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Lol · resolved market

Game Handicap: JDG (-2.5) vs LOUD (+2.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
JD Gamingof JD Gaming, LOUD
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$338,304

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $338,304 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 291 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x1341…0853backed LOUD42c40,591$16,959 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16,959.341,82745.6%834 W · 993 L+26.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x9bad…861fbacked JD Gaming59c23,786$14,034 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,752.253246.9%15 W · 17 L-0.9wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-8.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x12ec…41aebacked LOUD25c21,810$5,451 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,450.699435.1%33 W · 61 L-1.8wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked LOUD41c17,604$7,237 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,237.390348.4%437 W · 466 L+14.5wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+7.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5d5c…4302backed JD Gaming75c13,467$10,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,366.6717949.2%88 W · 91 L-5.1wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x85d5…45eebacked JD Gaming57c13,147$7,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,647.1859558.3%347 W · 248 L-29.3wins-0.05per pick63cpaid-10.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xef27…381bbacked JD Gaming59c11,865$7,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,865.368951.7%46 W · 43 L+2.3wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+12%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked LOUD42c11,287$4,716 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,716.211,22448.3%591 W · 633 L+26.5wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x498c…42bfbacked JD Gaming57c10,052$5,721 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,330.996131.1%19 W · 42 L-3.7wins-0.06per pick37cpaid-28.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x336b…1233backed LOUD43c8,191$3,486 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,485.963923.1%9 W · 30 L-7.0wins-0.18per pick41cpaid-52%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0x871f…5ac9backed JD Gaming77c8,046$6,163 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,882.65580%4 W · 1 L+0.4wins+0.07per pick73cpaid+12.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc65c…ea39backed LOUD43c7,620$3,276 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,276.4312759.8%76 W · 51 L+5.7wins+0.04per pick55cpaid+10.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xf0b6…2fefbacked JD Gaming75c6,667$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,666.673050%15 W · 15 L-4.4wins-0.15per pick65cpaid-25.7%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked LOUD24c6,281$1,501 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,501.12,40642.6%1,026 W · 1,380 L+21.5wins+0.01per pick42cpaid-5.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0659…d74dbacked LOUD22c5,635$1,229 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,228.5478050%390 W · 390 L+13.3wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8dd1…5a9bbacked LOUD44c4,545$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,00022757.3%130 W · 97 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick57cpaid+5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x67e6…86edbacked LOUD24c4,380$1,046 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,045.9319648%94 W · 102 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+8.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x76b4…ca9bbacked JD Gaming57c4,200$2,394 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,805.9644550.1%223 W · 222 L-5.9wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-8.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xeffd…5a86backed LOUD42c4,000$1,680 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,679.9944047.5%209 W · 231 L+11.7wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7645…3117backed JD Gaming56c3,710$2,078 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,632.4182352.7%434 W · 389 L+41.8wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+15.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xe3dc…eaa8backed JD Gaming57c3,509$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,508.771450%7 W · 7 L+0.3wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc1ae…f001backed LOUD43c3,480$1,496 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,496.0410521%22 W · 83 L-10.5wins-0.10per pick31cpaid-2.4%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x3290…d1ffbacked JD Gaming61c3,272$1,991 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,281.5311251.8%58 W · 54 L-4.2wins-0.04per pick55cpaid-9.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb8cb…8f46backed LOUD43c3,000$1,290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,289.9948440.5%196 W · 288 L-5.8wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked LOUD43c3,000$1,290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,289.979341.9%39 W · 54 L+2.3wins+0.02per pick39cpaid-2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x842a…7422backed LOUD42c2,885$1,205 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,204.9852848.9%258 W · 270 L-9.6wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0bb3…12c6backed JD Gaming58c2,769$1,606 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,162.778659.3%51 W · 35 L-2.6wins-0.03per pick62cpaid-1.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xaab1…9b4fbacked JD Gaming58c2,245$1,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$944.619456.4%53 W · 41 L-5.6wins-0.06per pick62cpaid-9.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x9560…9467backed JD Gaming56c2,006$1,123 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$882.6520454.9%112 W · 92 L0.0wins0.00per pick55cpaid-7.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7234…1d85backed JD Gaming57c2,000$1,140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$859.9614637.7%55 W · 91 L-5.0wins-0.03per pick41cpaid+10.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe308…25cdbacked JD Gaming57c2,000$1,140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$859.9266437.2%247 W · 417 L-12.8wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x959f…9e2fbacked JD Gaming78c1,884$1,473 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$410.8510352.4%54 W · 49 L-10.0wins-0.10per pick62cpaid-21.8%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x45c5…558dbacked JD Gaming77c1,782$1,375 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$407.342958.6%17 W · 12 L-3.9wins-0.13per pick72cpaid-22.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x7a0f…1305backed JD Gaming60c1,777$1,066 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$710.81,46361.4%899 W · 564 L-19.5wins-0.01per pick63cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4df2…d357backed JD Gaming59c1,731$1,022 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$709.9140959.2%242 W · 167 L-5.7wins-0.01per pick61cpaid-3.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa19d…3909backed LOUD25c1,524$376 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$375.611,52150.6%769 W · 752 L+3.8wins0.00per pick50cpaid+1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1064…f153backed JD Gaming57c1,500$855 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64549549.1%243 W · 252 L+9.2wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd04d…bfc2backed LOUD44c1,365$601 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$600.597736.4%28 W · 49 L-6.3wins-0.08per pick44cpaid-19.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xd9cb…bdcdbacked JD Gaming75c1,333$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$333.3320649%101 W · 105 L-13.0wins-0.06per pick55cpaid-18%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xc3b8…b4d8backed JD Gaming59c1,300$767 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$533.1543151.3%221 W · 210 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x13c7…11d9backed JD Gaming55c1,300$715 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58571249.2%350 W · 362 L+14.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6eb8…c665backed JD Gaming59c1,270$744 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$525.5433143.8%145 W · 186 L-11.9wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-14.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xb275…c76fbacked JD Gaming58c1,208$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$507.9319244.3%85 W · 107 L-8.9wins-0.05per pick49cpaid-10.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xc926…8058backed JD Gaming59c1,207$712 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$494.9725560.8%155 W · 100 L+9.4wins+0.04per pick57cpaid+6.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xf1ad…6979backed LOUD43c1,157$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50086144.1%380 W · 481 L-10.6wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-4.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3078…0389backed LOUD42c1,147$477 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$476.7244128.1%124 W · 317 L-7.3wins-0.02per pick30cpaid-9.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x33bc…37dcbacked LOUD9c1,100$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9850848.4%246 W · 262 L+13.0wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+0.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf971…0a57backed LOUD34c1,051$357 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$357.1118139.2%71 W · 110 L+5.9wins+0.03per pick36cpaid+5.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6f84…202ebacked JD Gaming58c1,011$586 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$424.8495847.6%456 W · 502 L+1.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid+2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3704…0e84backed LOUD43c1,004$432 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$431.5418347%86 W · 97 L-9.0wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-9.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5623…6930backed JD Gaming56c1,000$560 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44013946%64 W · 75 L+0.5wins0.00per pick46cpaid-6.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe903…6adbbacked JD Gaming56c1,000$560 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44014060%84 W · 56 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick61cpaid-5.9%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed JD Gaming63c1,000$626 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$374.031,43557.4%824 W · 611 L+36.0wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xa5cf…8cc5backed JD Gaming56c999.98$560 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$439.991,18044.5%525 W · 655 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc8da…a6e6backed LOUD42c999.95$420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$419.9812839.8%51 W · 77 L-4.3wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-16.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xde14…72dabacked JD Gaming57c925.97$528 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$398.175050%25 W · 25 L+2.1wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed LOUD33c900$301 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3012,36232%755 W · 1,607 L+42.0wins+0.02per pick30cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa1bf…f357backed LOUD43c897.87$386 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$386.0811340.7%46 W · 67 L-12.4wins-0.11per pick52cpaid-27.1%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x4fbf…4605backed LOUD44c860$377 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$377.2626042.3%110 W · 150 L-8.8wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-9.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4f6a…04ebbacked JD Gaming59c849.74$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$349.7448652.1%253 W · 233 L+2.1wins0.00per pick52cpaid-3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x59aa…3376backed JD Gaming59c810.76$478 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$332.881,13143.1%487 W · 644 L+0.9wins0.00per pick43cpaid+1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe1a6…afa6backed JD Gaming57c785.56$448 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$337.795853.4%31 W · 27 L+3.1wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+8.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x520e…d75abacked LOUD45c769$344 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$343.6528837.5%108 W · 180 L-16.7wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xb61f…976abacked JD Gaming57c722.81$412 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$310.815862.1%36 W · 22 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick63cpaid+0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdc33…aa3ebacked JD Gaming58c673.73$392 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$281.2340237.8%152 W · 250 L-9.7wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-11.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x9eab…7e13backed JD Gaming55c641.3$353 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$288.5916045.6%73 W · 87 L-8.9wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-14%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xa2f0…3206backed LOUD41c635.39$260 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$259.912647.6%60 W · 66 L+3.8wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+9.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x561d…94bebacked JD Gaming63c633.21$401 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$232.3146552.7%245 W · 220 L-4.1wins-0.01per pick54cpaid+0.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0d29…6da9backed JD Gaming57c608.51$347 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$261.6632752.9%173 W · 154 L-6.6wins-0.02per pick55cpaid-6.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4328…11d2backed JD Gaming57c600$342 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25830139.5%119 W · 182 L+0.6wins0.00per pick39cpaid-12.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xda32…04a1backed JD Gaming59c600$354 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24642148.2%203 W · 218 L-8.9wins-0.02per pick50cpaid+36.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xaf16…65a6backed JD Gaming76c575.68$435 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$140.8419055.3%105 W · 85 L-11.6wins-0.06per pick61cpaid-13.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x0969…b289backed LOUD34c531.99$182 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$181.5739750.1%199 W · 198 L+5.5wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd8bd…463dbacked JD Gaming59c530$313 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$216.74450%22 W · 22 L-2.9wins-0.07per pick57cpaid-9.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2160…bcb3backed JD Gaming57c529.42$302 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$227.6592342.7%394 W · 529 L-16.1wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-6.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa629…e15cbacked JD Gaming61c519.99$315 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$204.529264.1%59 W · 33 L+7.4wins+0.08per pick56cpaid+9.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x7da3…5a49backed JD Gaming58c517.24$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$217.245164.7%33 W · 18 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick65cpaid-2.8%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xf592…b62dbacked JD Gaming59c508.47$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$208.4768557.5%394 W · 291 L+5.2wins+0.01per pick57cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6fe9…9c50backed JD Gaming58c500$290 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$210.3626354%142 W · 121 L-16.8wins-0.06per pick60cpaid-12.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xfc3e…776bbacked JD Gaming60c500$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20018520.5%38 W · 147 L-8.4wins-0.05per pick25cpaid-42.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7771…009fbacked JD Gaming59c500$295 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$205.141,00748.2%485 W · 522 L+7.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa750…0d0fbacked LOUD42c499.99$210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$209.9940546.2%187 W · 218 L-1.4wins0.00per pick47cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0640…1cd6backed LOUD43c465.12$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20014935.6%53 W · 96 L-12.7wins-0.09per pick44cpaid-28%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x2271…8170backed LOUD43c465.06$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.972661.5%16 W · 10 L+2.6wins+0.10per pick52cpaid+25%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x72be…c534backed LOUD44c454.55$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2001,11435%390 W · 724 L+14.3wins+0.01per pick34cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x13d6…926ebacked LOUD44c400$176 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17610631.1%33 W · 73 L+3.5wins+0.03per pick28cpaid+1.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3c9b…a556backed JD Gaming58c400$232 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1681693.8%15 W · 1 L+4.2wins+0.26per pick67cpaid+42.1%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0xbb6c…d38ebacked LOUD25c400$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10012850%64 W · 64 L-6.6wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-8.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x7a57…968cbacked JD Gaming57c399.98$228 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$171.9956341%231 W · 332 L-3.5wins-0.01per pick42cpaid0%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0c69…2b8dbacked LOUD41c390.4$162 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$161.5934945.6%159 W · 190 L-0.9wins0.00per pick46cpaid-4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7178…8fb9backed JD Gaming58c389.47$225 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$164.4713057.7%75 W · 55 L+4.2wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+9.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfb03…46dcbacked JD Gaming58c379.98$219 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$161.3942751.5%220 W · 207 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-2.6%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x8059…f1f3backed LOUD42c379.28$161 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$160.824648.4%119 W · 127 L-13.8wins-0.06per pick54cpaid-11.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd306…463dbacked JD Gaming79c354.49$280 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$74.4950158.3%292 W · 209 L-17.7wins-0.04per pick62cpaid-9.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe74b…ee88backed JD Gaming72c354.17$255 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$99.1786251.3%442 W · 420 L+51.5wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+13.5%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x8e3f…6941backed JD Gaming58c353.13$205 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$148.3139447.2%186 W · 208 L+5.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc4b2…4ab2backed JD Gaming58c350$203 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14766445.6%303 W · 361 L+14.3wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+5.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3655…afe9backed JD Gaming59c343.7$202 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$141.26366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.3wins+0.10per pick57cpaid-0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x030d…a226backed LOUD44c343.54$151 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$151.1610%0 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.44per pick44cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7eda…4bb7backed JD Gaming57c342.79$195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$147.448852%254 W · 234 L-2.4wins0.00per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 18 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.