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Fifa International · resolved market

Will France vs. Spain end in a draw?

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Noof Yes, No
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Fifa Internationalevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$7,480,967
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$6,963,294

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $7,480,967 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 2,767 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Fifa International is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Fifa International
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x6754…e3bcbacked No68c1,868,288$1,266,357 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$601,931.415456.5%87 W · 67 L+5.6wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+9.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2c33…0563backed Yes32c959,298$304,577 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$304,577.2674752.2%390 W · 357 L+2.4wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7d6d…2654backed Yes33c761,726$250,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$250,0002657.7%15 W · 11 L+0.1wins0.00per pick57cpaid-4.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe549…2d54backed Yes30c750,000$225,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$225,00015552.3%81 W · 74 L+11.0wins+0.07per pick45cpaid+15.3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x0c78…77f1backed No70c523,512$366,274 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$157,238.446048.3%29 W · 31 L+1.1wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-2.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xc430…1ebfbacked Yes31c361,896$111,411 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$111,411.288932.6%29 W · 60 L-3.3wins-0.04per pick36cpaid-22.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9ee8…89debacked No70c300,379$209,833 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90,546.025942.4%25 W · 34 L+2.2wins+0.04per pick39cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7ddd…c933backed No70c270,000$189,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$81,0002176.2%16 W · 5 L+3.3wins+0.16per pick60cpaid+28.7%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed No76c200,892$153,507 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47,384.44,59540.3%1,850 W · 2,745 L-91.3wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-23.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x169d…a85ebacked No68c181,321$123,752 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57,569.47580%4 W · 1 L+1.0wins+0.19per pick61cpaid+49.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed Yes27c136,083$36,171 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36,171.088,61429.2%2,518 W · 6,096 L-166.6wins-0.02per pick31cpaid-32.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x10ff…5088backed No74c127,554$94,944 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32,609.9936939.6%146 W · 223 L-12.0wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-24.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2117…5c26backed Yes32c123,137$39,062 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39,061.641,98532.5%645 W · 1,340 L-47.7wins-0.02per pick35cpaid-13.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x0f00…73cebacked Yes31c118,938$36,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36,5005728.1%16 W · 41 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick29cpaid+14.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa61e…0abdbacked No70c105,000$73,162 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31,837.494252.4%22 W · 20 L-0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid-10%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Yes32c82,717$26,352 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26,351.691,14439.2%448 W · 696 L-8.4wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-14.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x32ed…f960backed No67c74,627$50,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24,626.8610836.1%39 W · 69 L+8.7wins+0.08per pick28cpaid+32.6%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x1fd7…401fbacked Yes28c71,664$20,237 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20,236.83862.5%5 W · 3 L+2.5wins+0.31per pick32cpaid+45.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x8b4b…541bbacked Yes30c70,000$21,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21,0003839.5%15 W · 23 L+0.8wins+0.02per pick37cpaid+5.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8c10…8977backed No70c70,000$48,850 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21,1506159%36 W · 25 L+1.1wins+0.02per pick57cpaid+6.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf031…c80cbacked No69c67,447$46,538 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20,908.4933538.2%128 W · 207 L+9.7wins+0.03per pick35cpaid+14.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9689…df62backed Yes5c64,861$3,173 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,172.6823427.8%65 W · 169 L+5.4wins+0.02per pick25cpaid+42.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8f83…d8a3backed No69c59,999$41,368 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18,630.631637.5%6 W · 10 L-2.3wins-0.14per pick52cpaid-40.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x3dfb…abafbacked Yes24c55,555$13,544 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,544.3542345.6%193 W · 230 L+10.8wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+1.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7583…4df2backed Yes30c50,000$15,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15,0002040%8 W · 12 L+0.7wins+0.03per pick37cpaid+5.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfb37…ba6bbacked Yes30c48,543$14,563 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14,563.042240.9%9 W · 13 L+2.4wins+0.11per pick30cpaid+3.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x9703…69c2backed No69c47,909$33,199 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,709.7429952.5%157 W · 142 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2d6a…8addbacked No68c46,289$31,557 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,732.083,21347.2%1,517 W · 1,696 L-7.5wins0.00per pick47cpaid+0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3608…b13dbacked Yes30c44,500$13,350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,3503036.7%11 W · 19 L+2.7wins+0.09per pick28cpaid+46.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x5b63…11a4backed Yes22c43,053$9,451 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,450.6279231.1%246 W · 546 L-4.2wins-0.01per pick32cpaid-34.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x95f5…779fbacked Yes16c43,015$6,721 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,721.1537223.4%87 W · 285 L-25.7wins-0.07per pick30cpaid-58.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x32b4…8b21backed Yes14c41,408$5,759 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,759.3624441.8%102 W · 142 L-5.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-11.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7ea5…de7bbacked No67c38,824$26,131 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,693.341,56043.8%684 W · 876 L-4.4wins0.00per pick44cpaid-3.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0f34…7684backed Yes20c36,828$7,309 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,308.6165835%230 W · 428 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick34cpaid-21.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed No67c35,000$23,288 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,712.51,26247.5%600 W · 662 L-15.8wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8944…da4bbacked Yes15c34,643$5,050 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,050.062544%11 W · 14 L+1.4wins+0.06per pick38cpaid-12.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x000c…bcf3backed Yes30c34,370$10,156 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,156.529916.7%50 W · 249 L-6.3wins-0.02per pick19cpaid-53.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1f90…21fabacked No68c31,000$20,925 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,0754057.5%23 W · 17 L+3.8wins+0.10per pick48cpaid+17.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x4810…289abacked Yes32c29,144$9,472 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,471.954151.2%21 W · 20 L-1.6wins-0.04per pick55cpaid-7.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x45c3…59bfbacked Yes33c29,101$9,603 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,603.351154.5%6 W · 5 L-0.4wins-0.03per pick58cpaid-6.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcf73…0215backed No68c28,299$19,322 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,977.343,07747%1,447 W · 1,630 L-11.5wins0.00per pick47cpaid-2.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x969a…59ddbacked No68c27,900$18,833 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,067.59247.8%44 W · 48 L-2.9wins-0.03per pick51cpaid+1.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xa0f2…1848backed Yes31c27,848$8,684 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,683.785322.6%12 W · 41 L-5.0wins-0.10per pick32cpaid-51.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x3f41…5ffcbacked Yes33c27,777$9,083 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,083.0834249.1%168 W · 174 L+5.2wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+33.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x99e4…e4c4backed No68c27,567$18,622 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,944.597445.9%34 W · 40 L-2.7wins-0.04per pick50cpaid+10.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x705d…0a1ebacked Yes30c26,700$8,010 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,0101154.5%6 W · 5 L+0.5wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x1b47…d814backed No72c25,914$18,694 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,219.9556541.1%232 W · 333 L-9.4wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-11.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xeb73…53b0backed Yes28c25,908$7,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,20015930.8%49 W · 110 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick30cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb87b…3626backed Yes33c25,555$8,433 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,433.1524526.5%65 W · 180 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick28cpaid-13%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9e3e…f882backed Yes24c24,954$6,028 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,028.1275729.3%222 W · 535 L-23.2wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-27.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8b9a…5f69backed Yes2c24,904$380 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$379.631468.2%12 W · 134 L+8.4wins+0.06per pick2cpaid+90.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xf209…97e1backed Yes31c24,709$7,744 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,744.391225%3 W · 9 L-0.3wins-0.03per pick28cpaid-10.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0eb3…97cfbacked Yes14c24,108$3,440 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,440.3934122.3%76 W · 265 L+8.2wins+0.02per pick20cpaid+27.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6c08…5c69backed No70c24,000$16,700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,299.9711552.2%60 W · 55 L+3.0wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+6.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0520…e4e0backed Yes32c22,838$7,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,20025336.8%93 W · 160 L+0.9wins0.00per pick36cpaid-4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7e42…ee4ebacked Yes1c22,063$292 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$292119.1%1 W · 10 L-0.2wins-0.02per pick11cpaid+37.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x39d3…9ef0backed Yes30c20,434$6,215 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,214.6229740.1%119 W · 178 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc463…9a2fbacked No67c20,000$13,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,6007859%46 W · 32 L+3.8wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+9.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xaea7…974bbacked No68c18,600$12,555 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,0451050%5 W · 5 L+0.4wins+0.04per pick46cpaid-14.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1509…ca95backed No69c18,529$12,738 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,790.2212255.7%68 W · 54 L+8.2wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+13.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xf377…4159backed Yes28c17,658$5,002 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,002.365328.3%15 W · 38 L-1.7wins-0.03per pick31cpaid-14.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x208c…6b98backed Yes33c17,557$5,742 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,741.939846.9%46 W · 52 L-4.9wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-9.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x224f…514abacked No68c17,400$11,864 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,535.931,53649.1%754 W · 782 L+32.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xff80…9b4dbacked Yes5c17,020$928 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$927.63060%18 W · 12 L+4.7wins+0.16per pick44cpaid+35.4%equal weight59+0.09 edge/pick
0x3e59…2a66backed Yes18c16,929$3,107 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,107.251,06331.7%337 W · 726 L-33.7wins-0.03per pick35cpaid-17.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x076d…8d4cbacked Yes21c16,916$3,632 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,632.462,27139.5%896 W · 1,375 L+10.1wins0.00per pick39cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf559…f462backed Yes30c16,667$5,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,00010457.7%60 W · 44 L+10.2wins+0.10per pick48cpaid+13.9%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x3474…fa63backed Yes30c16,027$4,808 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,8082927.6%8 W · 21 L+0.7wins+0.03per pick25cpaid+46.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x191f…4a8dbacked No68c15,601$10,588 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,013.299150.5%46 W · 45 L+3.4wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+12.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5564…1b0dbacked Yes19c14,875$2,804 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,803.775335.8%19 W · 34 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick34cpaid-2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb31e…c120backed No68c14,700$9,957 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,742.497269.4%50 W · 22 L+3.2wins+0.04per pick65cpaid+12.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x13e0…a97ebacked Yes31c14,609$4,471 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,471.488133.3%27 W · 54 L+1.9wins+0.02per pick31cpaid-16.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xaa6f…1dfebacked Yes28c14,230$4,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,0008648.8%42 W · 44 L+10.1wins+0.12per pick37cpaid+77.2%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed No71c13,776$9,766 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,010.262,81944.5%1,255 W · 1,564 L-36.2wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-9.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x442f…e7a2backed Yes10c13,400$1,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,30011038.2%42 W · 68 L+6.8wins+0.06per pick32cpaid+18.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x6b36…0d4bbacked Yes26c12,254$3,222 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,222.1473626.5%195 W · 541 L-0.7wins0.00per pick27cpaid-19.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x35f8…daa1backed No70c12,072$8,450 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,621.582556%14 W · 11 L+1.7wins+0.07per pick49cpaid-3.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9e5c…d8e6backed Yes28c11,730$3,284 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,284.428133.1%93 W · 188 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick34cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x108e…b771backed Yes26c11,451$2,980 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,979.875930.5%18 W · 41 L+0.1wins0.00per pick30cpaid-16%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5f55…37ccbacked Yes30c11,158$3,347 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,347.45933.3%3 W · 6 L-0.3wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-40.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x58a2…13a1backed Yes32c10,589$3,362 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,362.15520%1 W · 4 L-1.5wins-0.30per pick50cpaid-70.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x20e5…118dbacked No70c10,415$7,277 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,138.4133549%164 W · 171 L-5.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-7.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xec8f…8df8backed No73c10,355$7,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,755.3515746.5%73 W · 84 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd961…35debacked Yes33c10,000$3,275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,27524028.8%69 W · 171 L+4.6wins+0.02per pick27cpaid-12%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x60ba…3c6cbacked No69c10,000$6,850 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,149.9747144.8%211 W · 260 L-4.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-8.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe4fc…8af7backed No69c10,000$6,850 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,149.9650243.4%218 W · 284 L-9.0wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x57ef…044abacked No70c10,000$7,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,999.9513554.8%74 W · 61 L+9.2wins+0.07per pick48cpaid+8%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x2f5b…e747backed No69c10,000$6,850 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,149.9148441.9%203 W · 281 L-16.8wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-15.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xfaa2…e80abacked No70c9,999$6,999 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,999.713959.7%83 W · 56 L+2.8wins+0.02per pick58cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x91fe…c1c6backed Yes16c9,940$1,569 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,568.917747.5%84 W · 93 L+11.7wins+0.07per pick41cpaid+12.7%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x32ed…3400backed Yes31c9,850$3,054 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,053.5944.4%4 W · 5 L+1.2wins+0.14per pick31cpaid+39.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8bd3…f69abacked Yes10c9,763$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0001225%3 W · 9 L-1.5wins-0.12per pick37cpaid-62.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x75a4…3d29backed Yes31c9,694$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,0007545.3%34 W · 41 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-8.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x84cf…2f63backed Yes28c9,529$2,645 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,644.862,43929%707 W · 1,732 L-65.3wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-21%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2a69…d2f7backed Yes5c9,359$486 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$485.963,99224.9%994 W · 2,998 L-47.0wins-0.01per pick26cpaid-19.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbfe9…5f53backed No68c9,300$6,278 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,022.52853.6%15 W · 13 L+1.9wins+0.07per pick47cpaid0%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8773…a783backed Yes11c9,220$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0007524%18 W · 57 L-1.5wins-0.02per pick26cpaid-14.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4059…23dabacked Yes8c9,000$743 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$742.5494.1%2 W · 47 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick5cpaid-60.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x323a…876fbacked Yes30c9,000$2,700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,70012035%42 W · 78 L+2.6wins+0.02per pick33cpaid+1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdd10…416fbacked Yes30c8,839$2,655 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,654.548237.8%31 W · 51 L-1.5wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-25.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Fifa International and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.