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NBA · resolved market

Bulls vs. Magic

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Magicof Bulls, Magic
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,198,383
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,236,212

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,198,383 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 720 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x4259…936fbacked Bulls26c250,000$64,076 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64,075.778333.7%28 W · 55 L-7.6wins-0.09per pick43cpaid-29.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Magic74c147,336$109,580 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37,755.731,04549%512 W · 533 L+21.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Bulls24c56,587$13,830 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,830.242,09147.8%1,000 W · 1,091 L-56.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x94d7…bef5backed Bulls33c55,020$18,239 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18,238.9325925.9%67 W · 192 L+6.5wins+0.03per pick23cpaid+8.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Magic68c52,503$35,876 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16,626.9938248.7%186 W · 196 L+13.9wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+0.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Magic67c44,495$29,839 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,655.195,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1e3a…4033backed Magic75c34,000$25,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,50034062.1%211 W · 129 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x14ac…cb21backed Magic78c25,130$19,599 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,531.2837557.6%216 W · 159 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Bulls24c24,663$5,850 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,849.72,04548.4%990 W · 1,055 L-30.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xead0…f3babacked Magic77c24,102$18,559 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,543.561,12448.6%546 W · 578 L+13.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcf6c…7e66backed Magic72c23,773$17,083 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,690.2259646.1%275 W · 321 L-16.2wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-10.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x818b…ccc8backed Bulls56c21,386$12,080 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,079.74333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.7wins-0.24per pick58cpaid-43.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9267…0f9abacked Magic77c20,000$15,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,60059653.4%318 W · 278 L+4.3wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfc25…1f7fbacked Bulls23c19,999$4,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,599.8496447.8%461 W · 503 L+35.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+17.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb2e4…bc51backed Magic54c18,453$10,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,453.0521944.7%98 W · 121 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick45cpaid+0.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x057a…3bacbacked Magic65c17,732$11,534 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,198.1226038.1%99 W · 161 L-9.3wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-24%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xb90c…9a6abacked Bulls36c14,879$5,343 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,342.623234.4%11 W · 21 L-3.0wins-0.09per pick44cpaid-20.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xff12…09f9backed Magic80c14,337$11,437 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,900.2619388.1%170 W · 23 L+48.6wins+0.25per pick63cpaid+46.2%equal weight75+0.22 edge/pick
0xa117…a311backed Magic76c13,000$9,880 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,119.983351.5%17 W · 16 L-1.3wins-0.04per pick56cpaid-7.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xbdac…f7e2backed Bulls30c12,527$3,780 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,780.3119136.1%69 W · 122 L-15.3wins-0.08per pick44cpaid-22.9%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x5ba6…0f07backed Magic50c12,000$6,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,00010837%40 W · 68 L-4.1wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe653…c4a7backed Magic73c10,021$7,341 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,680.2722457.1%128 W · 96 L+4.4wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+0.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8049…8f36backed Bulls24c10,000$2,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,4001323.1%3 W · 10 L0.0wins0.00per pick23cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0f16…0246backed Magic52c9,997$5,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,796.6338649.5%191 W · 195 L+11.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5b8e…5c3cbacked Magic71c9,429$6,724 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,704.4544459.7%265 W · 179 L+12.4wins+0.03per pick57cpaid+7.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9f13…e0fdbacked Magic77c9,011$6,938 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,072.4372450.7%367 W · 357 L+13.1wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdeaf…dbaabacked Bulls20c8,000$1,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,60037930.6%116 W · 263 L+5.0wins+0.01per pick29cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x90ba…63f3backed Bulls23c7,754$1,783 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,783.461,78228%499 W · 1,283 L+11.5wins+0.01per pick27cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1117…3532backed Bulls22c7,336$1,614 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,613.921,02450.8%520 W · 504 L+18.6wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+5.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9615…60ddbacked Magic77c7,332$5,642 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,689.6714853.4%79 W · 69 L+3.0wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3a7a…15a4backed Magic51c7,148$3,652 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,496.5831044.8%139 W · 171 L+1.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid-3.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x06e6…87e6backed Bulls23c7,033$1,627 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,627.4644648%214 W · 232 L-12.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe916…4563backed Bulls24c6,608$1,586 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,5868846.6%41 W · 47 L+3.8wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+6.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xdddc…ced2backed Bulls23c6,432$1,479 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,479.2612541.6%52 W · 73 L+6.3wins+0.05per pick37cpaid+11.5%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x817b…3c25backed Bulls17c6,207$1,032 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,032.131,04841.1%431 W · 617 L+23.6wins+0.02per pick39cpaid+1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3eac…4c8cbacked Bulls22c5,950$1,309 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,30911558.3%67 W · 48 L+5.0wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Magic58c5,948$3,427 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,520.641,00334.7%348 W · 655 L-44.7wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-35.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xdd54…b245backed Bulls22c5,555$1,222 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,222.110235.3%36 W · 66 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick35cpaid+8.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2509…e4dbbacked Bulls34c5,413$1,823 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,822.6466744.5%297 W · 370 L-6.5wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x52ec…a6f3backed Bulls43c5,000$2,150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,149.9943051.4%221 W · 209 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Magic56c4,695$2,627 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,067.581,40940.2%567 W · 842 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-23.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Magic53c4,673$2,467 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,206.741,34129.9%401 W · 940 L-53.8wins-0.04per pick34cpaid-35.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xe756…e006backed Bulls25c4,640$1,160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,16032827.4%90 W · 238 L-6.4wins-0.02per pick29cpaid-12.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf3ae…7b92backed Bulls22c4,500$990 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99018142%76 W · 105 L+4.4wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+0.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa83b…0e4abacked Bulls67c4,478$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,0007050%35 W · 35 L-3.0wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-6.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Magic58c4,196$2,433 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,763.743,99548.9%1,952 W · 2,043 L+101.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0af1…abc0backed Bulls23c4,174$960 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96030%0 W · 3 L-0.8wins-0.26per pick26cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa72e…3db9backed Bulls39c4,084$1,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,60014243%61 W · 81 L+9.4wins+0.07per pick36cpaid-0.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x3850…c4b4backed Bulls51c4,067$2,074 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,073.9812334.1%42 W · 81 L-3.1wins-0.03per pick37cpaid-13.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x25cc…9297backed Magic71c4,000$2,840 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,159.9916942%71 W · 98 L-2.6wins-0.02per pick44cpaid+4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7a60…3170backed Magic76c3,724$2,821 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$903.6312646%58 W · 68 L-5.7wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-14.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xb7b3…9573backed Magic58c3,695$2,161 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,534.6673649.9%367 W · 369 L-5.8wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8245…4f87backed Bulls63c3,633$2,289 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,288.557450%37 W · 37 L-2.1wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-5.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd903…bf9dbacked Magic62c3,534$2,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,334.6344654.3%242 W · 204 L+21.5wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+5.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Bulls24c3,514$843 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$843.354,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x35fe…95f7backed Bulls23c3,261$750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7501723.5%4 W · 13 L-0.5wins-0.03per pick27cpaid-32.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Bulls17c3,186$536 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$536.311,19032%381 W · 809 L-58.1wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-34.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x5fa9…a36dbacked Bulls47c3,175$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50024038.3%92 W · 148 L-8.1wins-0.03per pick42cpaid+2.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb322…2179backed Bulls29c3,172$920 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9204040%16 W · 24 L+1.7wins+0.04per pick36cpaid+12.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x194f…3d95backed Bulls23c3,000$690 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$69013345.9%61 W · 72 L+3.1wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x23ed…f088backed Bulls24c3,000$720 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$720425%1 W · 3 L-0.7wins-0.18per pick43cpaid-49%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf0f3…f6bebacked Magic77c3,000$2,310 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6904100%4 W · 0 L+1.7wins+0.44per pick56cpaid+83.5%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xba41…5f4fbacked Bulls23c3,000$690 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$69031445.2%142 W · 172 L-3.6wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-0.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8980…d4f4backed Magic77c3,000$2,310 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$69021951.1%112 W · 107 L+7.4wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+9.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8166…6770backed Magic78c3,000$2,340 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6602759.3%16 W · 11 L-0.5wins-0.02per pick61cpaid+8.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x94e5…6cfebacked Bulls27c3,000$800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8004456.8%25 W · 19 L+2.0wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Magic71c3,000$2,140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8601,75240.6%712 W · 1,040 L-3.3wins0.00per pick41cpaid-5.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa07d…9871backed Magic47c3,000$1,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,60022846.1%105 W · 123 L-6.0wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-11.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x17e0…80aebacked Bulls12c2,995$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$349.9110049%49 W · 51 L+0.4wins0.00per pick49cpaid+16.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Bulls23c2,931$687 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$687.459,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7d5c…0182backed Magic77c2,912$2,237 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$674.5147751.8%247 W · 230 L+1.6wins0.00per pick51cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb9fc…da76backed Bulls22c2,500$550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55085147.5%404 W · 447 L-7.6wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1bc6…c936backed Bulls41c2,439$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00015547.1%73 W · 82 L+5.3wins+0.03per pick44cpaid+4.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9cb4…8285backed Magic59c2,409$1,411 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$998.1743958.8%258 W · 181 L+10.0wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x27c5…6d61backed Bulls21c2,381$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5004040%16 W · 24 L+2.9wins+0.07per pick33cpaid+17.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xf65d…e573backed Bulls40c2,325$922 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$921.613663.9%23 W · 13 L+2.5wins+0.07per pick57cpaid+8.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xfefb…4b5dbacked Magic73c2,254$1,638 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$615.8581529.4%240 W · 575 L-37.0wins-0.05per pick34cpaid-43%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xbce9…03e9backed Bulls1c2,241$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28.418820%0 W · 882 L-6.7wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbfa3…bce6backed Bulls23c2,174$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5001827.8%5 W · 13 L-1.5wins-0.08per pick36cpaid-27.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2785…2dddbacked Bulls24c2,169$527 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$527.261752.9%9 W · 8 L+3.4wins+0.20per pick33cpaid+70%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x6ade…f5b0backed Magic56c2,150$1,206 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9441,55652.8%822 W · 734 L+40.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+10.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1013…87d5backed Magic50c2,101$1,045 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,056.348863.6%56 W · 32 L+6.2wins+0.07per pick57cpaid+5.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xd78d…60bebacked Bulls28c2,062$573 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$573.3225016.8%42 W · 208 L-13.1wins-0.05per pick22cpaid-38.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x9a7f…4b5dbacked Magic75c2,037$1,528 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$509.349851%50 W · 48 L+5.1wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+11.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x306a…0d29backed Magic77c2,021$1,556 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4658048.8%39 W · 41 L-5.0wins-0.06per pick55cpaid-12.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xd1ed…d7cbbacked Magic79c2,000$1,574 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$426.031,22637.4%458 W · 768 L+7.6wins+0.01per pick37cpaid-21.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3dd4…1b50backed Magic78c1,949$1,520 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$428.7894951.3%487 W · 462 L-21.2wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9318…a645backed Magic60c1,922$1,151 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$770.9721548.4%104 W · 111 L+0.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2ada…2f28backed Bulls1c1,895$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.9564517.1%110 W · 535 L-11.9wins-0.02per pick19cpaid-44.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x781c…db68backed Magic51c1,790$913 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$877.11,38439.4%545 W · 839 L+4.8wins0.00per pick39cpaid-21.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3450…6793backed Bulls40c1,731$700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70017441.4%72 W · 102 L-4.2wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-5.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4ee7…0ba8backed Bulls24c1,685$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4006544.6%29 W · 36 L+1.5wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+7.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Bulls39c1,664$657 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$656.92,63036.7%966 W · 1,664 L-119.1wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-25.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5d1e…d5dfbacked Magic72c1,583$1,133 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$450.2817153.8%92 W · 79 L+8.4wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+4.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x7c22…8f64backed Bulls53c1,577$836 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$836.34728.6%2 W · 5 L-1.6wins-0.23per pick52cpaid-19.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2800…4dd0backed Magic53c1,505$800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$704.64944.4%4 W · 5 L-1.3wins-0.14per pick59cpaid-29.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Bulls24c1,500$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3603,59150.1%1,798 W · 1,793 L+21.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0306…dcf6backed Magic48c1,470$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$769.819839.8%39 W · 59 L-12.3wins-0.13per pick52cpaid-28.2%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x5375…aeeabacked Bulls38c1,452$555 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$554.5785742.6%365 W · 492 L-15.6wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-13.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb820…cbe7backed Magic70c1,400$980 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42058951.3%302 W · 287 L+6.2wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 7 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.