backed WLGaming Esports47c53.19$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.1932345.5%147 W · 176 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-4.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x60d2…4268backed Partizan Sangal77c52$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40.04366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.1wins+0.04per pick63cpaid+27.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x00d2…fe64backed Partizan Sangal78c51$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.7322239.6%88 W · 134 L-21.7wins-0.10per pick49cpaid-20.4%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x9931…ea8cbacked WLGaming Esports20c51$10 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40.82744.4%12 W · 15 L-4.0wins-0.15per pick59cpaid-21.6%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x8649…ba57backed WLGaming Esports43c50.88$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.166450%32 W · 32 L+3.9wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+20.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xcd96…11a3backed Partizan Sangal51c49.02$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2510847.2%51 W · 57 L+3.7wins+0.03per pick44cpaid-4.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9565…ec9abacked WLGaming Esports32c48.51$15 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33.15757.1%4 W · 3 L+1.2wins+0.16per pick41cpaid+8.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xff5a…ab91backed WLGaming Esports49c43.82$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22.52475%3 W · 1 L+1.5wins+0.38per pick37cpaid+98.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xbb8e…08c1backed Partizan Sangal45c41$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.391,65846.9%777 W · 881 L-25.2wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-15.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x2888…f1a4backed WLGaming Esports28c40$11 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28.854932.4%178 W · 371 L+5.8wins+0.01per pick31cpaid+5.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4887…6b77backed Partizan Sangal63c35.91$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.752060%12 W · 8 L+1.0wins+0.05per pick55cpaid+10%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf4f8…5bf1backed Partizan Sangal39c35$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.651,93135.9%693 W · 1,238 L-98.4wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-23.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7b28…ff4fbacked Partizan Sangal40c35$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1426240.5%106 W · 156 L-28.5wins-0.11per pick51cpaid-29.7%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0xf2ae…0864backed WLGaming Esports76c30$23 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7.274462.2%463 W · 281 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick61cpaid-2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x39f6…c6efbacked Partizan Sangal52c26.87$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.0711044.5%49 W · 61 L+2.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x77de…e67abacked WLGaming Esports53c24.76$13 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.7314142.6%60 W · 81 L-7.2wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-12.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xc67b…b3d8backed Partizan Sangal77c17.24$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.2124359.3%144 W · 99 L+6.3wins+0.03per pick57cpaid+4.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc6dc…58d5backed Partizan Sangal69c16.81$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.622152.5%116 W · 105 L-10.8wins-0.05per pick57cpaid-8.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 4 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.