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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: PARIVISION vs Spirit - Map 1 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
PARIVISIONof PARIVISION, Spirit
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$485,617

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $485,617 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 297 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x67bb…b6efbacked Spirit66c37,186$24,686 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24,686.4776058%441 W · 319 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick58cpaid-1.4%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x9750…263dbacked PARIVISION35c26,990$9,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17,489.873036.7%11 W · 19 L-1.5wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-13.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9ae8…c2a8backed PARIVISION33c19,813$6,560 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,252.9724846.8%116 W · 132 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-0.8%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Spirit21c13,649$2,881 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,881.232,22141.3%917 W · 1,304 L-22.6wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-19.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4818…fde0backed PARIVISION72c8,120$5,812 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,308.5826549.1%130 W · 135 L-14.4wins-0.05per pick54cpaid-12.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked PARIVISION76c8,075$6,117 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,957.852,32655.7%1,296 W · 1,030 L+44.8wins+0.02per pick54cpaid-9.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfb7b…ed88backed PARIVISION78c7,938$6,220 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,717.542860.7%17 W · 11 L+3.4wins+0.12per pick48cpaid+37.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Spirit34c7,278$2,459 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,458.593,25750.3%1,638 W · 1,619 L+98.0wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-6.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf988…d63bbacked Spirit50c6,965$3,469 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,469.1135850.8%182 W · 176 L+11.1wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-1.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x61fe…0956backed PARIVISION73c6,692$4,913 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,779.3810663.2%67 W · 39 L+10.5wins+0.10per pick53cpaid+7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed Spirit63c6,537$4,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,100.0237646.3%174 W · 202 L-17.2wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-9.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x1196…fe97backed PARIVISION33c6,302$2,080 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,222.266634.8%23 W · 43 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick34cpaid-14%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x18bb…e5cdbacked PARIVISION34c5,440$1,842 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,597.7630726.4%81 W · 226 L+8.8wins+0.03per pick24cpaid+6.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9bff…7074backed Spirit44c4,727$2,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,100714.3%1 W · 6 L-1.4wins-0.20per pick35cpaid-53.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2302…d6d2backed Spirit10c4,597$477 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$477.2824544.5%109 W · 136 L-8.2wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-16.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x910d…cfc0backed PARIVISION60c4,456$2,677 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,778.544045%18 W · 22 L+1.2wins+0.03per pick42cpaid-17.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc5ac…2a18backed PARIVISION32c4,198$1,343 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,854.7325147.8%120 W · 131 L+9.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+10%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Spirit30c4,157$1,240 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,239.973,09648.5%1,501 W · 1,595 L+135.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x70c1…dba0backed Spirit65c4,000$2,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,60016152.8%85 W · 76 L+10.5wins+0.07per pick46cpaid+14.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xeffd…5a86backed Spirit66c4,000$2,640 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,6407537.3%28 W · 47 L-7.6wins-0.10per pick47cpaid-20.7%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed PARIVISION79c3,831$3,031 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$799.61,03361.6%636 W · 397 L+87.2wins+0.08per pick53cpaid+11.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x410d…d831backed PARIVISION33c3,205$1,058 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,147.343930.8%12 W · 27 L+0.8wins+0.02per pick29cpaid-8.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8c0b…7aa5backed PARIVISION61c3,090$1,890 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,200.6281843.2%353 W · 465 L+23.0wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+2.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x60d0…e05fbacked Spirit58c3,000$1,740 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,739.965444.4%24 W · 30 L-0.1wins0.00per pick45cpaid-9.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6978…9897backed Spirit67c2,983$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,00012449.2%61 W · 63 L-7.1wins-0.06per pick55cpaid-9.2%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf0b9…0eddbacked PARIVISION32c2,910$931 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,978.84645.7%21 W · 25 L-0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid+15.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Spirit23c2,454$553 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$552.777,92550.4%3,997 W · 3,928 L+179.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x4108…9e22backed PARIVISION33c2,416$804 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,612.4911940.3%48 W · 71 L+1.9wins+0.02per pick39cpaid+4.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x85d5…bbf0backed PARIVISION39c2,165$838 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,326.5616945%76 W · 93 L+10.0wins+0.06per pick39cpaid+0.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xdbb3…76a9backed PARIVISION67c2,119$1,410 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$709.5539248.7%191 W · 201 L+5.8wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-12.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x29b5…cc6cbacked Spirit67c1,932$1,297 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,297.475,05055.1%2,781 W · 2,269 L+117.2wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe949…33bebacked Spirit21c1,900$408 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4082650%13 W · 13 L+1.8wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+13.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed PARIVISION71c1,784$1,271 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$512.4688746.7%414 W · 473 L+8.9wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-15.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6c2d…dd1ebacked PARIVISION68c1,775$1,207 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$568.4839970.7%282 W · 117 L+38.7wins+0.10per pick61cpaid+14.6%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x6cbf…ac45backed PARIVISION32c1,765$565 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,200.2450%2 W · 2 L+0.8wins+0.19per pick31cpaid+245.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1b9a…a06bbacked Spirit11c1,658$180 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$179.9369624%167 W · 529 L+2.2wins0.00per pick24cpaid-7.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2a71…e454backed PARIVISION35c1,646$576 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,069.7124944.6%111 W · 138 L+6.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+7.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0c99…0c88backed PARIVISION71c1,603$1,135 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$467.952,43444.6%1,085 W · 1,349 L-64.0wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-13.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Spirit28c1,574$434 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$433.796,48042.9%2,782 W · 3,698 L-79.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfe8a…23cebacked Spirit44c1,500$652 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$652.52,21447.5%1,052 W · 1,162 L-5.6wins0.00per pick48cpaid-14.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xff4e…4bc0backed Spirit69c1,449$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0002941.4%12 W · 17 L-4.8wins-0.17per pick58cpaid-25.9%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xd92d…e560backed Spirit6c1,400$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8458651%299 W · 287 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x623c…122fbacked Spirit30c1,357$411 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$411616.7%1 W · 5 L-1.4wins-0.23per pick39cpaid-65.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xebe7…ddf5backed PARIVISION54c1,341$719 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$621.934156.6%193 W · 148 L+2.8wins+0.01per pick56cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked PARIVISION49c1,300$637 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66325555.3%141 W · 114 L+1.2wins0.00per pick55cpaid+2.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7a78…add7backed Spirit53c1,250$657 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$657.51,96946.7%919 W · 1,050 L+12.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-14.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf0db…d4f0backed Spirit68c1,215$831 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$831.331118.2%2 W · 9 L-4.1wins-0.37per pick56cpaid-61.2%equal weight37-0.11 edge/pick
0xfb51…082dbacked Spirit10c1,212$123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$123.0412352.8%65 W · 58 L+3.7wins+0.03per pick50cpaid-1.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2133…7903backed Spirit30c1,135$342 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$342.3538835.8%139 W · 249 L-6.8wins-0.02per pick38cpaid-10.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2f1f…aa39backed PARIVISION74c1,060$787 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$272.9922761.7%140 W · 87 L+4.7wins+0.02per pick60cpaid+5.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7a14…d748backed PARIVISION51c1,029$519 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$509.1657358.8%337 W · 236 L+16.1wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+1.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3f05…a9b9backed PARIVISION34c1,028$350 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$678.4627459.5%163 W · 111 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick58cpaid+3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe4da…1772backed PARIVISION32c1,000$320 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$68053746.2%248 W · 289 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x323b…6ed9backed Spirit18c1,000$178 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1782867.9%19 W · 9 L+1.6wins+0.06per pick62cpaid+3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0694…4a4ebacked PARIVISION77c1,000$770 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$230.4514355.9%80 W · 63 L+9.5wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+9.1%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed Spirit65c1,000$650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65046749.7%232 W · 235 L-12.4wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-6.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x338c…1b33backed Spirit52c945.95$490 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$489.8716947.9%81 W · 88 L-6.7wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-11.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x5818…44a3backed PARIVISION51c921.82$470 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$451.696248.4%30 W · 32 L+0.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid-0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec0e…672cbacked Spirit34c919$308 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$308.4247738.4%183 W · 294 L-26.7wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-31.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x16db…ac64backed Spirit51c903.24$461 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$460.656716.4%11 W · 56 L-8.1wins-0.12per pick28cpaid-54.8%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x6df5…6430backed Spirit35c900$315 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3151,27821.9%280 W · 998 L-24.3wins-0.02per pick24cpaid-16.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x60bd…2469backed Spirit1c800$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$112412.5%3 W · 21 L+1.0wins+0.04per pick8cpaid+108.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0394…3ef9backed Spirit12c799.98$95 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$957418.9%14 W · 60 L+3.7wins+0.05per pick14cpaid+41.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe5f7…7714backed PARIVISION80c799.74$638 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$161.8319048.9%93 W · 97 L-6.6wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-9.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked PARIVISION66c776$512 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$264.041,25646.7%587 W · 669 L+17.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-16%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5808…d235backed Spirit44c774.49$340 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3403141.9%13 W · 18 L-1.1wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-21.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xef66…f839backed Spirit36c743.29$270 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27013036.9%48 W · 82 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-15.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2529…548abacked PARIVISION46c738.87$341 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$398.123,22551.2%1,651 W · 1,574 L+88.0wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-6.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf131…36f7backed PARIVISION34c736.77$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$486.771369.2%9 W · 4 L+3.4wins+0.26per pick43cpaid+66.3%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Spirit43c717.71$308 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$308.114,03848.1%1,943 W · 2,095 L-23.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfeb9…95c9backed Spirit28c714.29$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20054732.2%176 W · 371 L-28.0wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-18%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe922…39b3backed Spirit28c666$186 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$186.4860248.7%293 W · 309 L+0.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf743…1811backed Spirit21c663$139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$139.2329831.5%94 W · 204 L-16.1wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-29.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x3c29…21aabacked Spirit67c653.58$438 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$437.9922.2%2 W · 7 L-3.1wins-0.35per pick57cpaid-62.6%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xb7b3…9573backed Spirit25c600$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15046345.6%211 W · 252 L-6.1wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-8.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xda32…04a1backed PARIVISION59c600$354 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24631444.9%141 W · 173 L+9.0wins+0.03per pick42cpaid-0.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3fc7…62b9backed PARIVISION32c600$192 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40832042.5%136 W · 184 L+11.0wins+0.03per pick39cpaid+7.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x31e6…a23ebacked Spirit68c600$408 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4082857.1%16 W · 12 L+2.3wins+0.08per pick49cpaid+25.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x6c74…c217backed PARIVISION32c599.99$192 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$407.993240.6%13 W · 19 L-2.3wins-0.07per pick48cpaid-20.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x4031…92c8backed PARIVISION34c588.24$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$388.2450846.3%235 W · 273 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8725…eb10backed PARIVISION33c558.74$182 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$376.9885446.4%396 W · 458 L+0.3wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x31a4…7afcbacked Spirit51c539.33$275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$275.0610%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x09ec…427dbacked Spirit61c535.49$324 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$323.9817850%89 W · 89 L-0.9wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x23b2…ce61backed Spirit59c532.74$312 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$312.368065%52 W · 28 L+5.1wins+0.06per pick59cpaid+13.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x6395…d69dbacked PARIVISION49c513.41$252 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$261.8411241.1%46 W · 66 L-5.0wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-12.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x897a…1495backed Spirit68c507.47$346 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$346.412657.7%15 W · 11 L+0.8wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+9.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x69ac…03e9backed Spirit13c503.76$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.254122%9 W · 32 L-5.3wins-0.13per pick35cpaid-50.8%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x8b55…d74bbacked Spirit66c500$330 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33049849.6%247 W · 251 L+4.3wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7635…63f6backed Spirit51c500$254 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25417548%84 W · 91 L+2.6wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5316…1d07backed PARIVISION30c500$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35024134.4%83 W · 158 L-13.1wins-0.05per pick40cpaid-9.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xa474…32cbbacked Spirit25c473$118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$117.7925846.1%119 W · 139 L+9.6wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+3.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xa0af…3b75backed Spirit65c461.37$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30018342.1%77 W · 106 L-7.1wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-11.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe283…7190backed Spirit38c453.92$174 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17496545.7%441 W · 524 L+10.9wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x755a…6da6backed Spirit12c452.22$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54.591,04645%471 W · 575 L+6.9wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+0.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Spirit49c449$222 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$221.7956732.5%184 W · 383 L-30.0wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-36.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2c78…aad1backed Spirit62c442.6$273 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$272.738456.3%216 W · 168 L-6.3wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-2.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc876…1a19backed Spirit66c435$287 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$287.1633.3%2 W · 4 L-1.3wins-0.22per pick55cpaid-15.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf898…e720backed Spirit27c425$114 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$113.931,37845.2%623 W · 755 L+17.9wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-7.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x588d…3f41backed Spirit24c417$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.0883543.6%364 W · 471 L-9.0wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-7.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Spirit41c409.15$169 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$168.762,06641.5%858 W · 1,208 L-49.5wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-16.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 6 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.