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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Cavaliers (-17.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Jazzof Cavaliers, Jazz
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$92,275
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$92,730

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $92,275 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 164 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf988…d63bbacked Cavaliers48c12,063$5,790 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,790.0428554%154 W · 131 L+5.5wins+0.02per pick52cpaid-0.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Cavaliers48c8,451$4,056 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,056.291,91054.3%1,038 W · 872 L+25.2wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xca40…83f6backed Cavaliers46c6,000$2,760 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,759.8512945.7%59 W · 70 L-2.2wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-10.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x0936…6c02backed Jazz53c5,957$3,155 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,802.95341.5%22 W · 31 L-4.1wins-0.08per pick49cpaid-16.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x9862…9f3dbacked Jazz52c5,346$2,780 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,565.912100%2 W · 0 L+1.0wins+0.49per pick51cpaid+94.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x32ed…f960backed Jazz60c4,596$2,766 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,829.922,94951.5%1,519 W · 1,430 L+119.4wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+3.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xfeaa…2ddfbacked Jazz52c3,599$1,872 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,727.58933.3%3 W · 6 L-1.6wins-0.18per pick51cpaid-35.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Cavaliers41c3,026$1,231 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,230.822,63036.7%966 W · 1,664 L-119.1wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-25.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Cavaliers47c2,762$1,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,300.353,66841.9%1,538 W · 2,130 L-70.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-15.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x273e…d054backed Jazz52c2,538$1,320 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,218.47333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.17per pick50cpaid-35.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x91f7…4767backed Jazz52c2,356$1,225 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,130.9710651.9%55 W · 51 L+3.1wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x61e8…b283backed Jazz52c2,305$1,199 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,106.3814940.9%61 W · 88 L-11.6wins-0.08per pick49cpaid-16.1%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x37c1…c53abacked Jazz53c2,210$1,163 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,047.841,91549.3%944 W · 971 L+19.7wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa8d9…48a6backed Cavaliers47c1,992$936 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$936.243240.6%13 W · 19 L-2.1wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-18.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x412f…ff77backed Jazz52c1,816$944 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$871.491553.3%8 W · 7 L+1.0wins+0.07per pick46cpaid+20.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x78bb…591fbacked Jazz52c1,556$809 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$746.9330446.7%142 W · 162 L-8.2wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-5.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x161a…4103backed Jazz49c1,525$742 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$782.722,46850.5%1,247 W · 1,221 L+38.4wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+0.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Cavaliers34c1,468$496 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$495.858,98847.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L+96.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3704…0e84backed Jazz53c1,338$709 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$628.7225951.4%133 W · 126 L+3.9wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Jazz52c1,278$662 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$616.894,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa1bf…f357backed Jazz53c1,180$625 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$554.5316953.3%90 W · 79 L+5.8wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+7.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbce5…02f1backed Jazz49c1,020$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$520.218651.6%96 W · 90 L+6.7wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+5.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1ab2…8fdabacked Jazz52c1,015$528 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$487.3619745.2%89 W · 108 L-7.8wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-7.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1bd5…b74abacked Jazz52c912.76$475 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$438.13683.3%5 W · 1 L+2.0wins+0.33per pick50cpaid+65.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x29ce…1ba6backed Jazz53c908.39$481 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$426.941070%7 W · 3 L+2.0wins+0.20per pick50cpaid+41.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x0c99…0c88backed Cavaliers51c891.43$455 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$454.632,40043.6%1,046 W · 1,354 L-82.9wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-9.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe53c…ee05backed Jazz53c882.83$468 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$414.934032.5%13 W · 27 L-6.9wins-0.17per pick50cpaid-34.7%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0x64db…325bbacked Cavaliers48c820.85$394 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$394.011,25948.7%613 W · 646 L+1.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe216…7448backed Jazz63c788.21$493 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$295.2359140.8%241 W · 350 L-7.7wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5628…abbcbacked Jazz52c788.02$410 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$378.2587049.3%429 W · 441 L+1.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x430a…a940backed Jazz58c741.38$428 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$313.721942.1%8 W · 11 L-0.8wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-23.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa535…9e5ebacked Cavaliers48c673$323 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$323.0414049.3%69 W · 71 L-0.3wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8929…733ebacked Cavaliers43c576$248 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$247.6816139.8%64 W · 97 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-10.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xaf1e…63bbbacked Jazz54c547.28$296 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$251.754940.8%20 W · 29 L-4.3wins-0.09per pick50cpaid-22.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x2f2b…0f9abacked Cavaliers48c538.18$258 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$258.3371449.3%352 W · 362 L+2.0wins0.00per pick49cpaid+0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Jazz52c530.79$279 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$252.174,78150.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L+20.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9ff5…f136backed Cavaliers48c513.03$246 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$246.2626048.1%125 W · 135 L-15.1wins-0.06per pick54cpaid-14.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x5fea…78b1backed Cavaliers18c505.29$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$89.7126337.3%98 W · 165 L-1.0wins0.00per pick38cpaid-20.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xafaf…1635backed Cavaliers38c473.1$181 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$180.821,03647.6%493 W · 543 L+6.7wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2be5…603dbacked Cavaliers24c471.9$113 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$113.461346.2%6 W · 7 L-0.7wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-14.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x100c…1c2cbacked Cavaliers47c464.29$218 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$217.852634.6%9 W · 17 L-0.8wins-0.03per pick38cpaid+7.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2c1b…7768backed Jazz52c430.57$224 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$206.6727645.3%125 W · 151 L-8.0wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1015…c873backed Cavaliers47c424$199 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.2862744.5%279 W · 348 L-12.1wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-9.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x426f…e76bbacked Cavaliers47c424$199 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.2817644.9%79 W · 97 L+0.1wins0.00per pick45cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4efc…6391backed Cavaliers47c399.99$188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$187.995853.4%31 W · 27 L+2.8wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+7.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x8c50…2de6backed Cavaliers48c399.92$193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19316845.2%76 W · 92 L-7.0wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-10.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x3b62…728abacked Jazz53c397.95$211 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$187.0411556.5%65 W · 50 L+5.6wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2373…a1f3backed Cavaliers48c387.73$186 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$186.0656447.9%270 W · 294 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-5.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x81b0…6592backed Cavaliers47c331.8$156 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$155.953040%12 W · 18 L-1.5wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-16.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xef86…5afcbacked Cavaliers48c303.5$146 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$145.6813352.6%70 W · 63 L+2.8wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb996…038cbacked Cavaliers48c302.4$145 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$145.1513148.9%64 W · 67 L-3.2wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-5.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xec38…ca10backed Cavaliers48c300.43$144 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$144.2111050.9%56 W · 54 L+2.8wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9a8f…5259backed Cavaliers48c299.61$144 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$143.8110943.1%47 W · 62 L-6.3wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-15.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf421…2e3abacked Cavaliers48c294.31$141 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$141.217248.6%35 W · 37 L-0.1wins0.00per pick49cpaid-9.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xde04…fa37backed Cavaliers5c264.27$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.042,16940.8%885 W · 1,284 L-8.7wins0.00per pick41cpaid-14.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x32cc…68b3backed Jazz49c259.95$126 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$133.71,08450%542 W · 542 L+2.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf1f0…c9e4backed Cavaliers48c259.06$124 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$124.3523850.4%120 W · 118 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcb43…3c74backed Jazz52c256.27$133 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$123.0147748.8%233 W · 244 L+1.8wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3918…b552backed Cavaliers48c246.26$118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$118.214046.4%65 W · 75 L-4.1wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-10.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x6b7c…5f83backed Cavaliers41c245.24$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.553,34243.4%1,450 W · 1,892 L+81.2wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-0.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x18c6…a4dbbacked Cavaliers48c240.35$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.3710750.5%54 W · 53 L+0.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3865…fcbebacked Cavaliers49c234.97$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.1416450%82 W · 82 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-5.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x068c…582ebacked Cavaliers48c227.79$109 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$109.3414445.8%66 W · 78 L-5.4wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-8.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x01c7…e995backed Cavaliers47c217.57$102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.263,90247.8%1,864 W · 2,038 L-17.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xb6ae…4df8backed Jazz53c216.39$114 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$101.921,04447.5%496 W · 548 L-12.8wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa6df…588cbacked Cavaliers48c212.77$102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.1322351.6%115 W · 108 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+7.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe60c…d2e2backed Cavaliers49c212.76$104 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$104.2514145.4%64 W · 77 L-5.8wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-10.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x1030…dd7abacked Cavaliers47c211.25$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.2913349.6%66 W · 67 L+0.6wins0.00per pick49cpaid-6.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd51e…ac0cbacked Cavaliers47c202.95$95 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$95.3951647.5%245 W · 271 L-7.7wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-10%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xa697…59d5backed Cavaliers47c202.06$95 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$95.241,90148.7%925 W · 976 L+6.5wins0.00per pick48cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x40d2…312fbacked Cavaliers47c200$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9428852.1%150 W · 138 L+1.3wins0.00per pick52cpaid+2.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2db1…45e5backed Jazz53c185.86$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.3524849.6%123 W · 125 L+0.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x938e…9b66backed Jazz53c185.86$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.3526755.1%147 W · 120 L+4.0wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x5127…de1ebacked Jazz54c182.43$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$83.9217944.1%79 W · 100 L+1.6wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-11.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6c1d…1f8fbacked Jazz51c178.1$91 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.1549249.8%245 W · 247 L-0.5wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x04eb…f50dbacked Cavaliers48c177.73$86 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$85.5128056.4%158 W · 122 L-1.2wins0.00per pick57cpaid-4.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9348…8cfbbacked Cavaliers18c163.81$29 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.4614243%61 W · 81 L-7.8wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-16.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x5d24…9c89backed Cavaliers49c161.54$79 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$79.1618744.4%83 W · 104 L-10.3wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-13.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x4b6c…9a83backed Cavaliers49c156.94$77 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$76.94641.3%19 W · 27 L-3.8wins-0.08per pick50cpaid-17.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x540f…92bebacked Cavaliers48c154$74 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.926445.3%29 W · 35 L-3.9wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-14%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe05f…1fe3backed Cavaliers48c152.68$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.2920040%80 W · 120 L-15.3wins-0.08per pick48cpaid-18.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xc3f6…bab8backed Cavaliers48c152.68$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.297051.4%36 W · 34 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+4.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xea78…a74ebacked Cavaliers47c150.71$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70.8456547.8%270 W · 295 L+9.5wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6d49…e00abacked Cavaliers47c141.54$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65.931,53242.5%651 W · 881 L-17.3wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-12.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa07d…a037backed Cavaliers35c139.94$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.181,28323.4%300 W · 983 L-178.2wins-0.14per pick37cpaid-40.2%equal weight35-0.14 edge/pick
0x691a…d113backed Cavaliers47c129.04$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.6554443%234 W · 310 L-18.0wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-11.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x3b14…5301backed Cavaliers27c124.89$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.25520%11 W · 44 L-8.8wins-0.16per pick36cpaid-61.7%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0xe414…c341backed Cavaliers46c123.84$57 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.9781349.4%402 W · 411 L+5.5wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x08f1…705cbacked Cavaliers48c122.14$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.6316245.1%73 W · 89 L-6.7wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-8.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x3b5f…7b99backed Cavaliers46c112.75$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51.8738242.9%164 W · 218 L-11.5wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-7.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xaf16…65a6backed Cavaliers53c111.9$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$59.125753.7%138 W · 119 L-0.2wins0.00per pick54cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xedf7…8f79backed Cavaliers47c106.38$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$501,39348.3%673 W · 720 L+19.4wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x3d12…cc43backed Cavaliers48c102.61$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.256150.8%31 W · 30 L+1.8wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+6.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Cavaliers50c99.59$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.863,59150.1%1,798 W · 1,793 L+21.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x725f…06c2backed Cavaliers50c98.5$49 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49.251,88837.3%704 W · 1,184 L+9.9wins+0.01per pick37cpaid-1.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x299f…2140backed Jazz53c97.98$52 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$46.051,14148%548 W · 593 L+9.0wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2185…b40cbacked Cavaliers48c93.58$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44.9215650.6%79 W · 77 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5016…ada1backed Cavaliers48c93.58$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44.9229352.9%155 W · 138 L+0.3wins0.00per pick53cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5825…4ffbbacked Cavaliers39c87$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33.9320349.3%100 W · 103 L-0.2wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Cavaliers30c84.28$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.633,34153.4%1,785 W · 1,556 L+108.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+1.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 13 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.