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WNBA · resolved market

New York Liberty vs. Dallas Wings

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
New York Libertyof New York Liberty, Dallas Wings
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
WNBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$116,223
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$113,726

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $116,223 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 164 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in WNBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in WNBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xb915…8da5backed New York Liberty51c57,056$29,028 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28,028.216848.5%33 W · 35 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-5.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed Dallas Wings48c19,160$9,279 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,279.0831043.2%134 W · 176 L+6.6wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-10.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x27f7…44b0backed New York Liberty45c11,101$5,016 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,085.2636154%195 W · 166 L+0.7wins0.00per pick54cpaid-0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7e59…7b8bbacked Dallas Wings44c7,115$3,157 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,156.9115741.4%65 W · 92 L+2.6wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-14.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x7300…e52cbacked Dallas Wings52c5,656$2,941 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,941.0410445.2%47 W · 57 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+0.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8717…32c2backed Dallas Wings55c5,500$3,025 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,0257950.6%40 W · 39 L-1.4wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-4.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf438…9559backed New York Liberty52c4,783$2,487 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,295.77757.1%4 W · 3 L+0.6wins+0.09per pick49cpaid+12.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1a2f…647abacked Dallas Wings51c3,890$1,984 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,983.910838.9%42 W · 66 L+6.8wins+0.06per pick33cpaid-9.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Dallas Wings35c3,774$1,335 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,334.7734726.5%92 W · 255 L-20.7wins-0.06per pick32cpaid-39.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x38ce…1581backed Dallas Wings48c2,220$1,066 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,065.630%0 W · 3 L-1.4wins-0.46per pick46cpaid-100%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xdebb…eedbbacked Dallas Wings48c1,893$909 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$908.721250%6 W · 6 L-0.8wins-0.06per pick56cpaid-15.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe2ef…5a1cbacked Dallas Wings50c1,849$916 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$915.848146.9%38 W · 43 L-0.4wins0.00per pick47cpaid-4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8bcf…c767backed Dallas Wings49c1,844$894 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$894.199140.7%37 W · 54 L-6.5wins-0.07per pick48cpaid-14.6%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x84cf…2f63backed Dallas Wings50c1,769$880 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$880.2923245.7%106 W · 126 L-5.9wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-2.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed New York Liberty46c1,700$781 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$919.3683748.1%403 W · 434 L+2.5wins0.00per pick48cpaid-0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed Dallas Wings53c1,513$802 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$801.8289349.4%441 W · 452 L+5.1wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1065…6218backed Dallas Wings48c1,455$698 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$698.223839.5%15 W · 23 L-3.4wins-0.09per pick48cpaid-20.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xdd5e…9040backed Dallas Wings50c1,446$720 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$720.1424347.7%116 W · 127 L-5.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-5.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd619…c461backed Dallas Wings46c1,414$650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$650.2319446.4%90 W · 104 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-6.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x21f3…35e3backed Dallas Wings48c1,339$643 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$642.5246247%217 W · 245 L-0.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc249…8a61backed Dallas Wings48c1,300$630 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63011250%56 W · 56 L+5.1wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+14%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xeaac…d71dbacked Dallas Wings48c1,250$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6004652.2%24 W · 22 L+4.5wins+0.10per pick42cpaid+39.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xf6aa…4e0ebacked Dallas Wings48c1,100$528 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52810%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.48per pick48cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0dad…4855backed New York Liberty52c1,100$572 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$527.993961.5%24 W · 15 L+3.4wins+0.09per pick53cpaid+16.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xf3a6…71bdbacked Dallas Wings50c1,092$541 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$541.165657.1%32 W · 24 L+3.3wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+11%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x5213…6a35backed Dallas Wings48c1,042$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$499.995044%22 W · 28 L+1.4wins+0.03per pick41cpaid+12.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbd0c…c1f2backed Dallas Wings48c1,014$487 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$486.76250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid-5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8314…0f1ebacked Dallas Wings52c1,000$520 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52010548.6%51 W · 54 L-1.8wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-3.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x5268…135dbacked Dallas Wings53c982.45$517 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$517.311,76551.7%912 W · 853 L+53.4wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0373…4057backed New York Liberty47c888$417 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$470.648733.3%29 W · 58 L+1.6wins+0.02per pick32cpaid+0.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xf7f0…912cbacked Dallas Wings50c796.69$398 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$397.792248.8%450 W · 472 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x032e…2a9ebacked Dallas Wings51c793$408 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$407.8832049.4%158 W · 162 L-4.4wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-0.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf1ee…519cbacked Dallas Wings53c781.26$414 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$414.1715250.7%77 W · 75 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-11.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x84d7…298fbacked New York Liberty48c758.82$368 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$390.961656.3%9 W · 7 L+1.2wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+21.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8845…360ebacked Dallas Wings50c709$352 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$352.03475%3 W · 1 L+1.2wins+0.31per pick44cpaid+97.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x920a…29e0backed Dallas Wings48c677.65$325 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$325.27850%4 W · 4 L-0.5wins-0.06per pick56cpaid-26.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x775d…6bebbacked Dallas Wings54c646$346 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$345.8530649%150 W · 156 L+0.6wins0.00per pick49cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x52d9…fb1abacked Dallas Wings52c644.57$336 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$335.8841145.7%188 W · 223 L-7.9wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe8e0…7eecbacked Dallas Wings53c611.72$323 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$323.223955.2%132 W · 107 L+12.1wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xfb0c…8c72backed Dallas Wings56c600.01$335 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$334.5832750.2%164 W · 163 L+2.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid0%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x222b…1a8dbacked Dallas Wings49c592.53$293 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$292.6710634.9%37 W · 69 L-1.6wins-0.02per pick36cpaid-30.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7edb…7993backed Dallas Wings47c551.95$261 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$261.2316633.1%55 W · 111 L-10.1wins-0.06per pick39cpaid-39.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2934…0b51backed Dallas Wings52c550$286 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28610337.9%39 W · 64 L+0.3wins0.00per pick38cpaid+7.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed New York Liberty48c514.21$247 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$267.664152%333 W · 308 L+6.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x57b2…9da2backed Dallas Wings55c500$275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2756845.6%31 W · 37 L-2.9wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-7.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0d2d…7ff5backed New York Liberty62c500$310 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19032150.2%161 W · 160 L+7.5wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-11.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x26d6…caccbacked Dallas Wings46c474.73$219 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$218.5519031.1%59 W · 131 L-14.2wins-0.07per pick39cpaid-43.6%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x1ba2…d212backed Dallas Wings50c462.79$231 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$231.3715048%72 W · 78 L-0.6wins0.00per pick48cpaid-12.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1df2…89a0backed Dallas Wings52c451.81$237 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$237.1619428.9%56 W · 138 L-2.7wins-0.01per pick30cpaid-17.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1967…30b5backed Dallas Wings49c424.89$206 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$206.334141.5%17 W · 24 L-2.8wins-0.07per pick48cpaid-21.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2f26…0d8fbacked Dallas Wings51c395$201 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201.4514936.9%55 W · 94 L-4.3wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-30.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x076d…8d4cbacked Dallas Wings51c387.05$199 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$198.7638645.9%177 W · 209 L-15.6wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-10.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x29d9…724ebacked Dallas Wings55c365.99$201 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201.291421.4%3 W · 11 L-1.7wins-0.12per pick34cpaid-47.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf02f…1ed8backed Dallas Wings50c364$182 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1823351.5%17 W · 16 L+0.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+8.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x999a…9a25backed Dallas Wings48c328.39$158 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$157.8610538.1%40 W · 65 L-4.2wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-31.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Dallas Wings51c292.8$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$150.1331847.8%152 W · 166 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-16.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc291…5d74backed Dallas Wings51c279.86$142 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$141.6474942.3%317 W · 432 L-21.7wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-11.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x5659…7a6bbacked Dallas Wings40c269.06$109 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$108.7430734.2%105 W · 202 L-28.2wins-0.09per pick43cpaid-23.6%equal weight41-0.09 edge/pick
0xb8f6…4f7fbacked Dallas Wings48c266.52$128 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$127.931855.6%10 W · 8 L+0.8wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xaa61…7f3bbacked Dallas Wings57c260$148 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$148.228558.6%167 W · 118 L+20.0wins+0.07per pick52cpaid+12.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xadbc…8af3backed Dallas Wings53c251.99$134 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$133.553756.8%21 W · 16 L+2.1wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+11%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x01ee…fc4bbacked Dallas Wings54c243.14$132 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$131.781650%8 W · 8 L+0.7wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+14.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x36b3…e421backed Dallas Wings55c241.31$133 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$132.7234448%165 W · 179 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x629d…756cbacked Dallas Wings52c228.28$119 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119.0531448.4%152 W · 162 L0.0wins0.00per pick48cpaid-12.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd981…c309backed Dallas Wings53c200$106 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1062462.5%15 W · 9 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick62cpaid-1.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf990…88bcbacked Dallas Wings47c200$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$943135.5%11 W · 20 L+1.2wins+0.04per pick31cpaid+14%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdd6b…e0f3backed New York Liberty48c196.38$94 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$102.284369.8%30 W · 13 L+7.8wins+0.18per pick52cpaid+34.9%equal weight63+0.12 edge/pick
0x6027…4320backed New York Liberty45c189.99$85 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104.4929654.4%161 W · 135 L+11.5wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+6.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xa9be…08bebacked Dallas Wings55c181.99$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.09922.2%2 W · 7 L-1.0wins-0.12per pick34cpaid-44.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdf0a…a9e0backed Dallas Wings57c175.79$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10010%0 W · 1 L-0.6wins-0.57per pick57cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3a21…4aa9backed Dallas Wings57c175.44$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1001625%4 W · 12 L-1.5wins-0.10per pick35cpaid-14.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8a80…11c5backed Dallas Wings50c170.67$86 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$85.769146.2%42 W · 49 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-12%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8fe7…6c1fbacked Dallas Wings46c163$75 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$74.955457.4%31 W · 23 L+3.3wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+0.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xafaf…1635backed Dallas Wings43c153.64$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65.676934.8%24 W · 45 L-3.1wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-34.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5210…bd53backed Dallas Wings50c153.42$77 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$76.8361547%289 W · 326 L-19.0wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-8.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc825…6696backed Dallas Wings56c142.07$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$80520%1 W · 4 L-1.1wins-0.21per pick41cpaid-61.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x224f…514abacked New York Liberty46c141.28$65 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$76.2917946.4%83 W · 96 L-6.7wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-9.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xb43e…8200backed Dallas Wings48c135.63$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65.13938.5%15 W · 24 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3404…10d2backed Dallas Wings53c133.94$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70.6415938.4%61 W · 98 L-16.5wins-0.10per pick49cpaid-21.5%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x8e5c…2ba2backed Dallas Wings61c132.14$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$801060%6 W · 4 L+0.6wins+0.06per pick54cpaid-5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd72d…0dbbbacked Dallas Wings55c130$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.52123.8%5 W · 16 L-2.4wins-0.12per pick35cpaid-42.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xda77…683fbacked Dallas Wings48c128$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61.4437650.3%189 W · 187 L+8.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-12.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6b23…331cbacked Dallas Wings59c122.73$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.883865.8%25 W · 13 L-0.9wins-0.02per pick68cpaid-4.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xaedd…ad5bbacked Dallas Wings51c117.74$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$59.645062%31 W · 19 L+2.9wins+0.06per pick56cpaid+10%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1dd2…9e07backed New York Liberty45c116.67$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.1732948.6%160 W · 169 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbb8e…08c1backed New York Liberty56c116$65 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.049938.4%38 W · 61 L-6.2wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-29.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x55e7…4fb9backed Dallas Wings49c113.45$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55.599351.6%48 W · 45 L+5.7wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+14.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x9e3e…f882backed Dallas Wings54c112.38$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.9123746.4%110 W · 127 L-10.1wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-11%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2688…9197backed Dallas Wings51c112.31$57 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$57.283046.7%14 W · 16 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick49cpaid+4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf5f8…131abacked Dallas Wings48c104.17$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5010%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.48per pick48cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x173c…a5aabacked Dallas Wings48c102.56$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.23250%1 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-13.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2b35…0bfebacked New York Liberty44c100$44 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.539947.1%188 W · 211 L+2.9wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x74f9…6024backed Dallas Wings49c100$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$493246.9%15 W · 17 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-17.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1fd6…d4a0backed Dallas Wings48c100$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.2wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-15.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9696…2bc3backed Dallas Wings53c100$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$536152.5%32 W · 29 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe342…b692backed New York Liberty47c100$47 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$532263.6%14 W · 8 L+2.6wins+0.12per pick52cpaid+23.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xd17a…0373backed New York Liberty46c100$46 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5427049.6%134 W · 136 L-5.3wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe34c…ca55backed Dallas Wings49c100$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49666.7%4 W · 2 L+0.5wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+11.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf1f2…8c8dbacked Dallas Wings40c89.48$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.348447.6%40 W · 44 L-1.7wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-6.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x67af…61eebacked Dallas Wings50c83.57$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41.6234753.9%187 W · 160 L+20.0wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+0.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in WNBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 6 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.