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Ncaa Basketball · resolved market

Spread: SMU Mustangs (-7.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Miami (OH) RedHawksof SMU Mustangs, Miami (OH) RedHawks
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Ncaa Basketballevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$159,013

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $159,013 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

All 94 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Ncaa Basketball is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Ncaa Basketball
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xabb8…bba3backed SMU Mustangs51c50,000$25,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25,499.9624351.4%125 W · 118 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa974…ef79backed SMU Mustangs51c28,239$14,402 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14,402.122040%8 W · 12 L-1.1wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-12.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xacae…6798backed Miami (OH) RedHawks51c19,348$9,858 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,489.6710749.5%53 W · 54 L+3.1wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+3.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf638…aa50backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c14,363$7,038 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,325.161136.4%4 W · 7 L-1.4wins-0.13per pick49cpaid-33.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x20d6…3856backed SMU Mustangs46c13,815$6,355 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,354.8121262.3%132 W · 80 L+34.7wins+0.16per pick46cpaid+37%equal weight66+0.15 edge/pick
0xe7a2…ae70backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c12,975$6,358 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,61714854.1%80 W · 68 L+7.5wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+8.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf988…d63bbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks49c12,082$5,920 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,162.0212251.6%63 W · 59 L+4.9wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+10.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8454…331abacked SMU Mustangs49c11,587$5,694 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,693.753732.4%12 W · 25 L-5.0wins-0.13per pick46cpaid-37.9%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x2a2c…9bc1backed Miami (OH) RedHawks53c10,078$5,381 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,697.4217742.9%76 W · 101 L+0.8wins0.00per pick42cpaid-12.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6ff9…a78bbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks49c9,763$4,784 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,979.05977.8%7 W · 2 L+2.3wins+0.25per pick52cpaid+45.7%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x762e…4bf0backed Miami (OH) RedHawks50c9,641$4,857 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,783.869652.1%50 W · 46 L-2.0wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-3.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked SMU Mustangs46c9,132$4,234 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,234.012,89650%1,448 W · 1,448 L+71.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+5.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x915e…2a71backed SMU Mustangs49c8,000$3,920 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,92050%0 W · 5 L-1.9wins-0.39per pick39cpaid-100%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xc33a…3da3backed SMU Mustangs50c6,955$3,477 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,477.298432.1%27 W · 57 L-6.8wins-0.08per pick40cpaid-11.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xd1e6…1dc1backed Miami (OH) RedHawks50c6,292$3,146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,145.855341.5%22 W · 31 L-3.4wins-0.06per pick48cpaid-18.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks49c5,945$2,913 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,031.8512,42249.8%6,191 W · 6,231 L+118.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x37c1…c53abacked SMU Mustangs46c5,893$2,709 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,709.4246246.5%215 W · 247 L-6.8wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-5.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x21f3…35e3backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c4,951$2,426 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,524.841,15248.9%563 W · 589 L+3.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks49c3,678$1,802 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,875.551,43647.5%682 W · 754 L-18.2wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xaa59…75ecbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks50c2,725$1,355 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,370.5414346.9%67 W · 76 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick48cpaid+1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf41a…ea2bbacked SMU Mustangs49c2,222$1,089 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,088.782,68748.5%1,303 W · 1,384 L+4.8wins0.00per pick48cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc405…4affbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks50c2,001$1,001 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,000.53548.6%17 W · 18 L+1.0wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5e30…acbfbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks51c1,946$992 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$953.4950548.9%247 W · 258 L+13.1wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xcdf6…d7f7backed Miami (OH) RedHawks54c1,836$991 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$844.345552.7%29 W · 26 L+0.9wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-6.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x231a…a82fbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks50c1,626$813 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$812.83742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.2wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-15.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8753…85adbacked SMU Mustangs50c1,593$796 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$796.4715858.2%92 W · 66 L+10.4wins+0.07per pick52cpaid+13.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x4818…bf0bbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks49c1,576$772 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$803.513661.1%22 W · 14 L+6.3wins+0.18per pick44cpaid+31.2%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0xc42c…42a1backed Miami (OH) RedHawks50c1,477$735 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$741.5263551.5%327 W · 308 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x7771…009fbacked SMU Mustangs48c1,369$664 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$663.5512344.7%55 W · 68 L-3.4wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2302…d6d2backed Miami (OH) RedHawks55c1,230$677 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$553.6819958.3%116 W · 83 L+15.7wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+7.8%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Miami (OH) RedHawks54c1,205$646 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$559.314,38240.5%1,775 W · 2,607 L+23.7wins+0.01per pick40cpaid-6.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5623…6930backed SMU Mustangs49c1,000$490 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4902050%10 W · 10 L+0.5wins+0.02per pick48cpaid0%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf3ef…7be6backed SMU Mustangs50c1,000$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5005855.2%32 W · 26 L+3.0wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+9.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xae82…faf0backed SMU Mustangs52c991.26$515 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$515.466342.9%27 W · 36 L-6.3wins-0.10per pick53cpaid-21.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xd6a8…58fdbacked SMU Mustangs47c839.66$392 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$391.557540%30 W · 45 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-4.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4b8a…f4a4backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c836.74$410 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$426.6518556.8%105 W · 80 L+14.2wins+0.08per pick49cpaid+15.8%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x6859…fb90backed Miami (OH) RedHawks51c791.06$403 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$387.6212749.6%63 W · 64 L-0.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9764…c40cbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks50c727.88$364 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$364.025253.8%28 W · 24 L-0.1wins0.00per pick54cpaid-1.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3100…9bc9backed SMU Mustangs46c695.96$320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$320.146640.9%27 W · 39 L-1.9wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-7.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x841c…555fbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks51c597.73$305 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$292.89250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb2ca…d984backed Miami (OH) RedHawks51c583.09$297 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$285.7116253.1%86 W · 76 L+2.5wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+5.1%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x8532…738bbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks49c545.19$267 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$278.0517051.2%87 W · 83 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x298c…3e58backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c463.26$227 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$236.264151.2%21 W · 20 L+2.0wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+4.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf5aa…4464backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c442.04$217 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$225.4415850%79 W · 79 L-0.3wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5b20…99e9backed SMU Mustangs50c436.15$218 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$218.0879448.9%388 W · 406 L+1.6wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe87d…9906backed Miami (OH) RedHawks51c388.73$198 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$190.481770.6%12 W · 5 L+3.3wins+0.19per pick51cpaid+36.9%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Miami (OH) RedHawks71c369.7$264 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$106.035,55347.4%2,634 W · 2,919 L+26.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-3.6%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x459f…c1f5backed Miami (OH) RedHawks50c347.53$174 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$173.775350.9%27 W · 26 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0f8e…3082backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c301.21$148 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$153.623,68442.8%1,576 W · 2,108 L+32.6wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-5.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x66df…7ea5backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c252.87$124 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$128.9611257.1%64 W · 48 L+1.7wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd809…6542backed Miami (OH) RedHawks55c230.86$127 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$103.8811456.1%64 W · 50 L+4.6wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+4.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x6a45…1405backed Miami (OH) RedHawks54c218.33$119 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$99.374953.1%26 W · 23 L+1.9wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+4.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x69ac…03e9backed Miami (OH) RedHawks55c206.61$114 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$92.987258.3%42 W · 30 L+6.0wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+4.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xa84d…74a8backed Miami (OH) RedHawks50c198.25$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$99.138444%37 W · 47 L+0.4wins0.00per pick44cpaid-3.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xea4b…dedebacked Miami (OH) RedHawks51c195.28$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$95.699947.5%47 W · 52 L-4.1wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-6.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xa8f3…e544backed Miami (OH) RedHawks54c188.35$102 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$86.6457448.3%277 W · 297 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x89c9…9534backed Miami (OH) RedHawks53c188.34$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$88.5241554.2%225 W · 190 L-0.4wins0.00per pick54cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8229…d474backed Miami (OH) RedHawks53c187.03$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.91728.6%2 W · 5 L-1.3wins-0.19per pick47cpaid-33.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xa081…77e6backed Miami (OH) RedHawks51c184.12$94 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90.369454.3%51 W · 43 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0c99…0c88backed SMU Mustangs42c171.75$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.491,23444.8%553 W · 681 L-32.8wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-8.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb107…a3f8backed SMU Mustangs51c160$82 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$81.68535.3%30 W · 55 L-8.8wins-0.10per pick46cpaid-25.4%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x9868…e82bbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks51c155.49$79 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$76.1910144.6%45 W · 56 L-3.5wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-18%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x299f…2140backed Miami (OH) RedHawks53c139.56$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$65.597045.7%32 W · 38 L-3.6wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-15.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x08d1…28adbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks51c116.61$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.145944.1%26 W · 33 L-4.2wins-0.07per pick51cpaid-14.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x4f38…39f2backed Miami (OH) RedHawks53c112.22$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$52.742050%10 W · 10 L-0.7wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-12.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x4880…5626backed Miami (OH) RedHawks55c111.05$61 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.974860.4%29 W · 19 L+3.5wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+6.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xc816…7a20backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c101.15$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.594148.8%20 W · 21 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-0.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x843a…2687backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c101.15$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51.597450%37 W · 37 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5871…0defbacked SMU Mustangs50c99.3$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.654348.8%21 W · 22 L+5.2wins+0.12per pick37cpaid+19%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x50e9…5efebacked Miami (OH) RedHawks51c99.13$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$48.574858.3%28 W · 20 L+2.4wins+0.05per pick53cpaid+15.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8ce8…2f9ebacked Miami (OH) RedHawks50c98.08$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$48.5530652%159 W · 147 L+6.2wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+0.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x05aa…aca6backed Miami (OH) RedHawks53c91.34$48 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.094344.2%19 W · 24 L-1.9wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-10.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa2c2…ad6bbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks51c84.26$43 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41.291560%9 W · 6 L+1.5wins+0.10per pick50cpaid+10.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x602d…3534backed Miami (OH) RedHawks50c69.39$35 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$34.6913050%65 W · 65 L-2.3wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-3.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xc01d…2e79backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c59.48$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30.335354.7%29 W · 24 L+3.0wins+0.06per pick49cpaid+17.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8118…8c36backed Miami (OH) RedHawks50c59.48$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.74875%6 W · 2 L+2.0wins+0.25per pick50cpaid+57.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x9fcd…f802backed SMU Mustangs46c57.69$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26.54862.5%5 W · 3 L+1.0wins+0.13per pick50cpaid+50.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3920…23e7backed Miami (OH) RedHawks51c52.48$27 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.7119554.9%107 W · 88 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x15e3…b3e8backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c50.57$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.795444.4%24 W · 30 L-1.4wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-12.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5fb3…88c1backed Miami (OH) RedHawks54c49.57$27 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22.810755.1%59 W · 48 L+0.2wins0.00per pick55cpaid-10.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd4d5…a8dabacked Miami (OH) RedHawks50c49.56$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.781145.5%5 W · 6 L-0.3wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-14.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xeb91…f1edbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks50c49.07$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24.534353.5%23 W · 20 L+1.4wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+6.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2e6c…e09cbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks55c44.27$24 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.923959%23 W · 16 L+2.8wins+0.07per pick52cpaid+10.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x6a66…2c23backed Miami (OH) RedHawks50c39.65$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.834163.4%26 W · 15 L+4.2wins+0.10per pick53cpaid+17.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xa23c…ae92backed SMU Mustangs50c39.65$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.833735.1%13 W · 24 L-7.1wins-0.19per pick54cpaid-33.5%equal weight37-0.11 edge/pick
0x73a2…3b68backed Miami (OH) RedHawks55c38.73$21 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17.2933445.5%152 W · 182 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-6.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd479…be37backed Miami (OH) RedHawks50c38.24$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.234443.2%19 W · 25 L-0.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid-7.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x112e…0d1fbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks51c33.04$17 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16.194652.2%24 W · 22 L-3.5wins-0.08per pick60cpaid-14.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x4ae6…8796backed SMU Mustangs48c32.86$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.93425%1 W · 3 L-0.9wins-0.22per pick47cpaid-43.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x02f7…b17abacked Miami (OH) RedHawks55c32.44$18 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.6475%3 W · 1 L+0.8wins+0.19per pick56cpaid+37.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd774…82cdbacked Miami (OH) RedHawks50c29.68$15 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14.846747.8%32 W · 35 L-1.7wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-5.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd4da…3175backed Miami (OH) RedHawks49c21.81$11 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11.1289850%449 W · 449 L+7.1wins+0.01per pick49cpaid0%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xebe4…fa32backed Miami (OH) RedHawks50c20$10 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$101844.4%8 W · 10 L-1.8wins-0.10per pick54cpaid-14.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6c04…a593backed SMU Mustangs52c19.25$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.011656.3%9 W · 7 L+0.7wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+10%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Ncaa Basketball and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 13 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.