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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: PARIVISION vs 9z - Map 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
PARIVISIONof PARIVISION, 9z
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$428,744
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$460,456

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $428,744 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 383 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x96f7…d6aebacked 9z13c41,353$5,503 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,502.5122129.9%66 W · 155 L+3.7wins+0.02per pick28cpaid-15%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfa88…85a5backed PARIVISION55c21,375$11,702 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,673.0823243.5%101 W · 131 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-3.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x880b…c98bbacked 9z38c19,832$7,551 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,551.441040%164 W · 246 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick41cpaid+1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x56c9…0d9ebacked 9z58c16,093$9,402 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,402.1422468.8%154 W · 70 L-8.2wins-0.04per pick72cpaid-6.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe3d4…2bacbacked PARIVISION71c15,752$11,193 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,559.244957.5%258 W · 191 L-19.7wins-0.04per pick62cpaid-5.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x3da8…80c3backed PARIVISION48c11,802$5,700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,101.5833359.8%199 W · 134 L+5.8wins+0.02per pick58cpaid+1.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3f97…4059backed 9z44c10,099$4,403 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,402.7646149.9%230 W · 231 L-1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8f69…7df1backed 9z42c10,073$4,231 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,230.775450.5%381 W · 373 L+17.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+1.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe96f…ff4bbacked PARIVISION75c7,302$5,455 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,847.88450%2 W · 2 L-0.7wins-0.17per pick67cpaid-30.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed 9z30c6,510$1,945 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,945.161,40738.9%547 W · 860 L-41.9wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-29.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa927…8d9fbacked 9z28c6,305$1,746 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,746.2234559.1%204 W · 141 L+3.5wins+0.01per pick58cpaid+4.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked PARIVISION62c6,064$3,759 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,304.7225555.3%141 W · 114 L+1.2wins0.00per pick55cpaid+2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb754…96dfbacked PARIVISION53c6,011$3,186 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,825.253839.5%15 W · 23 L-1.4wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-15.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3d2b…afc5backed PARIVISION63c5,982$3,773 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,209.0819659.2%116 W · 80 L+18.2wins+0.09per pick50cpaid+2.3%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked PARIVISION61c5,217$3,175 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,042.051,25646.7%587 W · 669 L+17.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-16%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed 9z36c4,830$1,721 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,721.062,32645.1%1,049 W · 1,277 L-62.2wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-16.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x66ea…6791backed PARIVISION54c4,753$2,550 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,203.2817948%86 W · 93 L+4.3wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+9.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x55d9…832cbacked PARIVISION55c4,340$2,395 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,944.119148.4%44 W · 47 L+5.6wins+0.06per pick42cpaid+7.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x18f3…0c20backed PARIVISION57c4,250$2,423 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,827.526155.2%144 W · 117 L+5.7wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd599…bf55backed 9z46c3,694$1,703 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,7037439.2%29 W · 45 L+2.2wins+0.03per pick36cpaid-9.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed PARIVISION58c3,520$2,030 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,490.5987047.9%417 W · 453 L+15.6wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-14%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfd66…f510backed PARIVISION54c3,500$1,890 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,6102642.3%11 W · 15 L-0.5wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-16.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd528…a2d2backed 9z41c3,405$1,381 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,380.5818056.7%102 W · 78 L+8.0wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+2.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1032…c372backed 9z47c3,327$1,552 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,551.77157.7%41 W · 30 L+8.6wins+0.12per pick46cpaid+27.2%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked PARIVISION59c3,066$1,821 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,245.321,51357.2%865 W · 648 L+65.4wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+0.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x41f7…60cfbacked 9z48c3,000$1,427 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,427.258038.8%31 W · 49 L-3.5wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-23%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed PARIVISION58c3,000$1,740 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,259.9946749.7%232 W · 235 L-12.4wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-6.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdc84…04b2backed 9z45c2,957$1,331 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,330.825444.4%24 W · 30 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb57d…07bfbacked 9z46c2,754$1,270 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,27014037.9%53 W · 87 L-5.8wins-0.04per pick42cpaid+13.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x03c5…5f61backed 9z42c2,725$1,145 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,144.5123732.9%78 W · 159 L-8.0wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-15%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc3df…9945backed 9z56c2,701$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50015155%83 W · 68 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick54cpaid-2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9679…9315backed PARIVISION69c2,566$1,760 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$805.518053.8%43 W · 37 L+0.2wins0.00per pick54cpaid+0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa557…6e77backed 9z47c2,538$1,193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,192.8625248.8%123 W · 129 L+6.3wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+0.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x6277…5a3fbacked 9z47c2,512$1,168 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,168.3263541.9%266 W · 369 L+10.2wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed PARIVISION45c2,482$1,110 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,372.142,62451.8%1,359 W · 1,265 L+18.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x634a…6de3backed 9z47c2,439$1,146 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,146.2242651.6%220 W · 206 L-12.3wins-0.03per pick55cpaid-7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0c63…3cbbbacked 9z47c2,342$1,102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,102.546165.5%302 W · 159 L+0.4wins0.00per pick65cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8cbf…0eb4backed 9z46c2,301$1,058 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,058.1537157.7%214 W · 157 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick57cpaid-2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x67bb…b6efbacked PARIVISION53c2,249$1,192 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,057.276058%441 W · 319 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick58cpaid-1.4%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed 9z22c2,229$498 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$498.272,06641.5%858 W · 1,208 L-49.5wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-16.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xaa6c…a9b3backed 9z45c2,222$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0001,16354.3%631 W · 532 L-38.8wins-0.03per pick58cpaid-6.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xc5a8…a8adbacked 9z45c2,202$981 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$980.56850%4 W · 4 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcd66…664fbacked 9z47c2,000$940 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$94038358.7%225 W · 158 L-7.9wins-0.02per pick61cpaid-2.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfed1…eedbbacked PARIVISION53c1,790$949 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$841.192544%11 W · 14 L+0.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid+3.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd8a5…26a1backed PARIVISION56c1,762$987 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$775.4615749.7%78 W · 79 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-6.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1b39…3234backed 9z45c1,750$788 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$787.531345%141 W · 172 L-9.4wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-8.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xddfb…d9bfbacked 9z22c1,660$366 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$366.28955.6%5 W · 4 L-0.2wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-4.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x99bc…4f35backed 9z12c1,605$186 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$185.8916023.8%38 W · 122 L-5.3wins-0.03per pick27cpaid-26.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x98e5…f069backed PARIVISION58c1,585$919 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$665.714763.9%94 W · 53 L+6.2wins+0.04per pick60cpaid+13.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed PARIVISION57c1,572$894 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$677.6488746.7%414 W · 473 L+8.9wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-15.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb7ab…16d0backed PARIVISION48c1,558$755 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$803.781,36566.3%905 W · 460 L+76.1wins+0.06per pick61cpaid+7.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x77ac…1bf6backed 9z56c1,544$866 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$866.3727961.3%171 W · 108 L+12.6wins+0.05per pick57cpaid+4.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x71cf…10fdbacked PARIVISION54c1,500$805 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$695.041947.4%9 W · 10 L+0.8wins+0.04per pick43cpaid-6.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x081e…f76ebacked PARIVISION54c1,481$800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$681.4881751.7%422 W · 395 L-6.0wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8056…b64dbacked 9z44c1,408$622 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6221,62344.9%728 W · 895 L+4.4wins0.00per pick45cpaid-5.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa018…48ecbacked 9z47c1,395$656 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$655.65520%1 W · 4 L-1.3wins-0.26per pick46cpaid-60%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x3af1…d739backed 9z46c1,342$617 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$617.187454.1%40 W · 34 L+3.1wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+5.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd0e9…67ffbacked 9z44c1,250$550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5502740.7%11 W · 16 L-2.4wins-0.09per pick50cpaid-19.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xb410…e482backed 9z46c1,247$578 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$578.251258.3%7 W · 5 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick56cpaid-1.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7e8a…5f49backed 9z22c1,137$254 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$253.6710150.5%51 W · 50 L-7.2wins-0.07per pick58cpaid-16.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x4337…8882backed 9z41c1,111$459 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$459.288242.3%373 W · 509 L-13.0wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-1.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x1365…c82abacked PARIVISION63c1,107$698 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$409.715053.3%80 W · 70 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+4.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x495d…68d8backed 9z44c1,096$482 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$482.2317554.9%96 W · 79 L+2.9wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x421e…1e47backed 9z48c1,052$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5009023.3%21 W · 69 L-9.4wins-0.10per pick34cpaid-32.6%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xb875…ac87backed 9z45c1,022$460 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46016949.1%83 W · 86 L+7.7wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+5.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x66e5…d3c7backed PARIVISION54c1,019$550 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$468.5223354.9%128 W · 105 L-4.1wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-5.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3fc7…62b9backed PARIVISION55c1,010$555 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$454.4932042.5%136 W · 184 L+11.0wins+0.03per pick39cpaid+7.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed 9z45c1,000$450 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4501,25942.5%535 W · 724 L+20.6wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa8e6…d471backed PARIVISION53c1,000$530 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4704264.3%27 W · 15 L+3.0wins+0.07per pick57cpaid+15.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xfffe…4e6cbacked 9z41c994.96$409 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$409.2627749.5%137 W · 140 L0.0wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x29b5…cc6cbacked PARIVISION57c902.85$511 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$391.785,05055.1%2,781 W · 2,269 L+117.2wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x1ff8…5e5dbacked PARIVISION66c894.36$587 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$307.659549.5%47 W · 48 L-4.4wins-0.05per pick54cpaid-10.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xce80…08edbacked PARIVISION57c878.04$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$378.0411947.1%56 W · 63 L-4.5wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-11.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x8aa6…83f9backed 9z59c850.85$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50018442.9%79 W · 105 L-6.5wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-10.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9410…b32ebacked 9z59c847.8$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5006256.5%35 W · 27 L-0.1wins0.00per pick57cpaid-3.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdf37…47fcbacked 9z47c844.99$397 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$397.158942.7%38 W · 51 L-1.7wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-11.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x8b75…6bb0backed PARIVISION54c840.32$450 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$390.325345.3%24 W · 29 L-4.3wins-0.08per pick53cpaid-20.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x96d6…0c2abacked 9z18c838.8$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15011032.7%36 W · 74 L+3.8wins+0.03per pick29cpaid+8.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1d8e…b1c7backed 9z45c835.56$376 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3764551.1%23 W · 22 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4bb6…50fcbacked 9z42c816.18$341 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$340.614044.3%62 W · 78 L-4.7wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-13.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2e3c…08babacked 9z32c793.6$251 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$251.384,69143.6%2,043 W · 2,648 L-83.2wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-21.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked 9z46c775.34$356 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$356.062,22141.3%917 W · 1,304 L-22.6wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-19.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x951f…e430backed 9z39c715.84$280 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28012441.1%51 W · 73 L-7.6wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-18%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xcb9b…6df8backed 9z45c700$315 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31555845.7%255 W · 303 L-11.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0f0b…f901backed PARIVISION53c688.98$366 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$322.6735953.2%191 W · 168 L+14.0wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+10.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb57f…0c96backed PARIVISION53c683.36$364 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$319.6521545.6%98 W · 117 L+8.7wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+8.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xac9c…50d8backed 9z2c674$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.2225416.9%43 W · 211 L-10.1wins-0.04per pick21cpaid-17.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xd32f…1496backed PARIVISION61c666.74$408 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$259.0912759.1%75 W · 52 L+12.0wins+0.09per pick50cpaid+2.6%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x614b…ca37backed 9z44c660.66$291 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$290.6911959.7%71 W · 48 L+7.4wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+5.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc9ea…59a1backed 9z47c638.3$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30019238%73 W · 119 L-8.2wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-13.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xa474…32cbbacked 9z48c615.54$295 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$295.4625846.1%119 W · 139 L+9.6wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+3.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked PARIVISION76c613.42$463 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$150.031,04044%458 W · 582 L-22.2wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-22.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x904e…0becbacked 9z31c605.07$186 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$186.064,93337.4%1,844 W · 3,089 L-249.2wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-32.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x9542…4295backed 9z60c600$359 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$359.071250%6 W · 6 L-0.5wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-14.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x54e0…b02cbacked PARIVISION43c598.89$259 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$339.681,65032.7%540 W · 1,110 L-49.1wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-12.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2785…ce75backed PARIVISION74c581.51$430 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.1913550.4%68 W · 67 L+0.4wins0.00per pick50cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x24eb…75eebacked 9z47c580$273 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$272.618043.3%78 W · 102 L-4.9wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2ca6…6a20backed 9z50c571.28$284 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28447447.5%225 W · 249 L-12.7wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-3.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x969f…cbdcbacked 9z24c557.43$134 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$133.7862738.8%243 W · 384 L-31.2wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-30%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x962d…dc4cbacked 9z41c535.23$220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2208151.9%42 W · 39 L-4.3wins-0.05per pick57cpaid-16.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 9 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.