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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Pistons (-3.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Clippersof Pistons, Clippers
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,734,881
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,867,049

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,734,881 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 155 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xc2e7…be51backed Pistons53c782,704$414,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$414,00010049%49 W · 51 L-1.8wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-4.2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Clippers47c600,000$280,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$319,999.9826253.8%141 W · 121 L+10.1wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+6.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4924…3782backed Pistons54c367,218$196,712 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$196,711.9687451.5%450 W · 424 L+15.8wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Clippers47c302,881$141,433 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$161,448.111,04549%512 W · 533 L+21.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x18d1…dbcbbacked Clippers50c140,706$70,675 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$70,031.369641.7%40 W · 56 L-4.0wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-3.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xb2e4…bc51backed Pistons54c84,861$45,818 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$45,81821944.7%98 W · 121 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick45cpaid+0.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe686…13cbbacked Clippers49c63,000$30,870 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32,1302937.9%11 W · 18 L-1.7wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-25.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Clippers48c37,971$18,089 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,881.679,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9267…0f9abacked Clippers47c30,000$14,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,90059653.4%318 W · 278 L+4.3wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc660…bd28backed Clippers47c21,104$9,997 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,107.1459347%279 W · 314 L-7.3wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-4.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa6ee…697bbacked Clippers47c19,433$9,139 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,293.8820352.2%106 W · 97 L+6.3wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Clippers47c19,035$8,946 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,088.465,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4337…8882backed Clippers47c18,888$8,877 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,010.6315952.2%83 W · 76 L+9.2wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+12.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x4818…fde0backed Pistons53c18,794$9,961 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,960.6451753.8%278 W · 239 L+11.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdec1…28bdbacked Pistons52c18,307$9,490 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,490.273636.1%13 W · 23 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick38cpaid+5.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9731…9b35backed Pistons53c14,038$7,426 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,425.812,51249.1%1,234 W · 1,278 L+6.9wins0.00per pick49cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1496…a429backed Pistons51c10,400$5,304 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,303.9910949.5%54 W · 55 L-4.1wins-0.04per pick53cpaid-5.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbf51…4a30backed Pistons51c8,838$4,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,50076746.4%356 W · 411 L-16.7wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x16b2…a881backed Clippers47c8,282$3,893 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,389.352,29851.7%1,188 W · 1,110 L+65.4wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x8e5a…8f58backed Pistons50c7,365$3,650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,650.376241.9%26 W · 36 L-4.3wins-0.07per pick49cpaid-15.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Clippers49c5,953$2,934 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,019.321,90854.5%1,040 W · 868 L+53.7wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x55a1…db28backed Pistons54c5,792$3,123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,122.575541.8%23 W · 32 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick43cpaid+1.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked Pistons17c4,640$801 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$801.41,09640.9%448 W · 648 L+34.3wins+0.03per pick38cpaid-17%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Clippers56c4,257$2,395 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,861.833,99548.9%1,952 W · 2,043 L+101.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Clippers49c4,002$1,948 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,053.634,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf5d0…d9e8backed Pistons51c4,000$2,040 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,04011242%47 W · 65 L-10.1wins-0.09per pick51cpaid-15.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x1464…5e75backed Clippers50c3,700$1,846 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,853.9915653.8%84 W · 72 L+5.9wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+8.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0175…24f8backed Clippers51c3,182$1,623 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,559.35875%6 W · 2 L+1.8wins+0.23per pick52cpaid+42.9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x5c4f…85fdbacked Clippers51c3,129$1,596 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,533.41333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.17per pick51cpaid-34.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1b9e…0262backed Clippers51c3,075$1,568 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,506.911866.7%12 W · 6 L+2.9wins+0.16per pick51cpaid+31.6%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x84db…aeebbacked Clippers51c3,035$1,563 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,472.531,37450.1%689 W · 685 L+34.9wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+7.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x7234…1d85backed Clippers48c3,000$1,440 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,56015844.9%71 W · 87 L-8.5wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-11.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Pistons49c3,000$1,470 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,4701,82052.1%948 W · 872 L+48.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xba26…23c9backed Clippers48c2,894$1,380 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,514.392,79650.3%1,405 W · 1,391 L+27.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7b2c…af48backed Clippers49c2,729$1,328 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,400.931,47551.3%756 W · 719 L+35.2wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+5.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc17f…50aabacked Clippers47c2,650$1,246 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,404.5724048.3%116 W · 124 L-13.4wins-0.06per pick54cpaid-9.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Pistons49c2,546$1,235 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,235.41,91054.3%1,038 W · 872 L+25.2wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4df3…788fbacked Clippers49c2,479$1,222 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,257.426,21350.6%3,142 W · 3,071 L+53.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe20a…e469backed Clippers47c2,408$1,135 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,273.332,36148.1%1,136 W · 1,225 L-41.8wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-3.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3800…1715backed Clippers51c2,353$1,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,152.94450%2 W · 2 L0.0wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x41b7…f6babacked Pistons53c2,317$1,239 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,238.6880146.4%372 W · 429 L-1.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2cea…3ba8backed Clippers51c2,100$1,071 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0292142.9%9 W · 12 L-1.4wins-0.07per pick50cpaid-14.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xafd1…da41backed Pistons49c2,100$1,029 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0292040%8 W · 12 L-2.4wins-0.12per pick52cpaid-23.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x845b…9041backed Pistons49c2,100$1,029 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0291844.4%8 W · 10 L-1.0wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-10.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7258…b1dbbacked Clippers51c2,100$1,071 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0292152.4%11 W · 10 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe6ee…b3aabacked Pistons50c2,062$1,032 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,032.4736248.9%177 W · 185 L-6.6wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbe5f…d795backed Clippers47c2,000$940 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,06027051.5%139 W · 131 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-1.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd903…bf9dbacked Clippers47c2,000$940 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,06044654.3%242 W · 204 L+21.5wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+5.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x41b4…de82backed Clippers49c2,000$980 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,02058740%235 W · 352 L+24.3wins+0.04per pick36cpaid+3.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd04d…bfc2backed Clippers51c1,705$870 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$834.642,43549.8%1,212 W · 1,223 L+30.3wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x52b4…34a8backed Clippers48c1,545$742 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$803.448347.2%228 W · 255 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-4.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc94a…9401backed Clippers50c1,508$754 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$754.0840350.1%202 W · 201 L-3.6wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb9fc…da76backed Pistons51c1,274$650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$649.7485147.5%404 W · 447 L-7.6wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x68bf…3e67backed Clippers49c1,250$613 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$637.510244.1%45 W · 57 L-6.9wins-0.07per pick51cpaid-14.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Clippers49c1,030$506 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$524.352,09147.8%1,000 W · 1,091 L-56.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf28e…cab2backed Clippers50c1,000$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50056646.5%263 W · 303 L+16.2wins+0.03per pick44cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9592…a85bbacked Pistons50c1,000$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50028245.4%128 W · 154 L+7.8wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+2.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5487…a014backed Clippers47c905.99$426 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$480.181,66752.7%878 W · 789 L+45.5wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+3.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5a3c…93d7backed Pistons52c800$416 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41640346.2%186 W · 217 L+9.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+8.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x290d…503fbacked Clippers49c732.24$359 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$373.44742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.2wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-13.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf2c7…2e93backed Clippers53c679.25$360 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$319.2521152.6%111 W · 100 L+2.4wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xeddf…a953backed Clippers49c612.24$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$312.2436143.5%157 W · 204 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd092…342abacked Clippers49c611.53$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$311.8846258.2%269 W · 193 L-0.6wins0.00per pick58cpaid-0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x09bf…e2c5backed Clippers52c576.92$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$276.921442.9%6 W · 8 L-1.2wins-0.09per pick51cpaid-15%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7cb2…f12fbacked Pistons50c500$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25023058.7%135 W · 95 L+14.1wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+15.8%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Pistons3c472.31$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.318,98847.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L+96.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcc30…c8a5backed Pistons51c470.59$240 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24025847.3%122 W · 136 L+5.1wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-2.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x891d…dd26backed Clippers47c430$202 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$227.98351.8%43 W · 40 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+6.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x781c…db68backed Pistons4c400$17 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$171,38439.4%545 W · 839 L+4.8wins0.00per pick39cpaid-21.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8021…0da8backed Pistons52c378.85$197 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1971030%3 W · 7 L-1.8wins-0.18per pick48cpaid-44.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xc3b7…1f9cbacked Pistons5c360$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick35cpaid-33.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Clippers48c321.64$155 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$166.172,63036.7%966 W · 1,664 L-119.1wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-25.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe21a…88edbacked Pistons54c308.04$166 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$166.342556%14 W · 11 L+0.8wins+0.03per pick53cpaid-0.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc8ab…4f9cbacked Clippers49c306.12$150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$156.1215543.2%67 W · 88 L-6.2wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-9.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe6f0…5701backed Pistons15c302.17$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46.1731144.4%138 W · 173 L+6.2wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-7.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd53e…e70cbacked Clippers49c301.53$148 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$153.787045.7%32 W · 38 L-2.9wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-11.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xcc63…f1c7backed Clippers49c300$148 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.5250653.2%269 W · 237 L+8.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+5.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe0e9…5112backed Clippers52c300$156 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14421749.3%107 W · 110 L-4.6wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3155…268ebacked Pistons45c296.3$133 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$132.711030%3 W · 7 L-2.3wins-0.23per pick53cpaid-52.5%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x6e57…21cbbacked Pistons51c294.12$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1505655.4%31 W · 25 L+1.3wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+7.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x26a5…2731backed Clippers53c261.55$140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$121.651540%6 W · 9 L-1.9wins-0.13per pick53cpaid-25%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xd8c1…eb2abacked Clippers69c240$166 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$74.4862.5%5 W · 3 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick60cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2d84…aa68backed Clippers47c218.41$103 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$115.7611060%66 W · 44 L+9.5wins+0.09per pick51cpaid+15.8%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xd4cf…2d96backed Clippers54c213.54$115 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98.535446.3%25 W · 29 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick47cpaid+6.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8cbb…acb2backed Pistons48c209.56$101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$101.1289050.4%449 W · 441 L+4.4wins0.00per pick50cpaid+1.3%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xf13b…9ef9backed Clippers49c206.69$101 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$105.4421753%115 W · 102 L+4.9wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+2.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9031…5265backed Clippers49c204.08$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104.089451.1%48 W · 46 L+0.3wins0.00per pick51cpaid-4.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2cb4…878fbacked Clippers52c192.31$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$92.31742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.7wins-0.11per pick54cpaid-16.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Pistons46c183.54$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$85.24,87848%2,341 W · 2,537 L+61.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3078…0389backed Pistons50c180.88$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$90.012,90238.4%1,113 W · 1,789 L-51.9wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa00f…8e56backed Pistons23c177.67$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40.0663745.8%292 W · 345 L+4.6wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-14.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3a09…f9f7backed Clippers49c164.04$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$83.91,29448.1%623 W · 671 L+0.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9fbd…3d15backed Clippers47c159.93$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$84.7676247.1%359 W · 403 L+2.4wins0.00per pick47cpaid+1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9c76…c926backed Clippers47c125$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$65.752,65749.6%1,319 W · 1,338 L+42.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf2c2…4de7backed Clippers51c119.23$61 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58.4249142.6%209 W · 282 L+12.1wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x1787…c311backed Pistons48c110$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.31,44458.1%839 W · 605 L+13.5wins+0.01per pick57cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4790…2dd7backed Clippers47c106.38$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.3814150.4%71 W · 70 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3e47…a7abbacked Pistons49c102.04$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5049852.4%261 W · 237 L-0.3wins0.00per pick52cpaid-0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc65c…6bc7backed Pistons53c100$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$531747.1%8 W · 9 L-1.8wins-0.11per pick58cpaid-22.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x0915…d08abacked Pistons54c100$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$545856.9%33 W · 25 L+2.6wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 13 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.