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NBA · resolved market

Hawks vs. Wizards

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Hawksof Hawks, Wizards
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,133,107
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,168,870

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,133,107 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 573 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xe74a…40eebacked Wizards22c160,939$35,122 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35,122.091947.4%9 W · 10 L+1.9wins+0.10per pick37cpaid+41.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Hawks79c78,317$61,732 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16,585.362,09147.8%1,000 W · 1,091 L-56.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Hawks78c64,536$50,338 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,197.931,04549%512 W · 533 L+21.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2c57…c94dbacked Wizards22c60,000$13,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,199.985151%26 W · 25 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdb27…c56ebacked Wizards20c42,582$8,668 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,668.0687144.7%389 W · 482 L+14.9wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x14ac…cb21backed Hawks78c41,230$32,248 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,981.837557.6%216 W · 159 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xea5b…d88dbacked Wizards19c31,242$5,918 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,917.52520%1 W · 4 L-1.3wins-0.27per pick47cpaid-73.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Hawks79c31,035$24,617 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,417.352,04548.4%990 W · 1,055 L-30.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Hawks79c25,000$19,750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,25038248.7%186 W · 196 L+13.9wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+0.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1e3a…4033backed Hawks79c23,722$18,852 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,869.9834062.1%211 W · 129 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa89e…fb60backed Hawks79c21,348$16,828 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,519.615379.2%42 W · 11 L+6.7wins+0.13per pick67cpaid+15.3%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x8166…6770backed Hawks78c20,000$15,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,4002759.3%16 W · 11 L-0.5wins-0.02per pick61cpaid+8.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x64b5…7543backed Wizards21c20,000$4,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,199.9835235.8%126 W · 226 L+5.1wins+0.01per pick34cpaid+10.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8b6f…2e89backed Wizards9c18,000$1,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,599.992429.2%7 W · 17 L-2.3wins-0.10per pick39cpaid-56.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xde5d…f58bbacked Wizards27c17,019$4,654 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,653.95616.7%1 W · 5 L-1.2wins-0.20per pick37cpaid-75.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x9f13…e0fdbacked Wizards20c16,663$3,333 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,332.5172450.7%367 W · 357 L+13.1wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Wizards20c15,000$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,0002,15351.3%1,105 W · 1,048 L+76.7wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+6.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xba41…5f4fbacked Hawks79c15,000$11,850 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,15031445.2%142 W · 172 L-3.6wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-0.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2487…fa80backed Wizards21c15,000$3,150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,149.9218045%81 W · 99 L+4.1wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+13.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Wizards21c14,717$3,090 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,090.354,68249.6%2,324 W · 2,358 L+27.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5b8e…5c3cbacked Hawks78c12,794$9,958 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,835.3844459.7%265 W · 179 L+12.4wins+0.03per pick57cpaid+7.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x27cb…169ebacked Wizards20c12,782$2,584 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,584.3227424.5%67 W · 207 L-10.0wins-0.04per pick28cpaid-13.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x057a…3bacbacked Hawks78c12,669$9,890 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,778.9726038.1%99 W · 161 L-9.3wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-24%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xf8ba…8a09backed Wizards22c12,356$2,749 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,749.264223.8%10 W · 32 L-8.2wins-0.20per pick43cpaid-48.5%equal weight36-0.12 edge/pick
0x38c2…d3a7backed Hawks80c10,405$8,324 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,080.9522458.9%132 W · 92 L+10.0wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+7.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd78d…60bebacked Wizards0c10,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1025016.8%42 W · 208 L-13.1wins-0.05per pick22cpaid-38.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xfc4a…87d4backed Hawks79c10,000$7,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,1003551.4%18 W · 17 L-3.0wins-0.08per pick60cpaid-23.6%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x6cff…c3dabacked Wizards4c10,000$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40018518.4%34 W · 151 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick19cpaid-15%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe258…2330backed Wizards21c10,000$2,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,099.9723245.3%105 W · 127 L+0.5wins0.00per pick45cpaid+4.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0e8f…52f4backed Wizards27c9,277$2,528 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,527.74520%1 W · 4 L-0.4wins-0.07per pick27cpaid-13%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Wizards16c7,189$1,145 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,144.932,63036.7%966 W · 1,664 L-119.1wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-25.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xea32…8870backed Hawks79c7,000$5,530 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,4704744.7%21 W · 26 L-1.8wins-0.04per pick48cpaid+6.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Wizards15c6,973$1,052 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,051.831,00334.7%348 W · 655 L-44.7wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-35.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x03a9…37babacked Wizards23c6,500$1,470 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,469.9910547.6%50 W · 55 L+2.6wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x03ac…4f55backed Wizards21c6,428$1,364 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,364.1936741.4%152 W · 215 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick42cpaid+3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Wizards24c6,250$1,487 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,487.51,34129.9%401 W · 940 L-53.8wins-0.04per pick34cpaid-35.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xed0e…b305backed Wizards20c6,108$1,206 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,205.921723.5%51 W · 166 L+9.6wins+0.04per pick19cpaid+75.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb875…68a8backed Wizards20c5,517$1,102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,102.1510144.6%45 W · 56 L-5.1wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-11.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xbce9…03e9backed Wizards0c5,136$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.68820%0 W · 882 L-6.7wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x90ba…63f3backed Wizards22c5,100$1,102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,101.51,78228%499 W · 1,283 L+11.5wins+0.01per pick27cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3ed7…e617backed Wizards21c5,062$1,063 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0637255.6%40 W · 32 L+1.5wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xaacb…28b7backed Hawks79c5,000$3,950 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,050475%3 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.12per pick63cpaid+32.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4110…42a9backed Wizards21c5,000$1,050 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,050714.3%1 W · 6 L-1.7wins-0.25per pick39cpaid-51.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x6b7c…5f83backed Hawks76c4,987$3,790 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,1973,34243.4%1,450 W · 1,892 L+81.2wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-0.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x8b9a…5f69backed Wizards2c4,979$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.315213.8%20 W · 501 L+0.6wins0.00per pick4cpaid-36.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x52ec…a6f3backed Hawks79c4,424$3,495 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$928.9643051.4%221 W · 209 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x74cd…2319backed Wizards5c4,223$211 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$211.132165.6%12 W · 204 L-12.6wins-0.06per pick11cpaid-61%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xcacf…35ffbacked Wizards1c4,150$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.97211%7 W · 714 L-2.6wins0.00per pick1cpaid-32.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9ecb…a693backed Wizards1c4,124$21 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20.63348.8%3 W · 31 L-0.8wins-0.02per pick11cpaid-16.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xe07f…c3bcbacked Hawks79c4,100$3,239 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$861825%2 W · 6 L-1.5wins-0.19per pick44cpaid-63%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Hawks79c4,000$3,160 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8401,82052.1%948 W · 872 L+48.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1cf5…6440backed Wizards24c4,000$960 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$959.9846928.4%133 W · 336 L+2.3wins0.00per pick28cpaid-4.5%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Hawks78c3,946$3,080 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$865.469,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4c03…0cc1backed Wizards9c3,944$364 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$364.311,60211.8%189 W · 1,413 L-4.8wins0.00per pick12cpaid-6.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe212…d5f4backed Hawks80c3,890$3,112 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$778.15657.1%32 W · 24 L-3.8wins-0.07per pick64cpaid-12.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Hawks79c3,861$3,041 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$819.345,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf5d9…a6e1backed Hawks78c3,856$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$856.035667.9%38 W · 18 L+2.5wins+0.04per pick63cpaid+2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa4e8…6300backed Hawks80c3,748$2,998 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$749.63652.8%19 W · 17 L-3.8wins-0.11per pick63cpaid-18.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Hawks79c3,500$2,775 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72576850.3%386 W · 382 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xac0d…8bb7backed Hawks79c3,500$2,765 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7355872.4%42 W · 16 L+8.0wins+0.14per pick59cpaid+40.1%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0xcd3a…67cabacked Wizards14c3,497$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$499.8250838.2%194 W · 314 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick34cpaid+1.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xb322…2179backed Wizards21c3,171$666 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6664040%16 W · 24 L+1.7wins+0.04per pick36cpaid+12.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3450…6793backed Hawks80c3,126$2,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$625.7617441.4%72 W · 102 L-4.2wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-5.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9f63…94e7backed Wizards22c3,005$660 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$659.9425%1 W · 3 L-1.0wins-0.26per pick51cpaid-66.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xa83b…0e4abacked Hawks79c2,941$2,323 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$617.567050%35 W · 35 L-3.0wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-6.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x20e5…d3bcbacked Wizards21c2,800$588 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58822637.2%84 W · 142 L-5.1wins-0.02per pick39cpaid+2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb693…cfc9backed Wizards21c2,717$571 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$570.5910650%53 W · 53 L+4.9wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+16.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x0c22…0557backed Wizards28c2,710$750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$749.6230%0 W · 3 L-1.5wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x54b5…4b31backed Hawks77c2,688$2,069 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$618.1356945.3%258 W · 311 L-8.0wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-4.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x31ac…392cbacked Wizards19c2,632$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5002356.5%13 W · 10 L+3.8wins+0.16per pick40cpaid+33.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xb560…60d6backed Hawks78c2,620$2,044 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$576.435736.8%21 W · 36 L-8.0wins-0.14per pick51cpaid-25.6%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x7a79…a442backed Hawks79c2,532$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$531.657062.9%44 W · 26 L-2.5wins-0.04per pick66cpaid-5.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xccea…a8ebbacked Hawks78c2,507$1,965 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$541.623348.1%112 W · 121 L-1.5wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xce26…8e06backed Wizards22c2,500$550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55091050.9%463 W · 447 L+11.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x12d9…01bbbacked Wizards13c2,500$334 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$333.9646632.6%152 W · 314 L+8.3wins+0.02per pick31cpaid+9.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x06e6…87e6backed Hawks80c2,500$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50044648%214 W · 232 L-12.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdcc9…4534backed Hawks79c2,480$1,959 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$520.88167.9%55 W · 26 L+3.1wins+0.04per pick64cpaid+6.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa0e4…1f4abacked Wizards25c2,440$610 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$610250%1 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.27per pick24cpaid+127.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd903…bf9dbacked Hawks79c2,414$1,899 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$515.0544654.3%242 W · 204 L+21.5wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+5.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x57a8…6933backed Wizards21c2,380$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$499.892753.5%496 W · 431 L+20.1wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6239…c24fbacked Hawks78c2,237$1,745 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$492.1395049.4%469 W · 481 L+10.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x708d…8a09backed Wizards21c2,100$441 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44121923.7%52 W · 167 L+0.5wins0.00per pick24cpaid-13.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Wizards9c2,048$194 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$193.673,99548.9%1,952 W · 2,043 L+101.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa72e…3db9backed Wizards25c2,029$507 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$507.3814243%61 W · 81 L+9.4wins+0.07per pick36cpaid-0.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x1d3a…7b63backed Wizards21c2,000$420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42076249.5%377 W · 385 L-8.7wins-0.01per pick51cpaid+0.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe78e…55f0backed Wizards21c2,000$420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42034645.7%158 W · 188 L+12.9wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+6.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xfd6f…34b8backed Wizards6c2,000$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12010%0 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.06per pick6cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3697…f189backed Wizards3c2,000$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.565218.4%120 W · 532 L+12.0wins+0.02per pick17cpaid+0.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd6f4…0566backed Wizards17c1,918$330 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$329.9785344%375 W · 478 L+1.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-15.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5139…a8dbbacked Wizards23c1,847$424 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$423.7969852%363 W · 335 L+10.3wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x1e52…91d6backed Wizards18c1,802$319 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$319.1226638.7%103 W · 163 L-9.9wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-20.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x4a1e…86d3backed Wizards21c1,696$356 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$356.227840.6%113 W · 165 L-22.5wins-0.08per pick49cpaid-17.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x81e4…6f22backed Wizards21c1,673$351 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$351.3117250%86 W · 86 L+7.0wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+6.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x3295…07afbacked Wizards3c1,667$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$503735.1%13 W · 24 L-3.0wins-0.08per pick43cpaid-33.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x8c79…cf06backed Hawks78c1,658$1,293 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$364.752100%2 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.22per pick78cpaid+27.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf1d6…874abacked Hawks75c1,620$1,215 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4052100%2 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.32per pick69cpaid+47.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xaa02…d9ebbacked Wizards21c1,600$336 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3361225%3 W · 9 L-0.6wins-0.05per pick30cpaid-20.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xec8b…152bbacked Hawks78c1,572$1,226 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$345.8615945.9%73 W · 86 L-4.8wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-2.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb7b3…9573backed Wizards25c1,500$375 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$374.9973649.9%367 W · 369 L-5.8wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0fde…8ab1backed Hawks79c1,413$1,116 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$296.6810769.2%74 W · 33 L-2.1wins-0.02per pick71cpaid-2.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

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Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.