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NHL · resolved market

Kings vs. Avalanche

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Avalancheof Kings, Avalanche
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NHLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,025,184
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,063,432

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,025,184 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 757 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NHL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NHL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x2a2c…9bc1backed Kings37c147,654$54,602 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54,602.0540351.9%209 W · 194 L+6.9wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x03e8…1697backed Kings30c138,629$41,588 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41,587.8667051%342 W · 328 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9714…76adbacked Kings39c103,973$40,501 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40,500.66250%1 W · 1 L+0.2wins+0.12per pick38cpaid+31.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x47a8…52f9backed Avalanche70c100,000$70,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30,0007545.3%34 W · 41 L-3.8wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-15.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xe1a2…14b8backed Avalanche63c97,780$61,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36,180.23450%17 W · 17 L+0.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-7.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x88d1…18dabacked Avalanche68c58,750$39,950 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18,799.951861.1%11 W · 7 L+1.1wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+16.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfdfc…bf06backed Avalanche63c53,779$33,881 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,898.231100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.37per pick63cpaid+58.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xa2d3…aafbbacked Kings0c51,684$129 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$129.083050%15 W · 15 L+2.1wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x32cc…68b3backed Kings32c37,030$11,900 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,899.7333450.9%170 W · 164 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcf6c…7e66backed Avalanche67c35,066$23,334 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,731.4315949.7%79 W · 80 L-0.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5bec…b215backed Avalanche61c24,622$15,019 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,602.616442.7%70 W · 94 L-3.8wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-6.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xacb2…b989backed Avalanche67c23,286$15,607 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,679.2212950.4%65 W · 64 L+10.7wins+0.08per pick42cpaid+13.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xeb8e…34cebacked Avalanche70c20,082$14,108 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,973.713164.5%20 W · 11 L+2.6wins+0.08per pick56cpaid+8.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xb6ce…a992backed Kings30c19,799$5,940 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,939.612328.5%35 W · 88 L-9.2wins-0.07per pick36cpaid-34.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x37c1…c53abacked Avalanche69c18,799$12,971 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,827.5951550.7%261 W · 254 L+4.1wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x842a…7422backed Avalanche68c18,332$12,485 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,847.0140356.3%227 W · 176 L+5.3wins+0.01per pick55cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Kings56c17,191$9,569 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,568.681,34554.8%737 W · 608 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Kings37c16,599$6,142 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,142.3289636.9%331 W · 565 L-30.9wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-26.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Kings32c12,828$4,158 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,157.842,11242.9%907 W · 1,205 L-10.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid-9.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xf139…1d3bbacked Avalanche71c11,287$7,963 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,323.7771.4%5 W · 2 L+0.6wins+0.09per pick62cpaid+5.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1467…4372backed Avalanche70c10,521$7,365 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,156.4332151.7%166 W · 155 L-1.5wins0.00per pick52cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9ff5…de91backed Kings0c10,341$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.8110%0 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick0cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3e04…564dbacked Avalanche69c10,000$6,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,1001,89152.4%991 W · 900 L+36.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x844e…4efdbacked Avalanche67c9,974$6,680 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,293.555276.9%40 W · 12 L+11.6wins+0.22per pick55cpaid+42.4%equal weight67+0.15 edge/pick
0x32ed…f960backed Avalanche67c9,803$6,588 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,214.7689355.5%496 W · 397 L+67.6wins+0.08per pick48cpaid+12.6%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x3b5a…bb9bbacked Kings37c9,000$3,330 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,3301741.2%7 W · 10 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick43cpaid+15.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9e2f…ec47backed Kings34c8,885$3,021 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,020.894546.7%21 W · 24 L-1.0wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-5.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Avalanche70c8,564$5,995 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,569.3361950.1%310 W · 309 L-7.6wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd7e3…d750backed Avalanche70c7,143$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,142.891942.1%8 W · 11 L-1.5wins-0.08per pick50cpaid-18%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Avalanche70c6,957$4,870 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,086.981,55551.4%800 W · 755 L+12.2wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8a43…da23backed Avalanche71c6,473$4,596 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,877.284100%4 W · 0 L+2.0wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+108.1%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x2b41…e0d3backed Avalanche70c6,187$4,331 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,855.9824457.4%140 W · 104 L-4.9wins-0.02per pick59cpaid-5.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa676…a4c5backed Kings33c6,068$2,002 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,002.4713437.3%50 W · 84 L-0.5wins0.00per pick38cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf7c2…9b8dbacked Avalanche71c5,655$4,015 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,639.913647.2%17 W · 19 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+8.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7736…6d7bbacked Kings33c5,644$1,884 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,883.72520%1 W · 4 L-0.8wins-0.16per pick36cpaid-39.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4924…f328backed Kings39c5,611$2,166 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,166.188345.8%38 W · 45 L-2.7wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-4.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfc08…a137backed Avalanche66c5,444$3,618 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,825.930259.6%180 W · 122 L+31.0wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+16.7%equal weight61+0.09 edge/pick
0xf5e1…5ad0backed Kings31c5,256$1,629 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,629.2233151.7%171 W · 160 L+9.0wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+7.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x00ff…f7adbacked Avalanche71c5,029$3,556 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,473.434555.6%25 W · 20 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe5f0…dc1dbacked Kings30c4,790$1,437 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,43741842.8%179 W · 239 L-5.3wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-1.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x689c…6b1ebacked Avalanche63c4,656$2,933 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,722.791145.5%5 W · 6 L-0.6wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-8.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6eb7…a0f1backed Avalanche63c4,656$2,933 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,722.791233.3%4 W · 8 L-2.4wins-0.20per pick54cpaid-43.4%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x1624…bf63backed Kings64c4,479$2,866 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,866.4539344.8%176 W · 217 L+23.3wins+0.06per pick39cpaid+1.8%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x31c1…7047backed Avalanche71c4,152$2,948 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,204.034151.2%21 W · 20 L-2.3wins-0.06per pick57cpaid-12.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x698b…4426backed Avalanche70c4,055$2,838 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,216.354047.5%19 W · 21 L-1.8wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-3.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc1b3…501cbacked Avalanche70c4,000$2,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,2005253.8%28 W · 24 L+1.6wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+6.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2586…c893backed Avalanche70c3,500$2,450 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,05083652.8%441 W · 395 L+28.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x5375…aeeabacked Avalanche70c3,394$2,371 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,022.6458841.8%246 W · 342 L-20.6wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-16.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x255a…3435backed Avalanche38c3,357$1,276 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,081.4229533.6%99 W · 196 L+4.6wins+0.02per pick32cpaid+4.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x2fbc…f944backed Avalanche68c3,342$2,273 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,069.44250%1 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.08per pick58cpaid-26.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Kings38c3,333$1,267 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,266.5275251.7%389 W · 363 L-2.1wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8adc…bafcbacked Avalanche71c3,321$2,358 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$963.223351.5%17 W · 16 L-2.0wins-0.06per pick58cpaid-9.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x26d6…caccbacked Kings39c3,258$1,262 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,262.3311251.8%58 W · 54 L+4.6wins+0.04per pick48cpaid-9.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Kings30c3,243$977 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$977.2785250.2%428 W · 424 L-26.2wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-6.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbf26…6fe2backed Avalanche71c3,173$2,253 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$920.2824952.2%130 W · 119 L+6.5wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7681…ac03backed Kings38c2,999$1,140 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,139.7427334.4%94 W · 179 L+12.7wins+0.05per pick30cpaid+22%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Avalanche70c2,603$1,835 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$768.831,30152.6%684 W · 617 L+23.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x16bd…e288backed Kings34c2,574$875 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$875.132948.3%14 W · 15 L+1.2wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+16.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x6368…6dc8backed Kings38c2,566$963 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$962.514553.3%24 W · 21 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick55cpaid-3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xba67…4727backed Avalanche70c2,500$1,750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$75031848.7%155 W · 163 L-3.6wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3625…1187backed Kings30c2,127$638 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$638.038946.1%41 W · 48 L-2.2wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-5.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2849…3d49backed Kings41c2,007$828 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$828.319963.8%127 W · 72 L+27.6wins+0.14per pick50cpaid+18.5%equal weight64+0.12 edge/pick
0x967e…6a83backed Avalanche68c2,000$1,350 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$649.991533.3%5 W · 10 L-3.0wins-0.20per pick53cpaid-38.4%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xc463…9a2fbacked Avalanche70c2,000$1,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$60026750.2%134 W · 133 L-2.4wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x820a…ca12backed Avalanche61c2,000$1,220 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7802263.6%14 W · 8 L+2.5wins+0.12per pick52cpaid+19.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x683a…274ebacked Avalanche21c2,000$420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,579.963345.5%15 W · 18 L+4.0wins+0.12per pick33cpaid+46.7%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x4b49…0397backed Avalanche70c1,990$1,393 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$596.8720450%102 W · 102 L-4.5wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-5.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3aa3…448dbacked Kings30c1,952$586 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$585.7230%0 W · 3 L-1.2wins-0.39per pick39cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x1526…c635backed Kings30c1,915$575 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$574.51425%1 W · 3 L-0.9wins-0.22per pick47cpaid-50.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa697…59d5backed Kings29c1,900$553 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$552.9776950.3%387 W · 382 L+1.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc661…610abacked Avalanche60c1,666$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$666.41163.6%7 W · 4 L+0.5wins+0.05per pick59cpaid+8.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Kings29c1,646$484 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$484.251,43450.8%728 W · 706 L-10.7wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc371…1e28backed Kings52c1,631$849 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$849.2125635.9%92 W · 164 L-2.4wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-22.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x117d…68c0backed Kings30c1,564$469 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$469.32366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.7wins+0.24per pick43cpaid+39.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x01a5…312ebacked Kings33c1,562$515 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$515.417244.4%32 W · 40 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+6.9%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x2fb5…b009backed Avalanche63c1,561$982 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$578.832755.6%15 W · 12 L+2.3wins+0.09per pick47cpaid+22.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x5d1d…afd2backed Kings54c1,461$786 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$785.9618452.7%97 W · 87 L-0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid-5.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xefce…4e4abacked Avalanche70c1,403$982 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$420.8621849.5%108 W · 110 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf02f…1ed8backed Avalanche56c1,338$752 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$585.6842948.7%209 W · 220 L+3.2wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xaff3…6eccbacked Avalanche63c1,313$821 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$492.0422250%111 W · 111 L-1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-4.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfb51…082dbacked Kings65c1,307$855 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$854.919759.4%117 W · 80 L+10.1wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+5.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Kings42c1,306$542 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$541.932,75447.9%1,318 W · 1,436 L+11.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid-8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x08fe…aedfbacked Kings38c1,300$494 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$493.994748.9%23 W · 24 L-1.7wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-7.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8181…f5fbbacked Avalanche71c1,270$901 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$368.193100%3 W · 0 L+0.9wins+0.31per pick69cpaid+45.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x355b…b291backed Avalanche62c1,261$782 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$479.14666.7%4 W · 2 L+1.7wins+0.28per pick39cpaid+31.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x54a2…5dfebacked Kings38c1,259$481 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$481.475251.9%27 W · 25 L+2.0wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc7e5…2d3abacked Avalanche19c1,252$238 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,013.9943743%188 W · 249 L+16.7wins+0.04per pick39cpaid+9.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7462…3ac3backed Avalanche71c1,246$884 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$361.215240.4%21 W · 31 L-3.7wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-17.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe504…600ebacked Avalanche62c1,230$763 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$466.9327044.4%120 W · 150 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-7.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7edb…7993backed Kings38c1,185$449 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$448.9927037.4%101 W · 169 L-11.6wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-33.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8c8c…c7b4backed Avalanche71c1,139$809 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$330.312857.1%16 W · 12 L+0.7wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+0.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x95b7…d633backed Kings37c1,100$407 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40726154%141 W · 120 L+7.4wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+11.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbad2…5296backed Kings30c1,082$323 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$323.2889249.9%445 W · 447 L+10.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7ba5…aaf1backed Avalanche63c1,062$670 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$392.5710343.7%45 W · 58 L-2.8wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-1.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed Kings33c1,023$341 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$341.4728340.3%114 W · 169 L-24.4wins-0.09per pick49cpaid-26.1%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x6353…777fbacked Avalanche21c1,018$214 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$804.59250%1 W · 1 L+0.1wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+138.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Avalanche70c1,004$703 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$301.22,66451.6%1,375 W · 1,289 L+58.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Avalanche71c1,002$711 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$290.572,89451.3%1,484 W · 1,410 L+58.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8aa6…83f9backed Avalanche68c1,000$680 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3203969.2%27 W · 12 L+6.6wins+0.17per pick52cpaid+41%equal weight62+0.10 edge/pick
0x2ff8…8a76backed Avalanche70c1,000$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3006245.2%28 W · 34 L-1.8wins-0.03per pick48cpaid+1.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NHL and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 6 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.